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2nd playthrough stuff "Didn't we already have this weapon?" "Ssh! These things happen the second time around."  Is there a story reason why the Shades have subtitles now? The info screen you got after finishing ending A said that it was "Kaine's story" or something so I figured that the reason you can understand the Shades and hear Tyrann is because it's from her perspective. But then that doesn't entirely make sense because you're still controlling Nier, and you can still hear Tyrann etc. when Kaine is unconscious or such. So I dunno. I wasn't expecting Tyrann to have voiced lines during the game, first one kind of came out of nowhere. I love the new spin the extra scenes with the boss shades etc. have put on the game, but at the same time it feels a little bit too emotionally manipulative. It's like the part in Austin Powers where they have this extended sequence showing the tragic consequences of running over a henchman with a bulldozer, except this time it seems to be in complete seriousness. If the shades are so nice, why are they attacking me  It's like if there was a bonus mode in Gears of War that revealed the snarling menacing aliens were actually cute puppies in alien suits, how could you be so cruel as to defend yourself 
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May 12, 2010 13:57
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Here are some random shots of the DLC costumes, minor spoilers I suppose:       
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May 12, 2010 16:42
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Didn't expect it honestly, but Zero Punctuation did a review. Not too negative and has a few good points. Also, EDGE Magazine gave the game a 6/10. It is worth noting that EDGE actually uses the whole 1 to 10 scale for their scores, so 6/10 isn't a bad score just above average.
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May 12, 2010 18:05
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Brackhar posted:So not to turn this into a Drakengard thread, but I never actually played those games because I heard they were quite sub-par. Should I actually look into finding a copy of them to play through? I like the first Drakengard, but then again I often like unpopular games. The gameplay is simple but simple can be okay too, and I love the wildly discordant music.
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Okay, now I think I've got something but maybe it's just because I've been awake for 48 hours and tired as hell but I think I found something. Please tell me I'm not crazy, because I think I might have found another Nier-Drakengard connection.    Okay, here's some stuff from Drakengard's Ending A that's about the "seal" that that jackass Verdelet puts on Red. Look at all the crazy letters and poo poo that's going on there. Now, turn on Nier and watch the opening demo roll with the crazy "words" that transform into English. Or look at the cover art or some pictures of Black Scrawl. It may just be the lack of sleep talking, but I swear that Verdelet's seal and the Black Scrawl lettering looks nearly identical in places.
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May 13, 2010 01:32
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Veotax posted:Didn't expect it honestly, but Zero Punctuation did a review. Not too negative and has a few good points. I can't believe he actually disliked the Forest of Myth and the music though
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May 13, 2010 01:36
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Hey look, this is a fairly enjoyable action RPG with a decent plot, cool locales, solid combat and likeable characters. A good buy thus far.
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May 13, 2010 12:35
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Veotax posted:Didn't expect it honestly, but Zero Punctuation did a review. Not too negative and has a few good points. My only real gripe there is that he seems unable to detach 'developer' from 'publisher'. This is as much a Square-Enix game as Just Cause 2.
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May 13, 2010 12:47
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Dominic White posted:My only real gripe there is that he seems unable to detach 'developer' from 'publisher'. This is as much a Square-Enix game as Just Cause 2. He's also been calling Silent Hill: Shattered Memories and Red Steel 2 Nintendo games. I can understand no knowing it's developed by Caiva (their name isn't even on the box), but those two are just weird.
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May 13, 2010 12:50
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Veotax posted:He's also been calling Silent Hill: Shattered Memories and Red Steel 2 Nintendo games. Yahtzee doesn't know very much about videogames and produces (often hilarious) comedy skits in the guise of reviews. Keep it under yor 'at guv.
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Policenaut posted:Okay, now I think I've got something but maybe it's just because I've been awake for 48 hours and tired as hell but I think I found something. Please tell me I'm not crazy, because I think I might have found another Nier-Drakengard connection. Nope, you are not insane, they match, so it might be that he could be responsible for black scrawl.
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May 13, 2010 14:17
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I spent like an hour stabbing my way through the DLC then died on the second-last stage completely out of nowhere when nothing before had given me even remote trouble beyond just being time-consuming  I guess I'll go back on my third playthrough (right now I'm in the middle of the second, level 28) in the hopes that having a bit more health will prevent being randomly one-shot out of nowhere. Although, do you even get anything for finishing it? I got the three Fool weapons and the two costume sets already. Goddamn the music was awesome though, I hope there's somewhere to get it outside of the game.
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May 13, 2010 14:19
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Xythar posted:Goddamn the music was awesome though, I hope there's somewhere to get it outside of the game. Perhaps you're referring to some extra music in the DLC, but the OST is available here Not exactly cheap I know, but at least it's available.
