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simcole posted:I loved my 9.99 special no frills mechanical, but she keeps complaining about it. A $9.99 mechanical keyboard? where?
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Get a dell keyboard: They're cheap and durable, no macros..sorry. e: oh wait...you don't want that, sorry. fishbacon fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Feb 2, 2010 |
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Feb 2, 2010 00:02
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Can we discuss pointers/mice in this thread or is there a separate mouse thread?
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Feb 2, 2010 02:30
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There was a mouse thread a while back. That'd probably be a better place to start as there was quite a bit of good discussion. Tada, here it is: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3222963
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Feb 2, 2010 02:56
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simcole posted:Thanks for that. I edited my post to say preferably non-wave but the wife wants a wave design. We'll look at our options and decide. I loved my 9.99 special no frills mechanical, but she keeps complaining about it. Although I've just got myself a Filco, I still have 2 of those keyboards lying about, 1 at work and 1 at home. They are very comfortable to use, and the curve is really easy to adapt to and you might just learn to like it. For the cost of it, it's worth a punt.
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Feb 2, 2010 10:45
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For the ergo folk, which is a better everyday office semi-ergo keyboard: The Microsoft Curve:  ...or the Logitech Wave? 
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Feb 2, 2010 15:31
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I've used the Curve quite a bit at my office and really like it. I've tried many keyboards and it still holds up as one of my favorites. The Logitech board seemed really, really mushy when I tried it out in the store, but that was a 30 second test.
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Feb 2, 2010 16:06
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Twiin posted:For the ergo folk, which is a better everyday office semi-ergo keyboard: I have only ever used a Curve (didn't like it) but from those two shots they look like nearly the same board..
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Feb 2, 2010 17:03
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Twiin posted:For the ergo folk, which is a better everyday office semi-ergo keyboard: I have the curve and my roommate has the wave. The wave is way better. Like leagues above the curve. The curve is pretty good, but mostly because it's cheap. The wave feels better, but really shines with the rubberized wrist area which is extremely comfortable. The curve is kinda wonky and definitely feels cheaper, but it is a drat nice price. Edit: The wave is just a little bit mushier, but is still clicky. It has noticeably more cube-ish keys. The curve might mess you up because of the weirdly shaped G, H, B and N keys, although it doesn't bother me. Mike the TV fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Feb 2, 2010 |
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Feb 2, 2010 17:10
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I had, loved, and used the wave for almost eight months until the palm area of my left hand started hurting from the uneven lifted palm rest they built into the keyboard. I did a lot of WASD gaming on it so that was a key factor in bringing on the pain. It's to the point now I cannot even use the keyboard so I switched to a Logitech Dinovo which has an even palm rest. The pain is now gone, but I miss the key feel of the Wave.
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Feb 2, 2010 17:31
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Mike the TV posted:I have the curve and my roommate has the wave. The wave is way better. Like leagues above the curve. The curve is pretty good, but mostly because it's cheap. The wave feels better, but really shines with the rubberized wrist area which is extremely comfortable.
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Feb 2, 2010 17:47
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Just ordered a tenkeyless filco with cherry browns. Anxiously awaiting arrival.
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Feb 2, 2010 19:37
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After getting my tenkeyless filco with cherry browns last week, I went nuts and ordered a second, this time with blues. This wound up being a very expensive thread for me to read. On the up side, the new keyboard does actually seem to help my RSI.
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Feb 2, 2010 21:33
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powderific posted:After getting my tenkeyless filco with cherry browns last week, I went nuts and ordered a second, this time with blues. This wound up being a very expensive thread for me to read. On the up side, the new keyboard does actually seem to help my RSI. Told you! And yeah, pricey but worth it.
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Feb 3, 2010 00:42
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powderific posted:After getting my tenkeyless filco with cherry browns last week, I went nuts and ordered a second, this time with blues. This wound up being a very expensive thread for me to read. On the up side, the new keyboard does actually seem to help my RSI. What's the difference. Does the click make them harder or easier to press? I might end up doing the same thing :O
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Randuin posted:What's the difference. Does the click make them harder or easier to press? I might end up doing the same thing :O The main difference is you don't have to hammer the key against the bottom and squash a rubber membrane in order to get them to activate. It activates before you hit the bottom. That extra effort at the end is more taxing than you might think.
