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Sgt Fox posted:Do it. I personally don't like the flex heads but the F80 is great. I agree, after using a friends set, I decided to get a 1/4, 3/8 and a 1/2" Dual 80 wrench and tossed my no names, and relegated the craftsmen to my "backup" set that I keep in the car. I'll stick to craftsman for sockets and such, but those dual 80's feel great, and they're a thinner profile than my old ratchets.
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Lowclock posted:I got the cheapo HF 1/4 Sheet Orbital Hand Sander...I don't even want to think about how long the little sheet clamps are going to last I bought the same one. They broke on mine the second time I put sandpaper on it. no lie. It was about 3 years ago I bought it and it still works great using adhesive backed paper though.
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I bought Snap-On 1/4" and 3/8" Dual 80 ratchets on ebay today. I also bought a Snap-On ratcheting screwdriver. $150 for all 3, hopefully they all work okay.
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I got my Dual80 3/8 drive today and the shallow socket set. Holypoo poo these things are nice. The ratchet has a really nice working motion. Here's to more busted knuckles over busted wrenches.
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Now that I've got a hoist of my own, it's about time I look for a load leveler. I can't for the life of me find the harbor freight one, but I don't want a lovely one that I can barely turn with weight on it. There are a couple that look good, one is Summit brand and the other is OTC. I wouldn't be surprised if the Summit one is just a re-packaged OTC, I was wondering what you guys use.
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Raluek posted:Now that I've got a hoist of my own, it's about time I look for a load leveler. I can't for the life of me find the harbor freight one, but I don't want a lovely one that I can barely turn with weight on it. There are a couple that look good, one is Summit brand and the other is OTC. I wouldn't be surprised if the Summit one is just a re-packaged OTC, I was wondering what you guys use. I have that OTC leveler, and I like it. Makes it easy to pull an engine/trans out by yourself (of course, if you can get help, you may as well). It's very easy to turn the lever under load.
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I read the past few pages, and it seems there's a lot of hate for cheaper compressors, so this might be a bit of a lost cause, but if I wanted to do basic repair work (I'm thinking the clutch on my Miata soon), is there anything sub $200 that'll be portable and useful at all? I'm in an apartment, so I'd have to lug it back upstairs. I get work cycles and all that, and don't mind using it for ten minutes and waiting for the air to build back up, but it sounds like I'd be wasting $200 to get a cheap Harbor Freight 3-5 horse compressor. Am I wrong in this assessment? I can do this poo poo with normal tools, I just feel like I'd have fewer issues with stubborn bolts with access to a compressor and an impact wrench.
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Air ratchets seem like such a great idea until you actually use one. I'll pick up a regular ratchet instead of the air ratchet 99 times out of 100. What I'm saying is try one out before you plop down a couple hundred dollars on a tool you may not like much, especially for a lovely setup for a tool you may not like much.
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frozenphil posted:Air ratchets seem like such a great idea until you actually use one. I'll pick up a regular ratchet instead of the air ratchet 99 times out of 100. What I'm saying is try one out before you plop down a couple hundred dollars on a tool you may not like much, especially for a lovely setup for a tool you may not like much. I find it's only really useful for when I need something to sit there winding away on something that needs a bit more torque than a drill-type driver, but not the savagery of an impact wrench. T-800 CPU access port retaining screws, for instance.
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Shlomo Palestein posted:don't mind using it for ten minutes and waiting for the air to build back up More like using it for 5-10 seconds, then waiting 2 minutes for the air to build back up. The only thing you'd need it for for a clutch job would be pulling the wheels, everything else should be done by hand or will be in too tight of a spot. Even with a big air compressor I reach for the hand tools 99% of the time. The time saved with the power tool is almost always wasted in swapping tools.
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Shlomo Palestein posted:I read the past few pages, and it seems there's a lot of hate for cheaper compressors, so this might be a bit of a lost cause, but if I wanted to do basic repair work (I'm thinking the clutch on my Miata soon), is there anything sub $200 that'll be portable and useful at all? I'm in an apartment, so I'd have to lug it back upstairs. I get work cycles and all that, and don't mind using it for ten minutes and waiting for the air to build back up, but it sounds like I'd be wasting $200 to get a cheap Harbor Freight 3-5 horse compressor. Am I wrong in this assessment? I can do this poo poo with normal tools, I just feel like I'd have fewer issues with stubborn bolts with access to a compressor and an impact wrench. I'm not sure if I'm reading this correctly. Do you want to charge your air compressor and carry it out to your car or run a long extension cord and have it hooked up outside? My dad has a small, cheap compressor and I don't mind using it. I get enough air to take off a wheel before the pump turns itself on. It's good enough for light work that doesn't require a constant stream of air (impact gun). It is, however, loud and heavy; not something you'd want to be lugging around and using in an apartment building. A better use of your money would be to get an electric impact wrench. More portable and probably cheaper.
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Jun 4, 2010 17:14
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The electric impact wrench sounds pretty good, actually. I'll look into those.
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Make sure that you have lots of different lengths of extensions. Extensions already dull the power of an impact gun and if you have two or more extensions the gun will be dramatically weaker.
