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LividLiquid posted:I've always loved the story of Vince saying "Jesus Christ, who hired Raven?!" and storming off. Its like the Macho Man/Stephanie story except 100% true
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The American Dream posted:• They failed to advertise a PPV and revealed no matches before it in 1999. At a loss it was advertised it by saying "We're the advertising agency and they won't even tell us who's going to be there. Tune in!". Not suprisingly the buyrate was shocking. Fall Brawl '99, IIRC.
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Did WCW ever put a pay per view on the same night as a WWF pay per view? I know there was a Clash Of Champions that was on the same night as one many years ago, but I didn't know if there had been any others
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May 26, 2010 16:48
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Endorph posted:I'm pretty sure everything Russo's ever booked counts as a "gently caress Up." The only thing I thought he did right, Lance Storm's push, was all Terry Taylor. The moment it went downhill was when Russo went, "WOW, YOU DID GET HIM OVAH, LET ME HANDLE HIM NOW TERRY"
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HVD posted:Its like the Macho Man/Stephanie story except 100% true
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Lamuella posted:Did WCW ever put a pay per view on the same night as a WWF pay per view? I know there was a Clash Of Champions that was on the same night as one many years ago, but I didn't know if there had been any others Free shows have run against both WCW & WWE PPVs, but no cable provider would have two wrestling PPVs on at the same time.
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HVD posted:The feeling is mutual. JR hired Raven without Vince's say so and Vince got really pissed off since he was still bitter about Raven getting Shane drunk/high/laid. That's why Raven never got a push. Raven also doesn't get along with half the agents/most of the office there, so that didn't help him much either. It's a shame, because he'd be perfect to run developmental for them now, but he's too obnoxious for most of the humorless jocks in WWE to put up with.
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God I'm posting a lot about Russo. But anyway he says his justification for putting the belt on Arquette was that the title meant poo poo at the time, so who cares. The company was in the shitter and he needed to do something to get people talking about WCW again. Something to make the company worth talking about, like the WWF. So he put the title on Arquette. It got WCW a lot of mainstream press actually, like mentions on entertainment shows. Courtney Cox even shot some sort of big promo video with David on another show with the belt, for free. He says that even today he'd do it again, because look at us, we're still talking about that one WCW title change 10 years later. Of course we also talk about other horrible things today, it doesn't mean they were good ideas.
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triplexpac posted:God I'm posting a lot about Russo. But anyway he says his justification for putting the belt on Arquette was that the title meant poo poo at the time, so who cares. The company was in the shitter and he needed to do something to get people talking about WCW again. Something to make the company worth talking about, like the WWF. So he put the title on Arquette. That's the problem though. "Talking about something" doesn't mean it drew. It also doesn't mean it was good for business. People still talk about the Atari 2600 "E-T" disaster, but it doesn't mean that's a good thing. It was also Vince Russo himself who helped put that belt in the shitter and helped put the company in the shitter. Putting the belt on Arquette did more damage to the company. The mainstream press did not equal higher ratings. This is one of Russo's biggest shortcomings. If people talk about you and they are saying, "WCW is loving stupid. They've ruined the company putting the belt on a lovely actor. I'm not watching them ever again", THAT'S NOT GOOD BUSINESS. If you're getting mainstream press because you made a stupid decision, THAT'S NOT GOOD BUSINESS. It's amazing because if there was one man who from Russo's booking days could have saved WCW, or at least got them out of the gutter, it's Bill Goldberg. And he was so badly mis-used. So badly.
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instant but distasteful rejoinder to the idea that "talked about" = "good idea". Who is the most talked about wrestler of the last 3 years in non wrestling media? I'll give you a clue: he's in a closet with Jamie Noble jerking off.
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Lamuella posted:instant but distasteful rejoinder to the idea that "talked about" = "good idea". Who is the most talked about wrestler of the last 3 years in non wrestling media? I'll give you a clue: he's in a closet with Jamie Noble jerking off. K I need to read this Jamie Noble story now.
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Lamuella posted:instant but distasteful rejoinder to the idea that "talked about" = "good idea". Who is the most talked about wrestler of the last 3 years in non wrestling media? I'll give you a clue: he's in a closet with Jamie Noble jerking off. EDIT: Also the Jamie Noble story is basically this: Benoit, Noble, and some other guy were at a hooter's. Their waitress flirted with the other guy and Noble and Benoit pulled him aside, and Noble went like "Ok, here's how it's gonna work. You're gonna gently caress her, and we're gonna hide in the closet and jerk off." I am bad at telling stories from memory. Endorph fucked around with this message at 23:15 on May 26, 2010 |
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I believe the other guy was Paul London. They were at a restaurant, some guy was rude to the waitress, Benoit told London to say something. London went over, told the guys off, and the waitress started getting flirty with him.
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May 26, 2010 23:20
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triplexpac posted:God I'm posting a lot about Russo. But anyway he says his justification for putting the belt on Arquette was that the title meant poo poo at the time, so who cares. The company was in the shitter and he needed to do something to get people talking about WCW again. Something to make the company worth talking about, like the WWF. So he put the title on Arquette. That's such a Russo way of thinking. WCW Title means nothing? Why not make it worse!
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The Unreal Story of Professional Wrestling is on the biography channel right now and it's pretty amazing seeing children stand in line with signs rooting for The Total Package
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• Sting pinned Lex Luger for a three count after backdropping him into a swimming pool. Is this on the internet anywhere? I did a  search and checked youtube but couldn't find anything.
