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JudicialRestraints posted:That's funny, I've already had to read several cases involving Disney. They kinda sue everyone over thinking about Mickey Mouse without paying them. Disney is involved in several classic business associations/corporate type cases.
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vibrantglow posted:does anyone know if personal statements and other similar writings are forwarded to the bar along with your application?
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Linguica posted:Yes, of course they are. thanks, won that bet. my friend was convinced they weren't. sucks for him and his embellished story
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Green Crayons posted:I was trying to imagine what would be a fun company to work in-house for as litigation counsel. I came up with Nintendo, Disney and Google, but then realized I never hear about them in any sort of lawsuit. This led me to wonder: Is that because they have awesome PR working 24/7 or is it because they actually really don't deal with lawsuits and employ in-house for pretty much only transactional capacities? Google has a couple of very high profile issues going on right now...like the Google Books lawsuit issue and the Viacom-Youtube lawsuit.
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vibrantglow posted:thanks, won that bet. my friend was convinced they weren't. sucks for him and his embellished story I would like to hear the backstory to this.
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builds character posted:Disney, Nintendo and Google - IP IP IPIPIPIPI IPIPI PIIP IP IP IPIPIPIPPIP. I don't know why I have these notions or where I got them from, but they don't really seem to gel with what you just described. Are they incorrect? gvibes posted:Google had a bunch of IP openings recently, but apparently their pay sucks. Also, I don't want to move to nocal. rsvandy posted:Google has a couple of very high profile issues going on right now...like the Google Books lawsuit issue and the Viacom-Youtube lawsuit. entris posted:I would like to hear the backstory to this.
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As far back as I can remember I always wanted to be a lawyer
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Ainsley McTree posted:As far back as I can remember I always wanted to be a lawyer I'm really good at arguing so I thought i would be a lawyer
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As a liberal arts graduate from a mediocre state school, I feel that...
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Welp this job sucks I should go back to school and become a lawyer because I enjoy problem-solving and challenges
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Math was way too tough to ever deal with again, but my engineering background will allow me to easily enter the lucrative and interesting field of patent law!
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I'm really interested in international human rights law.
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vibrantglow posted:thanks, won that bet. my friend was convinced they weren't. sucks for him and his embellished story I'm saying it's maybe a 20% chance they read his personal statements. Sure they've got it but how much time do they devote to each file if their cursory background check doesn't raise any flags?
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Hahaha you guys are terrible. I wanted to know what vibrantglow's friend had put in his personal statement, that he would worry about the bar reading it.
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Ainsley McTree posted:As far back as I can remember I always wanted to be a lawyer "If I could go from rags to riches..." Mr. Law School Dean? You have a WHORE attending class in room 2R. JANICE ROSSI. FIND YOUR OWN GOD drat FIRM!
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Ainsley McTree posted:As far back as I can remember I always wanted to be a lawyer http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?JobID=88472366&aid=89081893-3610&WT.mc_n=125 Apply now. PM me if you need help embellishing your answers properly.
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Green Crayons posted:For some reason I have the notions that 1. getting into IP law is difficult because it requires additional education outside of a JD and 2. that the IP field, in general, is shrinking. There are two types of IP: hard IP and soft IP. Hard IP is patent stuff that requires membership in the patent bar. That requires education outside of a JD. Soft IP does not require additional education and is basically everything not patents. That said, if it's you with your BA in English and John Doe with his PhD in chemistry then John is getting the soft IP job. That the vast majority of the IP work at those companies is IP isn't necessarily an indication that the IP field is shrinking. Historically it's much larger than it used to be but more recently I think there was an IP boom and then the economy tanked and jobs generally and spending on law services generally, both including IP, contracted. If you get a job at a big firm I don't know that you're any less likely to be able to do IP now than you were three years ago. It's just the first part that's more difficult now. I suppose the second is a bit more difficult because there are fewer hard IP jobs so those folks are competing for the soft IP jobs but I'm not aware of a huge increase in the number of soft IP folks with hard IP backgrounds. At least in the transactional world you can usually expect to make about 70% of what you made as an associate when you go in-house. Of course there are places where that's not the case and I don't know what the conversion rate is for litigation folks. Ainsley McTree posted:As far back as I can remember I always wanted to be a lawyer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tkzc983aE0