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Randuin posted:What's the difference. Does the click make them harder or easier to press? I might end up doing the same thing :O EDIT: Just realized that you meant the difference between browns and blues! The blues are actually a little harder to press, but are otherwise very similar to the browns. Some people think that the audible click gives you a better idea of when the key activates, but I think it's mostly just a fun sound. I'll post my experiences as soon as I get the second one. The difference is twofold for me: first, the keys are very easy to press, some of the lightest keypresses I've encountered; second, and probably most important, because the keys are designed to actuate halfway through their travel, you don't press the keys till they bottom out. The click or tactile bump gives you a cue for when you can let up on it. As you get used to it you wind up not just pressing the keys much more softly, but also avoiding the shock of hitting the bottom of the keyboard. That change in typing style is huge. The tenkey-less have a little bit of an extra advantage because you don't have to move your hand as far for the mouse. I still get a bit of RSI pain depending on the day, but it does seem to help. And I just really enjoy typing on them. They feel pretty different from normal keyboards. I've actually been carrying mine to and from work with me, which is a level of nerdiness I'd never imagined. powderific fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Feb 3, 2010 |
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Feb 3, 2010 16:09
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powderific posted:The difference is twofold for me: first, the keys are very easy to press, some of the lightest keypresses I've encountered; second, and probably most important, because the keys are designed to actuate halfway through their travel, you don't press the keys till they bottom out. The click or tactile bump gives you a cue for when you can let up on it. As you get used to it you wind up not just pressing the keys much more softly, but also avoiding the shock of hitting the bottom of the keyboard. That change in typing style is huge. The tenkey-less have a little bit of an extra advantage because you don't have to move your hand as far for the mouse. I hate to throw fuel on the money wasting fire... but I think cherry brown -> Topre variable weight was a bigger upgrade in wrist comfort than membrane -> cherry brown.
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Feb 3, 2010 16:17
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headcase posted:The main difference is you don't have to hammer the key against the bottom and squash a rubber membrane in order to get them to activate. It activates before you hit the bottom. That extra effort at the end is more taxing than you might think. You don't have to hammer the Cherry Browns to get them to activate--their activation point is at like 1/3rd of the total travel. They just don't have a click like the Blues
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Feb 3, 2010 16:48
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TheQat posted:You don't have to hammer the Cherry Browns to get them to activate--their activation point is at like 1/3rd of the total travel. They just don't have a click like the Blues Isn't that exactly what I said?
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headcase posted:Isn't that exactly what I said? No, you said that the difference between the blues and the browns is that you don't have to hammer the key against the bottom and squash a rubber membrane in order to get them to activate.
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Feb 3, 2010 17:53
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Oh snap, I just realized that Raduin was talking about the difference between browns and blues and had already ordered a board with browns. I was talking about the difference between mechanical and membrane, and I think headcase thought the same thing. The difference between brown and blue is very subtle other than the audible click, from what I understand. As for the Torpes, I want to pick one up some day, but I won't be able to justify the expense for a while. I especially love the happy hacking style topre's, btu then you don't get the variable key weights. powderific fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Feb 3, 2010 |
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Feb 3, 2010 18:13
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Twiin posted:No, you said that the difference between the blues and the browns is that you don't have to hammer the key against the bottom and squash a rubber membrane in order to get them to activate. Ah, my bad. I thought he was talking about his eagerly awaited delivery of the cherry brown. I totally misread his post.
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Feb 3, 2010 18:33
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Haha, sorry for the confusion there. But anyway, are the topres that amazing? The money is less of an issue for me, but the lack of certain keys (Especially arrows) may be a deal sealer.
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Feb 3, 2010 18:39
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Randuin posted:Haha, sorry for the confusion there. But anyway, are the topres that amazing? The money is less of an issue for me, but the lack of certain keys (Especially arrows) may be a deal sealer. Some of us think so. But it's a lot to spend sight unseen. If you don't mind the cost, the Realforce Topres are the most like a normal keyboard layout. The HHKB is cool as hell, but I'll be the first to admit it's not for everyone.