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May 13, 2010 14:20
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The DLC has remixes of music from the main game, I don't think it'd be on there.
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May 13, 2010 14:23
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Notinghamington posted:Nope, you are not insane, they match, so it might be that he could be responsible for black scrawl. Aside from a few minor variations, they just look like old Germanic runes. A common inspiration for magical script. As much as it would amuse me to have Verdelet be the reason for pretty much everything that has ever gone wrong in TWO realities, it's probably not the case here. It's just the language of magic used in the setting. Edit: Of course, there's always the question of whether the runes can be decoded/translated at all. Apparently all the runic script and enochian chanting in Bayonetta actually translates back into English, so maybe this is the same? Dominic White fucked around with this message at 14:34 on May 13, 2010 |
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May 13, 2010 14:26
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Xythar posted:The DLC has remixes of music from the main game, I don't think it'd be on there. Well, there are various sites who specialise in ripping such things so I'd imagine it will pop up on the internet in the next few days if you look in the right places.
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May 13, 2010 14:31
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Does the DLC have new trophies?
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May 13, 2010 14:43
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^^^^ Nope. The DLC is way to short. I'm level 46 and annihilated everything easily (on Normal) except the final boss in no time at all. You don't really get any character or story development either. Only get this if you want the remixed music (pretty cool) and character skins (pretty bad). Renoistic fucked around with this message at 20:41 on May 13, 2010 |
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Got ending A last night. The whole last stage was awesome, but it spawned more questions than it answered. Primarily I'm very interested in how The world gets to the state it's in currently in the first place, exactly what the hell project Gestalt and replicants are, and the motivations of Popola and Devola. Having to fight them really came out of left field for me, but looking back there were a few hints about it, I guess. Still, as relatively minor characters they are really interesting to me. Here's to hoping the other endings flesh stuff out for me.
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Does anyone know where I might find machine oil? I've checked most of the shops I have access to and logic would dictate that it would be in the Junk Heap, but after exploring nearly every inch of that dungeon and killing countless robots I've turned up nothing. The answer will probably make me kick myself, but any leads would be appreciated.
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May 14, 2010 17:35
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Chopsticks posted:Does anyone know where I might find machine oil? I've checked most of the shops I have access to and logic would dictate that it would be in the Junk Heap, but after exploring nearly every inch of that dungeon and killing countless robots I've turned up nothing. The answer will probably make me kick myself, but any leads would be appreciated. I found it most commonly on the flying robots, especially when I equipped a weapon/magic that had a high item drop rate
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Just got ending C. I've spent too much time farming poo poo like forlorn necklaces and am honestly a bit tired of the game, so the ending didn't really resonate with me until the camera cut to the Moonflower Nier gave to Kaine. That part made me pretty  By the way, regarding ending A:Does anything special happen if you enter the wrong name (the one Youna loves most) or does the game just tell you to try again? Or is it just a fade to black and Game Over? Is it worth trying out? And does anyone have any tips for farming forlorn necklaces? I've spent HOURS killing shamans on top of the Lost Shrine (with +30 item drops) and gotten a grand total of one (1) of the things. I need two more Edit: Holy poo poo, just one more. Another edit: I got the last two in the span of ten minutes. I can't believe it. drat you, probability! Renoistic fucked around with this message at 19:54 on May 14, 2010 |
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Cyrai posted:I found it most commonly on the flying robots, especially when I equipped a weapon/magic that had a high item drop rate Much appreciated. I'll make sure to gear up some of my weapons/magic with high item drop-rates then.
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Renoistic posted:By the way, regarding ending A:Does anything special happen if you enter the wrong name (the one Youna loves most) or does the game just tell you to try again? Or is it just a fade to black and Game Over? Is it worth trying out? As someone who's actually done it, I can tell you that absolutely nothing happens. The game goes "Wrong, stupid! Try again!" and gives you the entry box again.
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Alter Ego posted:As someone who's actually done it, I can tell you that absolutely nothing happens. The game goes "Wrong, stupid! Try again!" and gives you the entry box again. Haha OK, I thought so. It would have been funny if they'd given you a "bad" ending, though.
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I've been playing this since its release. I just revisited the Lost Shrine. Despite its flaws, this game is probably going to be my favorite of the year.
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May 15, 2010 00:24
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Square making an Xbox 360 demo for Nier Sounds okay, come for the announcement, stay for the loving retards who talk about "caveman" Nier.
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May 15, 2010 00:43
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I wonder what they'll chose to demo. I hope to god they're not stupid enough to make the opening sequence a demo.
