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ASSTASTIC posted:Anyone used the Harbor Freight HPLV guns before? Any opinions? My next door neighbor owns a auto body repair shop. He tells me that some of his guys use cheap guns like this or the cheap Sharpe guns and other guys use expensive guns. http://www.autobodytoolmart.com/sharpe-finex-fx3000-hvlp-paint-gun-p-14969.aspx The difference is that the cheap guns have to be thrown out because they wear out after frequent use. I did my caddy with the "DeVILBISS FinishLine 3" and it came out fine.
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daslog posted:My next door neighbor owns a auto body repair shop. He tells me that some of his guys use cheap guns like this or the cheap Sharpe guns and other guys use expensive guns. Please educate the uneducated. How does a paint gun wear out? Does it clog? Or a spring/trigger break? It just seems like a simple, but precise piece of equipment, and I would assume with some TLC, you would be able to get a good amount of mileage out of one.
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The O-rings inside of them need to be replaced every so often. There isn't much else to wear out. I suppose some people don't know how to replace O-rings, and throw them out.
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 New toy inside! New toy inside! Click here for the full 800x600 image.  Click here for the full 600x800 image. Just in time for my locker/fuse box wiring. Watch, I'll have the drat thing lost in a few days... 
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BigKOfJustice posted:
Looks like a nice tool, I wish I could justify spending $117.82 I'd use that infrequently.
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Apr 29, 2010 17:37
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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Automotive Insanity > Crimp Tools!
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dv6speed posted:The O-rings inside of them need to be replaced every so often. There isn't much else to wear out. I suppose some people don't know how to replace O-rings, and throw them out. Good to know. I would assume that if I got a HF spray gun, my HF huge o-ring kit would then help replace said o-rings. And if I do gently caress up the gun in the cleaning process, then Ill go ahead and toss it. No biggie.
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One Day Fish Sale posted:The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Automotive Insanity > Crimp Tools! Well this IS the tools thread, and it's kinda insane for a hobbyist to spend that much on one tool...
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It's not just o-rings that wear out in a paint gun. The fluid adjusters, internal regulator, and tip all deteriorate over time in any gun; they just do it extremely fast in the cheap guns and don't make economical sense to replace. If you're just going to paint something once or even only every few months, stick with a cheap gun. If you plan on painting more than a half dozen times a year, pick up a nice paint gun. I've used a cheap parts store gun and a high end gun side by side and there isn't enough of a difference in features or paint application quality to justify the price difference for a hobbyist painter.
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ab0z posted:Well this IS the tools thread, and it's kinda insane for a hobbyist to spend that much on one tool... After throwing out 2-3 other crimpers, it'll pay for itself. I have to do a few harnesses for diesel conversions, and spending $200 on crimpers [I ordered a weatherpak kit from another vendor], is a heck of a lot cheaper then buying OEM harnesses and getting a shop to do up costume wiring for you. Heck I've seen shops charge $100-250 for $7 worth of cable and connectors for a diesel IP remote mount kit. $100 isn't a lot for a tool you use often. Big K of Justice fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Apr 29, 2010 |
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Trust me I meant insane in a good way  I'm the last person you have to justify good tools to. For my usage (once in a blue moon for one connection) some regular $5 crimping pliers are all I need. For your usage (building legitimate hardcore off road vehicles) a good tool is an INVESTMENT.
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ab0z posted:Trust me I meant insane in a good way I totally agree, its overkill for most folks, and I'm sure getting an el cheapo ratcheting crimper will be good enough in most cases. Once I'm done with the wire harness work I'll probably start using it to wire up a few stepper motors to a Proxxon micro mill so I can start CNC'ing small parts. But that won't be until late summer at the earliest. Got to sell some crap first to make room.
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Oh yea, I almost forgot: RE Weatherpack connectors. Our engineering fee really isn't terribly high for those type of die sets. This isnt a quote by any means but I want to say for a DCT4 die it was like $300 which includes one die set then normal retail price after that. If the two of you were interested in them split them and then you could just swap diesets and have one to do the weather pack connectors. I plan on doing some more cheap wire and terminal testing, I am very curious to see how they perform. If I have enough terminals Ill compare poo poo wire between the DCT4-102 and the HF as well. AnomalousBoners fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Apr 29, 2010 |
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Goddam you bastards, and your buying tools, and your projects. I bought a fuckin Corolla, it never breaks, and even if it did, its still under warranty, so even if I wanted to say, pop the hood and start ripping out wires, or shoot an AK 47 at the engine while its at wide open throttle with no oil or coolant, I'd still have nothing to fix. I wish I was still driving my old Protege, so I could at least do a brake job every couple months.