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Hey boys and girls! I've skimmed this thread and haven't found any information to really help me with my query, so here goes. Does anyone have any information about being/becoming a USAF JAG? I didn't read this thread before applying to law school, so the damage is done (though I wish I had read this thread before applying). I graduated a couple of weeks ago and I'm in the midst of bar study. I sit for the bar in July, and if I can stop browsing SA for five minutes and actually sit down and study, I hope to have my bar card come November (just kidding--I've put in a full day almost, just here on a break). I am facing bleak prospects, but I got a letter from the JAG inviting me to apply. I went into law school on a patent litigation track, decided patents is too boring, and ended up taking litigation classes. Because of my undergrad degree, I could go into either biotech law or litigation. I could still do patent litigation, but I don't really want to, my grades are poo poo, and BigLaw doesn't appeal to me anymore. But this JAG thing sounds really, really interesting. I know it's not the same as, say, infantry, but at least the military is exciting. I've been bored to tears for three years, and facing prospects of either 100-hour weeks with super-serious patent nerds or sweating it out with smug suit-types in a courtroom, it's starting to look good. I've kind of always wanted to join the military, but wanted to get an undergrad degree first. The law school thing just sort of happened, and it's never been my passion, which my grades clearly show. I think I could possibly really sink my teeth into military work, but I don't really know exactly what it entails. I have looked at the JAG site and read all the FAQs but I'd like to hear more about what it's like, what's required, etc. Once I'm admitted to the state bar, I'd be a candidate, but I'd have to act fast--I'm 31 and you have to be under 35. If anyone has any information, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
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Maggie Fletcher posted:Hey boys and girls! I've skimmed this thread and haven't found any information to really help me with my query, so here goes.
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scribe jones posted:someone in the thread got selected I think but it is ruinously competitive, especially now that the civilian job market is in the toilet. also I note with amusement that you wrote that whole post without mentioning where you went to law school. Santa Clara. I didn't realize it mattered. I mean, we're not talking T14, but we're also not talking Golden Gate. Please don't let my disdain for my legal education influence the school's reputation--it's a good school with a great administration and mostly great professors, it just wasn't my cup of tea. Also, I read the post of someone who made it through the first round, but I think s/he said the post didn't start for another year, so s/he probably couldn't give me much information. I'm sure it's insanely competitive, as is the entire legal profession at this point. It's possible that my entire graduating class got the same letter, but I haven't heard them say anything about it.
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I was the selected one, but that selection was for the "alternate" list and is for the Army; although with the exception of the Marine Corps the JAG programs are essentially the same especially to someone with no prior service. Alternate means if a spot does not open up for me this summer I'll have to reapply in the late fall or go Reserve, but it also means I'm virtually certain to get a main list spot the next time around. It is indeed extremely competitive. Something around 5% of applicants to Army JAG were accepted last application period. I'm prior service and I also have two close friends serving as JAGs. As I've done for others in the thread I'd be glad to answer your questions to the best of my ability. I don't have PM's but you can email me at klegg at luc dot edu.
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This has probably been asked recently, but I'm admittedly too busy studying to read 37 pages. I'm taking the LSAT on monday, has anything changed since '08? I took the Kaplan class then and I'm familiar with Comparative Reading addition. Anything else out of the blue in the few tests from 2008-2010, any return of the Mapping or Process games?
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entris posted:I would like to hear the backstory to this. from what he's told me, he did a bit of "humanitarian" work in college (katrina related) but his personal statement said he did humanitarian work in africa
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TheMadMilkman posted:http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?JobID=88472366&aid=89081893-3610&WT.mc_n=125 Is where you end up completely random or can you select from pretty much anywhere in the nation. I might be interested in learning how to properly embellish my answers.
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Green Crayons posted:I was trying to imagine what would be a fun company to work in-house for as litigation counsel. I came up with Nintendo, Disney and Google, but then realized I never hear about them in any sort of lawsuit. This led me to wonder: Is that because they have awesome PR working 24/7 or is it because they actually really don't deal with lawsuits and employ in-house for pretty much only transactional capacities?
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They also sued Game Genie! I was like "How will I make Mario jump over the flagpole now?"
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Maggie Fletcher posted:Santa Clara. I didn't realize it mattered. I mean, we're not talking T14, but we're also not talking Golden Gate. Please don't let my disdain for my legal education influence the school's reputation--it's a good school with a great administration and mostly great professors, it just wasn't my cup of tea. Also, I read the post of someone who made it through the first round, but I think s/he said the post didn't start for another year, so s/he probably couldn't give me much information. I'm sure it's insanely competitive, as is the entire legal profession at this point. Santa Clara is also barely T2. Hope you have good grades.
