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Ika
Dec 30, 2004
Pure insanity

LooseChanj posted:

I think I'm the only person that liked Equal Rites. Wyrd Sisters was good, but Lords and Ladies is one of my least favorite discworlds.

Naw, equal rites is also one of the ones I reread most, along with jingo and fifth elephant.

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The Relentless
Sep 27, 2002

ANTI KITTY-PORN TASK-FORCE - "It's Hell-Bag eatin' time! Rowwwwrrrr!!!"

Iacen posted:

For a long time I avoided the books about the witches, mostly because I really didn't like Equal Rites. Not at all.
But After having read both Wyrd Sisters, Witches Abroad and Lords And Ladies... I must admit it was a bad decision. They are hilarious and I had to stuff my fist into my mouth in order not to burst out laughing at the train, which would probably have earned me many a weird glance.
Now, on to Maskerade!

If you don't absolutely love Nanny ogg yet, you will by the end of Maskerade. So far, it is my favorite Nanny Ogg story.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
God I love the Coach bit in that book so much.

Tornhelm
Jul 26, 2008

The Relentless posted:

If you don't absolutely love Nanny ogg yet, you will by the end of Maskerade. So far, it is my favorite Nanny Ogg story.

Is that the one with banana dakerys?

Vengeance of Pandas
Sep 8, 2008

THE TERRIBLE POST WENT THATAWAY!
That was Witches Abroad, Maskerade has The Joye of Snackes by a Lancre Witch and the Phantom of The Opera.

Bluemillion
Aug 18, 2008

I got your dispensers
right here

DontMockMySmock posted:

Nilbop posted:

Nilbop posted:

The answer, as it turns out, is "like a motherfucker."

No, you're thinking of one of many stories by Robert Heinlein. When Vimes goes back in time, he takes care not to visit his mother.

Posters are gonna look back at this post in twenty years and say "This was the root of modern posting, right here. DontMockMySmock is to today's posting styles what Led Zeppelin was to Heavy Metal."

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
SKY Going Postal is getting closer and closer! I'm frigging pumped. I seriously hope they do The Truth Next.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


SeanBeansShako posted:

SKY Going Postal is getting closer and closer! I'm frigging pumped. I seriously hope they do The Truth Next.

What day is Going Postal set to be on? But I agree, The Truth would be excellent as a film, it's a nice stand alone effectively and doesn't need any set up to get into it, plus Otto would be great.

Iacen
Mar 19, 2009

Si vis pacem, para bellum



Is there an way for non-Brits to see it? I'm not sure I can wait till the DVD release.

ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!
Oven Wrangler
My roommates have been watching Dead Like Me and it makes me wanna reread the Death books.

LORD, WHAT CAN THE HARVEST HOPE FOR, IF NOT THE CARE OF THE REAPER MAN? :unsmith:

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE
If Reaper Man didn't have that awful living supermarket parasite stuff, I think it'd be one of my favourite Discworld books. All of the Bill Door bits are fantastic.

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



I'll be the voice of dissent and say I actually liked the supermarket parasite bit, though less for its biting social commentary and more for the wizards running around doing wacky poo poo and saying, "Yo!" a lot.

Nilbop
Jun 5, 2004

Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...
The Faculty Oxbridging it up and doing ludicrous iniation-like poo poo is my favourite part of their appearances.

"Aha! The megapode!"

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

Nilbop posted:

The Faculty Oxbridging it up and doing ludicrous iniation-like poo poo is my favourite part of their appearances.

"Aha! The megapode!"

Those bits in the latest book convinced me Ponder Stibbons is finally going to snap one day and end up like the Bursar.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

SeanBeansShako posted:

Those bits in the latest book convinced me Ponder Stibbons is finally going to snap one day and end up like the Bursar.

The Bursar was conspicuously absent from the last book...though I have a more somber suspicion about why that is. :(

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

Mister Roboto posted:

The Bursar was conspicuously absent from the last book...though I have a more somber suspicion about why that is. :(

Oh god, I was hoping he just retired and was sent to a Wizards version of an old folks home :(.

Also, I had to read up on the Wizard from Genua, apparently he is gay. Never knew.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

SeanBeansShako posted:

Oh god, I was hoping he just retired and was sent to a Wizards version of an old folks home :(.

Well, actually, I meant something MORE depressing: It may be too painful for Pratchett to write the Bursar now...

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

Mister Roboto posted:

Well, actually, I meant something MORE depressing: It may be too painful for Pratchett to write the Bursar now...

Oh god I am a complete unsensitive idiot just getting that.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




SeanBeansShako posted:

Those bits in the latest book convinced me Ponder Stibbons is finally going to snap one day and end up like the Bursar.