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If it aint broke, time to upgrade.
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I've made a couple posts in the metal working thread in DIY that may be of interest to some AI guys: Basic electricity for welders. Everything you need to know to get started with Air-carbon-arc Cutting & Gouging
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http://www.harborfreight.com What the gently caress is this poo poo? Its a website that doesn't look horrible!
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ASSTASTIC posted:http://www.harborfreight.com The first step in HF's inevitable decline.
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ASSTASTIC posted:http://www.harborfreight.com http://www.harborfreight.com/new-items/hydraulic-wire-crimping-tool-66150.html New crimper on there. Good thing I don't do car audio installs for a living anymore, otherwise I'd be $70 poorer.
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ASSTASTIC posted:http://www.harborfreight.com
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Drunk Pledge Driver posted:http://www.harborfreight.com/new-items/hydraulic-wire-crimping-tool-66150.html These can pretty routinely be found for $50 and I hear ya. I never crimp wire of this gauge and I want one just cause holy poo poo...hydraulic wire crimper for $50-15%?
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Drunk Pledge Driver posted:http://www.harborfreight.com/new-items/hydraulic-wire-crimping-tool-66150.html Its not new, its been on there for a year or so. We have one, it works awesome for crimping battery lugs.
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ASSTASTIC posted:http://www.harborfreight.com harborfreight.com and asstastic, up till now would have been closely associated in my mind. I don't know if I can handle this sort of change.
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I can only hope they used cheap Chinese prison children website labor to build that just like they do the tools. I don't not want to pay more for my crappy wrenches that are not quite the right size.
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Elephanthead posted:I can only hope they used cheap Chinese prison children website labor to build that just like they do the tools. I don't not want to pay more for my crappy wrenches that are not quite the right size. By the way it throws out 404's; I think they did.  Also for non-poo poo HF stuff; their metal hose clamps are pretty good for sealing fuel lines. They look like locking clamps, but with rounded pads. If you need something cheap to route wires into trim their clearance plastic trim tools do the job. Definitely a disposable item, but if you need it cheap, the set's less than $3.
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That reminds me their worm clamps are absolutely poo poo. Worm clamps are something I will only buy american from. Chinese t-bolts and v-bands are fine but worm clamps from anywhere but here strip out way before they should.
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Commodore 64 posted:By the way it throws out 404's; I think they did. Yea, the site is completely nonfunctional. I've had really bad luck with the old-fashioned HF hose clamps larger than like 2 inches. The "teeth" on the band tend to shear and bend with moderate tightening. edit: exactly what the above poster described. eddiewalker fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Apr 30, 2010 |
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I'm about to buy my first air compressor and am looking for some opinions/advice. It's a Craftsman 25 gal compressor. 2 cylinder, oil lubricated, 150 max psi, SCFM Delivery At 40 psi: 7.4 SCFM, SCFM Delivery At 90 psi: 5.8 SCFM, and it's 120V. I can get it from my local Sears for $387 after tax ($435 if I buy the 2-year extended warranty). I want it so I can use an impact gun and air ratchet. My house isn't set up for 240V which is why I have been looking at 120V compressors. Another deciding factor is that I can't really afford more than $500. What do you guys think? Am I about to make a huge mistake? 
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Who buys worm clamps anyway, I always get the rolled-edge ones with the teeth molded in. Worth twice the price if on something that has high temperature variances or less than stellar hose or nipple. THese type: http://www.johsoncn.com/ideal_hose_clamp.htm
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Baby Hitler posted:Who buys worm clamps anyway, I always get the rolled-edge ones with the teeth molded in. Worth twice the price if on something that has high temperature variances or less than stellar hose or nipple. I've never seen them before. Anywhere where I need a clamp large enough I replace them with t-bolt clamps cause they can take a ton of band tension and Ive never had one strip or break and the nylon insert means they're less likely to back out. For small hose clamps I should keep an eye out for those too. I tested some wire today, left the number in my car but suffice it to say I wont be using that wire or terminals ever again.
