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http://ia360703.us.archive.org/14/items/gov.uscourts.nyed.290110/gov.uscourts.nyed.290110.26.1.pdf hey kids, want to learn slang for sex terms? this is better than the dictionary! edit: background
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evilweasel posted:I wouldn't know, I just finished my second year. The choice of classes I have second year is the same as third year though, I'm just more likely to get the classes I want this year. I took a class on Jurisprudence (Greenawalt) ... out of necessity ... for a 12 hour M/W schedule, instead of inconvenient hours that I didn't need. I hated every minute. Imagine a bunch of Petey's arguing back and forth, yeah, its that bad. Speaking of annoying classes, I also took Human Rights and ended up getting an A, which is awesome because that class had (by far) the highest ratio of LLMs to JDs. And boy do LLMs like to speak their minds. Especially about human rights, and in defense of their precious countries. And how much they hate Israel and stuff.
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May 25, 2010 17:45
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If I have one of those 4-hours-of-work days, I go play golf. That is a big difference between small law and biglaw. entris posted:Did he go from undergrad straight to law school? A lot of people say that they hate their first "real world" job, simply because they've never worked at one before. I've seen this translate into JDs who graduate after going straight through from college, who then get a job at a law firm as their first real job ever, and they hate it and hate it but really only because it's a job and they aren't used to working like adults yet. I can't think of anything that better prepared me for law school and becoming a lawyer than working in an office for a couple of years between college and law school. You learn time budgeting, you learn focus, and you learn what having a job is like. Green Crayons posted:Probably an obvious point to add to this, but try to find a MSJ written by the attorney you're writing it for and, in lieu of that, an attorney from the same team. This is where Google Desktop can make you look like a genius. sigmachiev posted:I just wanted to say the last couple pages about the industry stuff have been really interesting and it's appreciated. New question (turning away from the difficulties): What was the funnest summer associate activity you did? I don't remember the funnest, but I remember the funniest. I went to some legal dinner at a local hotel with the firm. After the event, I kept drinking with a female partner, who was pounding. It got late, she excused herself to go to the restroom, and disappeared. I thought she left, and I was getting ready to leave, when the bar manager came over to me. The partner had passed out, face down on the floor of the bathroom. The manager told me I either needed to get her out of there, or he was calling EMS. I called MY GIRLFRIEND to come pick us up, and we went into the women's bathroom. I picked up the partner, literally threw her over my shoulder, carried her out and dumped her in the backseat of my girlfriend's car, behind the driver's seat. I went through her purse, found her address, and we started heading for her home, with my girlfriend driving. Halfway there, the partner woke up, and began "driving" by reaching around the driver's seat and grabbing my girlfriend's breasts. She "drove" for close to 10 minutes before we got her home and dropped her off with her husband and young children.
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May 25, 2010 17:48
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TheBestDeception posted:I took a class on Jurisprudence (Greenawalt) ... out of necessity ... for a 12 hour M/W schedule, instead of inconvenient hours that I didn't need. I hated every minute. Imagine a bunch of Petey's arguing back and forth, yeah, its that bad. My scholarship made me take a Jurisprudence class and I fuckin hated it. I don't know what happened but I am just not interested in debating poo poo for the sake of debate anymore, at least when I have to go to a classroom to do it. And the douchebags...lord the douchebags.
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May 25, 2010 18:08
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wacko_- posted:Fancy pants. We went to some place in Florida, Gulf side. The firm was actually probably just cheap. Each office did their own retreat vs. one big one, so essentially the Hamptons was a location that could be traveled to via subway or bus. I think it'd be more fun to have people from every office. Probably would have kept all the summers and associates from hooking up with one another since you could find someone from another office and it'd be less awkward.
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May 25, 2010 19:03
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Lol LLMs and Israel: my school hates Israel so much. The school had movie screenings accepting donations for convicted terrorists, and held fundraisers to give to organizations who then donate to Hamas. At graduation for the LLMs half of them were listed as "Palestine" as their "country" of graduation, ignoring that no such thing exists. I love how progressive my school was, except for issues of Israel. They don't realize how many Jewish students they've pissed off who absolutely won't donate anything to the school because of it.
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May 25, 2010 19:44
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SWATJester posted:Lol LLMs and Israel: my school hates Israel so much. The school had movie screenings accepting donations for convicted terrorists, and held fundraisers to give to organizations who then donate to Hamas. but hating israel is progressive 
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May 25, 2010 20:08
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SWATJester posted:Lol LLMs and Israel: my school hates Israel so much. The school had movie screenings accepting donations for convicted terrorists, and held fundraisers to give to organizations who then donate to Hamas. Start political rant: Those silly idiots, I bet they were against apartheid too! Think of all the Afrikaner money they lost. *end rant
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May 25, 2010 20:52
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I just got a letter from Air Force JAG encouraging me to apply. I have a good feeling about it because it's dated October 2009 and is addressed to "Future Attorney"
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May 25, 2010 21:07
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There are days as a clerk that I feel very valuable and incredibly underpaid and there are days when I feel wholly useless, like today. Been preppin' a big stack of paper ready to go for a summary judgment hearing, cleared up an incredibly muddled aspect of the law and framed it in our favor, expecting things to be a nasty fight and the judge just goes "gently caress it, MSJ denied. See you at trial [during the week of my finals]." Welp, you take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and then you have
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May 25, 2010 21:14
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You're in state court, right? You're going to get a lot of judges who work by feel. Fancy arguments and sparkling citations won't mean a thing.