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Xythar posted:2nd playthrough stuff Well, as the documents state some of the shades are going defective and attacking the shells. Or maybe it's the other way around. Anyway, I imagine most of the shades you fight are these defective ones and/or the ones that are pissed that you keep killing them. Even Kalil is trying to get Beepy to stop fighting. There are several peaceful shades in the game but you'll only see them if you do the right sidequests. Oh and by the way, you kill them! The only one I think is kind of forced is the wolf one. The wolves were already aggressive in Part 1 but the shade wolf is acting like he's all surprised there is fighting now. The explanation for hearing Shade voices, well you've basically got it, is that Kaine could always understand them because she has Tyrann. You just get to hear it now. Game magic. I do have a question of my own though about Ending B. Who the hell are the boss shades that the Shadowlord is mourning them at the end of playthrough B? Ed: Just volunteer guardians of the "sanctuary" maybe? And he is just mourning their sacrifice, or something. Unsmart fucked around with this message at 02:35 on May 15, 2010 |
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Policenaut posted:Square making an Xbox 360 demo for Nier There's already one on the Japanese XBL, I just played it this morning, it's in full english. Having not played the full game, all I can tell you is the demo is You and Kaine fighting a scorpion-like creature that is apparently Kaine's grandmother.
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Crappy Jack posted:There's already one on the Japanese XBL, I just played it this morning, it's in full english. Having not played the full game, all I can tell you is the demo is You and Kaine fighting a scorpion-like creature that is apparently Kaine's grandmother. It's not her grandmother, it killed her grandmother
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Just picked this game up a couple of days ago, and wow. I heard good things about this game, but it's even better than what I thought it was going to be. The story and characters are some of the best from any jrpg, and combat is fun for the most part. I think this may be my favorite jrpg of this generation, which I guess isn't saying since I played maybe 3 of them. But I think I am closing in on the end of the game. I just found all 5 keystone pieces and am supposed to go to the Shadowlord's lair. Will following that take me to the end of the game, or is there still more after that?
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Just picked this game up a couple of days ago, and wow. I heard good things about this game, but it's even better than what I thought it was going to be. The story and characters are some of the best from any jrpg, and combat is fun for the most part. I think this may be my favorite jrpg of this generation, which I guess isn't saying since I played maybe 3 of them. It's at the end of the game, but there are four different endings, and a surprise or two when you play a New Game+.
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So out of curiosity, what's the typical playthrough length for this? I need to decide if this is a rental or not.
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AuroMarshmallow posted:Got ending A last night. The whole last stage was awesome, but it spawned more questions than it answered. Primarily I'm very interested in how The world gets to the state it's in currently in the first place, exactly what the hell project Gestalt and replicants are, and the motivations of Popola and Devola. Having to fight them really came out of left field for me, but looking back there were a few hints about it, I guess. Still, as relatively minor characters they are really interesting to me. Here's to hoping the other endings flesh stuff out for me. I was wondering about that as well Popola and Devola make no sense. Why would they be helping you at all? Why send you right to the doorstep?
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AuroMarshmallow posted:Got ending A last night. The whole last stage was awesome, but it spawned more questions than it answered. Primarily I'm very interested in how The world gets to the state it's in currently in the first place, exactly what the hell project Gestalt and replicants are, and the motivations of Popola and Devola. Having to fight them really came out of left field for me, but looking back there were a few hints about it, I guess. Still, as relatively minor characters they are really interesting to me. Here's to hoping the other endings flesh stuff out for me. I have theories for most of that, but the twins are a huge question mark because they're complete non-characters for most of the game and they only get a few minutes near the end to exposit. I hope we get some more info in another playthrough, but it's equally likely we'll get none at all because they say they're "guiding Nier to his destiny" or some poo poo and a lot of TV/game writers would consider that foolproof motivation. Thanks for those images by the way, Unknown_PC!!
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Jackie D posted:So out of curiosity, what's the typical playthrough length for this? I need to decide if this is a rental or not. You can reasonably play through all the real content in the game in about 20 hours without really missing content. You might have to watch endings C and D on youtube, but it's about five total minutes of extra gameplay and one decision. I rented it and completed it to my satisfaction in a rental
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Just finished Ending B. I'm really satisfied with my experience with this game, flaws and all. The fact that I can only recommend the game to friends with many caveats makes me sad, as what they do well here they do *really* well. I ended up watching ending C and D on youtube, though in retrospect since I didn't know how close I was to finding all of the weapons I somewhat regret it. Maybe I'll spend the last three hours necessary to get those final endings myself; I was really moved by them. Any word on how this game is selling? I don't know how easy it'd be to make another game in this setting, but I'd love to see Cavia make more games like this. We need more like this.
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Spite posted:I was wondering about that as well Popola and Devola make no sense. Why would they be helping you at all? Why send you right to the doorstep? Really? isn't it obvious? spoiler if you haven't beaten the B ending Popola and Devola, have not gone through the renegade mode, they are still "sane" and are helping shade Nier get his body back, you, and they are helping shade yonah get her body back.
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