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Ericadia posted:I'm about to buy my first air compressor and am looking for some opinions/advice. It's a Craftsman 25 gal compressor. 2 cylinder, oil lubricated, 150 max psi, SCFM Delivery At 40 psi: 7.4 SCFM, SCFM Delivery At 90 psi: 5.8 SCFM, and it's 120V. Do a search in this thread for compressors; we've been over them a bunch. Suffice it to say that that compressor is rather poor.
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Baby Hitler posted:Who buys worm clamps anyway, I always get the rolled-edge ones with the teeth molded in. Worth twice the price if on something that has high temperature variances or less than stellar hose or nipple. Those ones are awesome, I switched to them when I redid my cooling system a few months back.
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I've seen a lot of black chrome tool sets in stores lately and I'm just wondering what the appeal is? Is it just an aesthetics thing or are they tougher or what? I can easily see some jackass buying them from the store assuming they're impacts and taking out an eye or more importantly, chipping paint from flying tool steel.
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zifflol posted:I've seen a lot of black chrome tool sets in stores lately and I'm just wondering what the appeal is? Is it just an aesthetics thing or are they tougher or what? I can easily see some jackass buying them from the store assuming they're impacts and taking out an eye or more importantly, chipping paint from flying tool steel. Have you ever actually broken a non-impact socket when using it as an impact socket? They don't exactly detonate when they break.
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Fair enough, I've never actually seen one go. I based that entirely off of all the warnings they gave us in school about it.
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zifflol posted:Fair enough, I've never actually seen one go. I based that entirely off of all the warnings they gave us in school about it. Yeah, they just crack down the side and make a rather unfulfilling *snap* sound.
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frozenphil posted:Yeah, they just crack down the side and make a rather unfulfilling *snap* sound. You've been lucky so far. I had a Harbor Freight one unwind like a goddamned concertina wire. I'm just glad my hand wasn't on it.
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Ericadia posted:My house isn't set up for 240V which is why I have been looking at 120V compressors. Another deciding factor is that I can't really afford more than $500. Look on craigslist for a while. Might have to sacrifice a little "performance" as most of the 120 units suck balls, but you can get an ok compressor for less than 200 bucks. Those things are throwaway, a lot of people unload them after a project. Set up an RSS with compressor/er and keep cash in hand so you can snatch up a good deal from a bonehead. I would investigate making your garage 240v with at least a 40 amp service. Big enough for all but the very large compressors and a good size welder. I did 240V@ 65A and it was about 300 bucks for a 65 foot run. Conduit, 6awg and a sub with all the breakers. Alternate if you rent, put it in the laundry room and hope the wife doesn't bitch. Or a big effin extension cord.
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PeaceFrog posted:Look on craigslist for a while. Might have to sacrifice a little "performance" as most of the 120 units suck balls, but you can get an ok compressor for less than 200 bucks. Those things are throwaway, a lot of people unload them after a project. Nthing the 240v suggestion. I've got a 5HP 80 gallon 240v compressor in my garage, and it can almost keep up with a die-grinder. Running an impact or air ratchet is simple. Hell, I don't even turn it on most of the time, just use the air stored in the tank. I'll be running 3/4" copper air lines around the garage this summer, which will be  I'll also be mounting my HF 50' air hose reel between the doors. sharkytm fucked around with this message at 23:11 on May 1, 2010 |
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PeaceFrog posted:Look on craigslist for a while. Might have to sacrifice a little "performance" as most of the 120 units suck balls, but you can get an ok compressor for less than 200 bucks. Those things are throwaway, a lot of people unload them after a project. Trust me I've had my phone set up to alert me whenever the words "air compressor" are used in craigslist ads in my areas. So far mostly pancake compressors. All the verticals have looked like poo poo or have been way too expensive. I guess I am just starting to get discouraged and am compromising. After ctrl+fing through about 40 pages of this thread though, I am convinced that I will be unhappy with anything below 60 gallons (thanks sharkytm, catbus, oxbrain and others for all the advice given in this thread). And so, here's my plan: I'm going to bunker down and save my money until the right compressor shows up. In the mean time I am going to work on getting 240v to my garage (don't think housemates would appreciate me rewiring the hot tub breaker for my air compressor). Huge mistake averted this time, thanks guys.
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