Naw. The ending where he and the Archchancellor go and "assist" their fellow wizards in dealing with their problems probably keeps him reasonably sane. I know I'd think it's fun as hell and a great vacation.

Besides, I think the Archchancellor now realizes how important Ponder is, even if he's not really happy about it so will cut him a bit more slack.

Vengeance of Pandas
Sep 8, 2008

THE TERRIBLE POST WENT THATAWAY!
That and the fact that everyone kept dumping jobs on him means he more or less runs the University through having a majority vote on the council, it gives him more options than the Bursar had.

Iacen
Mar 19, 2009

Si vis pacem, para bellum



If you haven't seen it, Sky One has an interview with Pratchett:
http://sky1.sky.com/going-postal-sky1-hd-meets-terry-pratchett

(With the full interview available as an mp3)

Edit: Hoo boy! They have really updated since I last checked. An extended trailer, a behind the scenes. Not bad!

This makes me wish for a The Truth movie, if only to see Mr Tulip's speech impediment in real life.

Iacen fucked around with this message at 09:09 on May 10, 2010

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
I caught a glimpse of Otto in the interview and he looks kind of like a generic Vampire with an Iconograph. No silly Tux like waistcoat strewn with photographic equipment or his prince nez sunglasses.

A shame.

GloomMouse
Mar 6, 2007

Iacen posted:

For a long time I avoided the books about the witches, mostly because I really didn't like Equal Rites. Not at all.
But After having read both Wyrd Sisters, Witches Abroad and Lords And Ladies... I must admit it was a bad decision. They are hilarious and I had to stuff my fist into my mouth in order not to burst out laughing at the train, which would probably have earned me many a weird glance.
Now, on to Maskerade!

If you like the witches, read the Tiffany Aching books. Don't be scared off by the Young Adult label, they're great. The first one is the most YA-ish imo.

Nerdmann
Sep 21, 2007

GloomMouse posted:

If you like the witches, read the Tiffany Aching books. Don't be scared off by the Young Adult label, they're great. The first one is the most YA-ish imo.

I just finished rereading Hat Full of Sky and have read Wintersmith several times and I have to agree...they are great books and I really really don't think the YA thing is even a true label. Gotta love the Mac Nac Feegles and of course, my favorite characters, the witches (especially Granny Weatherwax) get plenty of page time.

And I am sorry if I missed the answer to this, but is there any way for US fans to see the movies?

TheVertigoOfBliss
Jan 29, 2007
Ive just finished rereading Jingo and im not really sure i get the love for it in this thread. The whole 'chase' part through the middle of the novel seems really drawn out and unnecesary, the Nobby cross dressing plot is irritating.

Feet of Clay which i reread previous to Jingo seems to have a much neater narrative and the whole 'who-dunnit' aspect is better implemented rather than in Jingo where it starts off with a bit of murder mystery then gets swept under the carpet for 200 pages before being quickly wrapped up at the end.

Onto 5th elephant now :)

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Nerdmann posted:

And I am sorry if I missed the answer to this, but is there any way for US fans to see the movies?

Netflix has Colour of Magic and Hogsfather.


I'll chime in with another Tiffany Aching recommendation, any girl who uses her brother as bait and then whacks the monster with a frying pan is ok by me. And any story where a 9-year old girl with a frying pan rescues a 12-year old prince with a sword is going right on my all-time favorites list.

GloomMouse
Mar 6, 2007

Nerdmann posted:

I just finished rereading Hat Full of Sky and have read Wintersmith several times and I have to agree...they are great books and I really really don't think the YA thing is even a true label.

I know several people who think that "Young Adult" stands for "Children's Book with Slightly Longer Words" or "Babby's First Novel." They're kind of shocked when I remind them that The Hobbit and Fahrenheit 451 are included in the YA definition. Apparently it spans the ages of 10-21, and encompasses everything from Twilight and Gossip Girls, to Alice in Wonderland and The Graveyard Book. Throw in The Catcher in the Rye and Lord of the Flies, and you have a big ol' question mark over what YA really means when you pick up a book.

ThaGhettoJew
Jul 4, 2003

The world is a ghetto
If we're talking YA and Pterry, do not pass up Nation. It's a standalone world and maybe aimed a little older than Tiffany Aching, but it's smart and morally complex. Well worth it.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




ThaGhettoJew posted:

If we're talking YA and Pterry, do not pass up Nation. It's a standalone world and maybe aimed a little older than Tiffany Aching, but it's smart and morally complex. Well worth it.

I'd forgotten about that one. My local bookstores are Borders right now, and they don't have it with the rest of his stuff, which is costing them a sale.