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May 27, 2010 02:42
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WCW would have spring breakout every year, and someone would always fall in the pool.
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triplexpac posted:God I'm posting a lot about Russo. But anyway he says his justification for putting the belt on Arquette was that the title meant poo poo at the time, so who cares. The company was in the shitter and he needed to do something to get people talking about WCW again. Something to make the company worth talking about, like the WWF. So he put the title on Arquette. I was there live, it was glorious, I'll never forget it. I always get a tear in my eye hen I walk into the War Memorial Arena for a minor league hockey game.
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Akileese posted:• Sting pinned Lex Luger for a three count after backdropping him into a swimming pool. According to DDT Digest, Sting did backdrop Luger into the pool at that year's Spring Break Nitro, but the pinfall came much later. (Not that the rest of the match is any less ridiculous.) As excerpted from DDT Digest: quote:
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Death of WCW has a story about a backstage promo DDP and Kevin Nash did. It was them for a few minutes talking about Scott Hall...but by that point, WCW was so sick of his bullshit that they would drop audio when his name was mentioned. And since they kept mentioning him, the audio dropped a LOT. Also, Nash and DDP were distracted by a swaying overhead light the whole time. Reading about it was hilarious, I'd love to see it.
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I am curious as to how a pile driver into the water is a finisher
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I realized I only linked to the DDT Digest index. The show in question was the Nitro on March 27, 2000. Read the recap here.
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I figure this is as good a place as any. I've always wondered, where did Russo come from? Was he a TV writer? Did he start in the business? Did he just spontaneously congeal in a booking meeting?
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projecthalaxy posted:I figure this is as good a place as any. I've always wondered, where did Russo come from? Was he a TV writer? Did he start in the business? Did he just spontaneously congeal in a booking meeting? IIRC he was a NY area radio show host on a wrestling based call in show who talked poo poo about WWE until they hired him.
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I'm fairly certain he got his start writing the then WWF Magazine and Vince called a meeting with the other writers/bookers where he angrily pointed to the magazine and said,"This magazine is better than what we're putting on TV, drat it! I should hire this guy to write our show... in fact, I will!" Then he power-strutted over the table, dived through the window into some bushes and down the street into the sunset.
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Vince Russo was "Vic Venom," editor of WWf magazine. I used to read it all the time.
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Magic_Ceiling_Fan posted:Vince Russo was "Vic Venom," editor of WWf magazine. I used to read it all the time. How strange a man whose career was to make sure other people's work was cut down to its purest form became infamous for basically having no rhyme or reason or editing at all whatsoever to his own ideas.
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Sionistic posted:I am curious as to how a pile driver into the water is a finisher
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The summary of the Luger/Sting beach match has me curious about the Flair Vampiro side in the ring, which is barely covered. So did the audience attendance just get to watch these basically chill out in the ring or something? How long did that Figure Four last on Vampiro?
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Magic_Ceiling_Fan posted:WCW would have spring breakout every year, and someone would always fall in the pool. Or jump into the pool to escape, as Kevin "Spring Break '98 Cannonball Champion" did to avoid the Giant.
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oldpainless posted:How strange a man whose career was to make sure other people's work was cut down to its purest form became infamous for basically having no rhyme or reason or editing at all whatsoever to his own ideas. Vic Venom's Rule #1: Everything starts and ends with logic.
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It's two relatively forgotten wrestlers but I'll be damned if I don't remember this match really well for some reason.
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MD2020 posted:Or jump into the pool to escape, as Kevin "Spring Break '98 Cannonball Champion" did to avoid the Giant. My favorite WCW pool of death story is still the one from 3:00 of Botchamania 71: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtK34cFKlfc Where Van Hammer tries to go against the word of the gods and put Bull Payne in the pool.
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TL posted:Death of WCW has a story about a backstage promo DDP and Kevin Nash did. It was them for a few minutes talking about Scott Hall...but by that point, WCW was so sick of his bullshit that they would drop audio when his name was mentioned. And since they kept mentioning him, the audio dropped a LOT. Also, Nash and DDP were distracted by a swaying overhead light the whole time. Reading about it was hilarious, I'd love to see it. Same here. I've been looking for it for ages, too.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:My favorite WCW pool of death story is still the one from 3:00 of Botchamania 71: I've asked this before in another thread but never got an answer so I'll try again. Was Van Hammer the wrestler who posted a picture of himself next to a lamp in his living room in GBS or am I thinking of another WCW wrestler like Horace Hogan or Berlin?
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:My favorite WCW pool of death story is still the one from 3:00 of Botchamania 71: DJExile posted:It's two relatively forgotten wrestlers but I'll be damned if I don't remember this match really well for some reason. 
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This isn't super interesting (especially since I don't have a video or specifics) but I remember one Nitro after the announce table had been positioned at ringside. Bischoff was announcing for some reason and they had the table (which was normally sturdy as gently caress) gimmicked because someone was going to take a bump through it later on. Well two midcarders are fighting and one slams the other face-first onto the gimmicked table and the camera accidentally pans over to Bischoff who is going crazy telling the two wrestlers to get the gently caress away from the table, complete with arm motions.
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DJExile posted: I don't what's funnier, Van Hammer's childish stupidity or the fact that they had to have a group meet to forbid everyone from doing pool spots all night.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:
You have to believe that a talent could kill a busload of nuns while high on PCP and nude and keep their job in WCW, but if someone did a bump into the pool outside of the main event they'd be fired on the spot.
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