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May 25, 2010 21:24
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http://www.wbur.org/2010/05/25/student-loans-iiquote:Caughlin has $20,000 in debt, which she calls manageable. It means she can go to law school in the fall and not feel overburdened by debt. Part of a decent ongoing series detailing the "education bubble," but these two sentences made me laugh.
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May 25, 2010 21:29
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Draile posted:You're in state court, right? You're going to get a lot of judges who work by feel. Fancy arguments and sparkling citations won't mean a thing. That's something they don't teach in law school. Noted.
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May 25, 2010 21:34
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Serious question: When a cop pulls someone over, is it a question of law or fact as to whether it is a Terry stop?
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May 25, 2010 21:57
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I think the NYC Bar Association is trolling me...quote:This program provides 1.5 transitional/non-transitional NY CLE Skills Credits. If only I had done better my 1L year... 7StoryFall posted:http://www.wbur.org/2010/05/25/student-loans-ii There is a weird mentality attached to many people I meet now who are thinking of applying to law school. If people aren't already in $100K worth of debt from their undergraduate education, they feel that they're in a great position and ready to take on more. I guess if getting a job after you graduate from university really isn't working out, any further educational ventures seem to be essential and not just a straightforward opportunity cost choice. Eric Cantonese fucked around with this message at 22:12 on May 25, 2010 |
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May 25, 2010 22:10
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Vander posted:Serious question: When a cop pulls someone over, is it a question of law or fact as to whether it is a Terry stop? isn't it a question of law, looking at the totality of the circumstances? /in reality, aren't all vehicle pull-overs also Terry stops? I don't remember.
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May 25, 2010 22:20
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entris posted:isn't it a question of law, looking at the totality of the circumstances? I don't remember either, and a party to an issue I'm working on says it's a question of fact. That doesn't sound right to me...
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May 25, 2010 22:27
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Welp, 3 job interviews, 0 offers. After this month I have a feeling I'll be competing more directly with the Class of 2010 and the closer I get to the 2010 bar exam date, the less my "have passed the bar" accomplishment means. A recent interviewer suggested (while shooting me down) that I roll over to the city court and introduce myself to the City Court Judge and see if I can't get some minor criminal work ("traffic offenses, DUIs etc") thrown my way to get experience. Is this actually a viable option? Also, I have no idea how to do those things so what's the best way to become familiar? Besides a forms book, the procedural rules, and reading the local, applicable statutes I'm not sure how to get the ball rolling on something like that. Also, making money isn't really the goal, so I'm not real worried about that. Basically, is this a workable plan to get experience, and has anyone done that or heard of it being done?
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May 25, 2010 22:58
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finally, my financial troubles are over! I got a job offer! Check it out! For more than 10 years Condition Express Inc. carries out its business by working with non-standard banking accommodations around the world. We are expanding our company and grant a list of new services in the United States. Transferal of money for non U.S. citizens with the US check is one of our new accommodations. For this reason our organization has some opened positions of "Check Processing Manager". Your responsibilities are: To get a check by USPS to cash this check To transfer money to the client the way he/she chooses To make a special formed accounts on the finished work for every check Staff claims: To have valid address in the US From 1 to 2 hours a day To have Positive credit history Your privileges: The payment of 100 $ - 500 $ daily Payment of at least 3 000 $ Couple of working hours We take care of all the taxes on the transactions you carry out. If this opening is interesting for you and you want to step please, create an account at our webpage and finish everything according to the instructions. With best wishes, TOP MANAGER Condition Express Inc. All I gotta do is give them my SSN and bank account number and I am SET! If any of you chumps wanna get at me I'll be in the fast lane, later losers
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May 25, 2010 23:09
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One last note on summer associate positions, this is excellent advice for all of your e-mails. From here.bollig posted:- If you want something you've written to sound good, read it out loud to yourself. If you get tripped over by something, there's a good chance it won't sound good to a reader. I do this with EVERYTHING. Even IM's. If you don't want to sound like a retard, read what you write.
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May 25, 2010 23:25
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Ainsley McTree posted:With best wishes, Oh boy, you got a personal letter from the man in charge himself!
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May 25, 2010 23:45
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Torpor posted:Oh boy, you got a personal letter from the man in charge himself! Not only once, but twice! From two different people in the span of one minute! They must really want me! I want to step, but I'm just not sure I can handle the responsibility of making a special formed accounts on the finished work for every check. I guess that's why it pays at least $3 000
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May 25, 2010 23:55
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Torpor posted:Oh boy, you got a personal letter from the man in charge himself! It's unbelievable that this scam is still successful enough that people still attempt it.