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



ThaGhettoJew posted:

If we're talking YA and Pterry, do not pass up Nation. It's a standalone world and maybe aimed a little older than Tiffany Aching, but it's smart and morally complex. Well worth it.

I liked Nation, although I thought it was trying too hard in a lot of places. A lot of the jokes are just old retreads and the main plot hook is so horribly, horribly obvious. ("Did you see that thing? I'm not going to tell you what that thing is but did you see that thing???")

On the other hand, it was very well written and really loving dark in places for a Terry Pratchett book. It was also refreshing to see an island castaway story where the central white character is routinely inept at actually living on the island and has to depend heavily on the native character to survive. It's a nice reversal after having read Robinson Crusoe.

ThaGhettoJew
Jul 4, 2003

The world is a ghetto

Vermain posted:

I liked Nation, although I thought it was trying too hard in a lot of places. A lot of the jokes are just old retreads and the main plot hook is so horribly, horribly obvious. ("Did you see that thing? I'm not going to tell you what that thing is but did you see that thing???")

On the other hand, it was very well written and really loving dark in places for a Terry Pratchett book. It was also refreshing to see an island castaway story where the central white character is routinely inept at actually living on the island and has to depend heavily on the native character to survive. It's a nice reversal after having read Robinson Crusoe.

I agree with all of that. It is admittedly a bit heavy-handed with some of the jokes and themes, but I give it some slack for being middle-schoolishly skewed. It still manages some surprising twists on the genre, like the very dark beginning and a somewhat unexpected ending/coda.

Anti-colonial, anti-religiosity (mostly), pro-science, pro-girl-power (mostly), lots of good stuff. It strikes me as quintessentially British in a lot of ways.

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

TheVertigoOfBliss posted:

Ive just finished rereading Jingo and im not really sure i get the love for it in this thread. The whole 'chase' part through the middle of the novel seems really drawn out and unnecesary, the Nobby cross dressing plot is irritating.

Feet of Clay which i reread previous to Jingo seems to have a much neater narrative and the whole 'who-dunnit' aspect is better implemented rather than in Jingo where it starts off with a bit of murder mystery then gets swept under the carpet for 200 pages before being quickly wrapped up at the end.

Onto 5th elephant now :)

I pretty much agree with this, but with the proviso that Jingo has some genuinely great bits (the D'regs, the only good implementation of the Dis-organiser) which redeems it somewhat.

Nation is excellent, everyone in this thread should read it.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
Jingo has Vimes Butler going psycho sergeant and Detritus gets his computer fan helmet so I think it is awesome still.

Plus Vimes showing us that he doesn't understand nautical science and sailing but he doesn't give a drat so he can keep up the chase.

Nation sounds pretty awesome and Terry pretty much showing he isn't just that silly fantasy stories guy once more. I will pick it up at some point.

And for some reason, the WHSmith in Saint Austel a town near my own doesn't seem to stock any Discworld Paperbacks anymore. The hell?

Ika
Dec 30, 2004
Pure insanity

Detritus gets the helmet alot earlier (I think men at arms)

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

Ika posted:

Detritus gets the helmet alot earlier (I think men at arms)

Oh yeah, one of the first Dwarf (non Carrot Dwarf Dwarf) made it for him after he saved his life :(.

Kris Longknife
Jan 30, 2010

SeanBeansShako posted:

Jingo has Vimes Butler going psycho sergeant and Detritus gets his computer fan helmet so I think it is awesome still.

Plus Vimes showing us that he doesn't understand nautical science and sailing but he doesn't give a drat so he can keep up the chase.

Nation sounds pretty awesome and Terry pretty much showing he isn't just that silly fantasy stories guy once more. I will pick it up at some point.

And for some reason, the WHSmith in Saint Austel a town near my own doesn't seem to stock any Discworld Paperbacks anymore. The hell?


Jingo was the one where is air conditioned helmet failed becasue Klatch was so freaking hot.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
That dwarf was Cuddy, I believe

Jekub
Jul 21, 2006

April, May, June, July and August fool
Speaking of Discworld dwarfs, behold the very awful Cheery Littlebottom comic strip!

http://www.cheerycomic.co.uk/

Thankfully now dead, unfortunately not deleted from ever having existed in the first place.

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

YggiDee posted:

That dwarf was Cuddy, I believe

Cuddy was excellent.

In fact Men at Arms is one of Pratchett's books that's an enduring favourite of mine.

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Nilbop
Jun 5, 2004

Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...
Cuddy's death, and particularly the line "Not Detritus." are the only lines in the series that make me well up.

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