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Feb 3, 2010 18:46
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Randuin posted:Haha, sorry for the confusion there. But anyway, are the topres that amazing? The money is less of an issue for me, but the lack of certain keys (Especially arrows) may be a deal sealer. 
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Feb 3, 2010 19:28
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Jesus. Just got my Filco Majestouch with the Cherry Browns, and man, I never thought that keyboards could have this kind of build quality. I'm sure my roommates are going to kill me—this thing's a little bit noisier than my last keyboard—but goddamn is it worth it. I don't think I'll ever be able to type on anything else. Plus it has a red ESC key  Edit: pics!  
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Feb 3, 2010 20:33
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Are the LEDs as bright as the sun like they look on their website?
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Feb 3, 2010 20:42
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Mike the TV posted:Are the LEDs as bright as the sun like they look on their website?
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Feb 3, 2010 20:47
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I put a spare USB flash drive over my LEDs. Sort of mars the beauty of the keyboard but oh well. The LEDs are really distracting out of the corner of your eye.
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Feb 3, 2010 21:47
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Fedex just dropped off the filco. I'm absolutely in love. I've tried the cherry blacks on a Steelseries 7G and this just blows it out of the water in terms of my preference. I can't tell if I would like the click from the blue better but I definitely prefer the lighter force required to depress the keys. Everything just feels like they are of a better build quality. Zero regrets here.
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Feb 3, 2010 21:51
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It's really heartwarming to see all these testimonials from people I assume used to be membrane users crossing over. I still haven't pulled the trigger on the HHKB yet, kind of hoping the change from cherry blue > topre is just as eye-opening.
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Feb 3, 2010 21:53
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TheQat posted:I put a spare USB flash drive over my LEDs. Sort of mars the beauty of the keyboard but oh well. The LEDs are really distracting out of the corner of your eye. Wouldn't two layers of black electrical tape cover it right up? Love the filco design by the way, really wish I could get one but I am both short for cash and can't seem to find a version with Nordic keys (åøæ that poo poo)
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Feb 3, 2010 23:26
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Oh crap, I want a Filco Tenkeyless with Cherry Browns. Blue LEDs are brighter than any other color LED. CapsLock will light up my entire computer room. Eh, electrical tape should fix it.
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Has anybody opened one up to see how easy it would be to either add a resistor or outright replace the LEDs? Should be trivial if they're not surface mount. edit: Yep 
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Feb 4, 2010 01:25
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Twiin posted:For the ergo folk, which is a better everyday office semi-ergo keyboard: A little funkier than those, but I really like my MS Natural Ergonomic 4000. Maybe you already looked into it though. It's only $23.49 for the OEM version. It didn't take long to get accustomed. I wasn't so sure about the attachable riser at first but it turned out to be pretty comfortable compared to having it flat. 
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Feb 4, 2010 02:04
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I have that keyboard and the curve. Though I like it quite a bit, I find that it takes more effort to press the keys that on the regular curve, so I wind up switching between the two when one starts to get painful. It's definitely best with the riser--without, I think I'd actually prefer the standard curve.
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Feb 4, 2010 03:10
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stuart posted:A little funkier than those, but I really like my MS Natural Ergonomic 4000. Maybe you already looked into it though. It's only $23.49 for the OEM version. It didn't take long to get accustomed. I wasn't so sure about the attachable riser at first but it turned out to be pretty comfortable compared to having it flat. Yeah, I've owned one, but it's a bit too weird for an office drop-in replacement for people who aren't used to it.
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Feb 4, 2010 03:55
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Twiin posted:Yeah, I've owned one, but it's a bit too weird for an office drop-in replacement for people who aren't used to it. Make them get used to it. They'll thank you later. I've seen it happen several times.
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I just upgraded from a POS membrane hipro keyboard to a Filco Majestouch w/ Cherry Browns and it is the most amazing thing I have ever typed on. Hopefully it should last a bit longer than the approx 1 year life expectancy my membrane based board have had to this point.
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