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May 25, 2010 23:56
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Defleshed posted:It's unbelievable that this scam is still successful enough that people still attempt it. I've been getting all sorts of scam e-mails (sometimes even phone calls) ever since I signed up for careerbuilder. I wish they made some kind of effort to keep them out, scammers who target the unemployed are the worst. At least the elderly sometimes have money, I'm just a bum
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May 25, 2010 23:57
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More of you guys should drop by the #lawgoons chat room on synirc. Its where all the cool lawgoons hang out 
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May 25, 2010 23:58
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Update: I'm drafting motions in an attempted murder case. I'm just like a real lawyer but I know even less.
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prussian advisor posted:More of you guys should drop by the #lawgoons chat room on synirc. Its where all the cool lawgoons hang out I'm still getting internet set up on my main PC at the new place, so I haven't been on for a while, drat it. SWATJester posted:I love how progressive my school was, except for issues of Israel. They don't realize how many Jewish students they've pissed off who absolutely won't donate anything to the school because of it. What an appalling sentiment; I hope you're joking.
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scribe jones posted:but hating israel is progressive I know, and the school does that. It's the only thing I don't like.
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Vander posted:Serious question: When a cop pulls someone over, is it a question of law or fact as to whether it is a Terry stop? OMG a question that is easy due to my current line of work. It's a mixed question of law and fact. http://docs.justia.com/cases/supreme/517/690.pdf Syllabus posted:The ultimate questions of reasonable suspicion to stop and probable cause to make a warrantless search should be reviewed de novo. The principal components of either inquiry are (1) a determination of the historical facts leading up to the stop or search, and (2) a decision on the mixed question of law and fact whether the historical facts, viewed from the standpoint of an objectively reasonable police officer, amount to reasonable suspicion or to probable cause. Ornelas et al. v. United States, 517 U.S. 690 (1996) mixed question of law and fact means: quote:[T]he historical facts are admitted or established, the rule of law is undisputed, and the issue is whether the facts satisfy the [relevant] statutory [or constitutional] standard, or to put it another way, whether the rule of law as applied to the established facts is or is not violated. Pullman-Standard v. Swint, 456 U.S. 273, 289, n. 19 (1982). srsly fucked around with this message at 02:13 on May 26, 2010 |
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Suitchat: This is one of my professors this quarter. Fortunately, he's never worn those sunglasses to class. I found his profile because he just sent out an e-mail to the law school listserv asking for votes.
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TheBestDeception posted:I took a class on Jurisprudence (Greenawalt) ... out of necessity ... for a 12 hour M/W schedule, instead of inconvenient hours that I didn't need. I hated every minute. Imagine a bunch of Petey's arguing back and forth, yeah, its that bad. The class might be stuffy, but Prof. Greenawalt is the poo poo  That man let me have an A- on a 17-page major writing credit paper
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JudicialRestraints posted:Update: I'm drafting motions in an attempted murder case. I'm just like a real lawyer but I know even less. "Attempted murder... pshhh.. they don't give out the Nobel Prize for Attempted Chemistry."
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May 26, 2010 02:44
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Lykourgos posted:I'm still getting internet set up on my main PC at the new place, so I haven't been on for a while, drat it. No, my school really does have an institutionalized love for palestinians and hate for Israelis that borders on the anti-semitic.
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so I am a little mixed up: is there a civil equivalent to witness tampering charges? how does it work if you tamper with witnesses in a civil case? I think most statutes ostensibly cover tampering with witnesses in both civil and criminal cases, but the statutes themselves are criminal
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May 26, 2010 04:48
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I'm writing a paper on international bank transfers. I'm a New Zealand student, but I'm trying to canvass the US and the EU in this essay. I'm having a bit of trouble working out what the US conflict of law rules are. Do you guys use the same rules for inter-state and international conflicts? Do you have any legislation for jurisdictional stuff that would help me out?
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nm I failed at reading
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May 26, 2010 13:21
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Apparently there's at least one judge in the U.S. who is biased against the prosecution! http://www.bnd.com/2010/05/26/1270386/wharton-takes-himself-off-case.html Interesting article. I wonder what possessed him to write a letter like that?
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May 26, 2010 14:44
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Defleshed posted:Apparently there's at least one judge in the U.S. who is biased against the prosecution! Maybe he's not a fan of police denying a guy legal counsel after he asks for it and continuing to question him...I think there's some piece of paper somewhere that says they're not supposed to do that
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Ainsley McTree posted:I've been getting all sorts of scam e-mails (sometimes even phone calls) ever since I signed up for careerbuilder. I wish they made some kind of effort to keep them out, scammers who target the unemployed are the worst. At least the elderly sometimes have money, I'm just a bum If the police set up an account on careerbuilder and used it to bust scammers, would that be considered entrapment?
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J Miracle posted:Maybe he's not a fan of police denying a guy legal counsel after he asks for it and continuing to question him...I think there's some piece of paper somewhere that says they're not supposed to do that No I get that, but why would he write a letter about it knowing it was conceivable that he would end up having to hear the case?
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