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JudicialRestraints posted:Santa Clara is also barely T2. Hope you have good grades. Hey, that's really helpful, thanks! Thank god I already have experience as a barista. Maybe Starbucks will take me back.
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Maggie Fletcher posted:Hey, that's really helpful, thanks! you joke but it's been a month and they still haven't responded to my application
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Maggie Fletcher posted:Hey, that's really helpful, thanks! I don't think you'll find anything but blunt pessimism in this thread, if you want someone to tell you everything will be OK just call up your mom or something 
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Ainsley McTree posted:you joke but it's been a month and they still haven't responded to my application I know it is sad that I have to ask this, but... Why don't you just leave the J.D. out of your application for non-lawyer jobs?
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Firtly, I have no intention of going to Law School in the USA. poo poo sounds awful. I am a dual NZ/USA citizen in my third year of a LLB/BA in New Zealand. I was wondering if people had some sources of info on Non-Bar law-ish jobs in the USA and such? Perhaps consultancy and stuff for multinational corporations that trade with New Zealand or something like that. Maybe someone here has some idea of what opportunities are out there?. Its a long way off but Im starting to get interested in living and working in Seattle, San Francisco or Atlanta after I graduate which would be like 2.5 years from now. Figured I should start exploring ideas. I have a summer clerkship lined up with a top 4 NZ firm the summer after next it appears. The law job climate here does not seem nearly as awful as it is over in the USA. I am doing pretty well for myself grade-wise etc. which is nice too. Lemonus fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Jun 4, 2010 |
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Mission Accomplished Hey brodles, a few pages back you guys were helping me with my girlfriend. Well, I figured it's only fair to congratulate you on a flawless victory. With your help, I managed to get her to put law school on hold for a year while she thinks about things and retakes her LSAT. So thank you so much! If you guys weren't handing me the ammo, I don't think I'd have been able to save her life from soul-crushing mediocrity! I had her read all of your comments and I guess that planted the seed. Today however, was her first day of an internship at a local law firm. She figured she'd stay busy and get a taste of what real law was, and after one day she's already questioning it. It's an unpaid internship, 40 hours a week, and she was hired along with two other interns. One is a girl who's already done one year of law school, and the other is a JD that graduated from SD a year ago who's been out of work since then. It's been a good exposure for her, now she can see what her prospects are. She's considering telling legal work to got gently caress itself altogether. Now we just gotta figure out what the gently caress she's going to do with her rhetoric/media studies degrees from Berk.  Sexcess!
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Ainsley McTree posted:you joke but it's been a month and they still haven't responded to my application Hard to believe, but they are rather selective. My roommate worked there and they loved her, so that helped. Plus, you can't just hand over your application and wait. You have to find out when they're holding open interviews--usually during the afternoons--and physically go in and speak with someone. But yea, don't tell them about your law degree. Me being in law school made them dubious about me. If you were joking about this, I'm going to feel really, really stupid. Thanks for answering my question about JAG, guys. Knowing how competitive it is makes it look even more interesting (I'm one of those people who loves challenges), even though it's actually a long shot for me. Please don't take offense, as this assumption was born out of ignorance and not condescension, but I was wondering if maybe they were desperate. Clearly I was wrong about that.
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Alaemon posted:They also sued Game Genie! I was like "How will I make Mario jump over the flagpole now?" Wish I'd read this thread before settling for a TTT.
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deathdrive83 posted:Endlessly running through Level 1-1 with no end in sight is a good metaphor for my job hunt. As a fellow TTT-grad, let me assure you that this is not the case. The correct metaphor lies with the Minus World. We are endlessly repeating 2-2 while the clock counts down no matter how many times we complete the level. There's a moment of respite when the timer strikes zero and Mario dies, only to be reborn at the beginning of 2-2 once more. Our only release is the sweet embrace of the Game Over. Thank you, Mario. But your living wage is in another castle.
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The Warp posted:Mission Accomplished What was her LSAT/GPA again?
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Alaemon posted:They also sued Game Genie! I was like "How will I make Mario jump over the flagpole now?" http://www.gametrailers.com/video/episode-2-pop-fiction/100619 i guess legitimately jumping over the flagpole is like getting deferred till 2012 or something?
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Incredulous Red posted:What was her LSAT/GPA again? Her GPA was a 3.6, her LSAT was, well, she won't tell me. Heh.
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