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frozenphil posted:Air ratchets seem like such a great idea until you actually use one. I'll pick up a regular ratchet instead of the air ratchet 99 times out of 100. What I'm saying is try one out before you plop down a couple hundred dollars on a tool you may not like much, especially for a lovely setup for a tool you may not like much. I have the opposite opinion. I use my 1/4" air ratchet 99 times out of 100 (though rarely the 3/8" bone breaking machine). I am so spoiled, I get annoyed when I have to turn something by hand.
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CatBus posted:I have the opposite opinion. I use my 1/4" air ratchet 99 times out of 100 (though rarely the 3/8" bone breaking machine). I am so spoiled, I get annoyed when I have to turn something by hand. Yeah, I'd probably use an air ratchet more too if every bolt I needed to remove was rusted in place and just going to break or rip out anyway. loving BURN!
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frozenphil posted:loving BURN!
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InitialDave posted:Maybe an air ratchet means jobs progress too quickly for your sensibilities. Nothing worth doing is worth doing fast.
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All this talk of 1/4" air ratchets is reminding me of my lack of one. Has anyone tried the HF professional line? Is it better than the basic? Supposedly it makes more torque and uses less air.
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Snap-on makes a really nice stubby one.
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Sgt Fox posted:Snap-on makes a really nice stubby one. Dont have snapon money. I have HF money.
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RealKyleH posted:All this talk of 1/4" air ratchets is reminding me of my lack of one. Has anyone tried the HF professional line? Is it better than the basic? Supposedly it makes more torque and uses less air. Anything branded Central Pneumatic "Earthquake" will make your manhood grow hard with use. Seriously, the 1/2 Earthquake Impact wrench had rednecks lining up at my house wanting to use it. It was TEARING poo poo up that I couldn't break free with a 36" Snap-On breaker bar with a fatass neighbor jumping up and down on it. I bought the 1/2" Earthquake air ratchet yesterday and it's stronger than my trusty CH Impact gun. Amazing. Their 1/4" drive Earthquake air ratchet is here: http://www.harborfreight.com/air-tools/ratchets/1-4-quarter-inch-professional-air-ratchet-wrench-65159.html As of 6/6/10 it's on sale for $49.00. Get a 20% coupon and mack that sucker. R-Type fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Jun 6, 2010 |
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PBCrunch posted:I bought a Skil 7.2-Volt Lithium Ion Power Wrench on Amazon today. The reviews are kind of mixed, but all I want this for is to drive bolts and screws to the point where my ratchet can be used to finish them off so I don't have to waste time turning the fastener by hand to get it finger tight. Also, vice versa. I want to crack bolts with real tools and then use this to get them the rest of the way off. I cannot yet speak to the battery life, but my Skil cordless lithium ion screwdriver goes a pretty long time on a charge. We have a Skill screwdriver just like it at work and it always goes all day on a charge, and we use it a LOT.
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PBCrunch posted:The Skil POWER RATCHET came today and is pretty cool. I will definitely be getting a set of 1/4" drive metric deep sockets to extend its usefulness. It was very helpful in removing and installing some bolts that hold on the spark plug valley covers on my Lexus and some brackets that hold some wires in place on my Integra. You do need to break the bolts loose with hand tools and then follow up with this tool, but I expected that. It has the potential to make tedious jobs like valve cover removals go a lot faster. I used to have one of those when I was working on my very first project car. Battery life was pretty good iirc. Made taking apart body panels and interior bits a breeze. Course, I didn't know anything about anything back then, and learned the hard way about why you don't break things loose with 1/4" drive.
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R-Type posted:Anything branded Central Pneumatic "Earthquake" will make your manhood grow hard with use. Seriously, the 1/2 Earthquake Impact wrench had rednecks lining up at my house wanting to use it. It was TEARING poo poo up that I couldn't break free with a 36" Snap-On breaker bar with a fatass neighbor jumping up and down on it. I bought the 1/2" Earthquake air ratchet yesterday and it's stronger than my trusty CH Impact gun. Amazing. I got one of these for FREE.  It works pretty darn good.
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*Also Sprach Zarathustra*     http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa...r%20Compressors US General 60 Gallon 130 PSI twin cylinder air compressor. Air delivery: 12.8 CFM @ 90 PSI, 14.5 CFM @ 40 PSI. I compared it to the Home Depot Husky and it's CH counterpart sold at Lowes, beat both of them out in every catagory. By the way, this compressor is actually a Bel-Air unit made here in the US of A. My cost with 20% coupon = $314.00  Now time to pull some power and run some 400 PSI PVC....
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HF (at least mine) doesn't actually sell any cutoff or grinding discs that fit their 4" electric angle grinder. When I took mine in and showed an employee, he took my 4" and traded me up to the 4.5" for free despite mine being several months old, and not having a box or receipt. He also threw in a package of cutoff discs and gave me $5 for my trouble! I love Harbor Freight.
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R-Type posted:By the way, this compressor is actually a Bel-Air unit made here in the US of A. What? When did this happen? I demand proof.
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oxbrain posted:What? When did this happen? I demand proof. Seriously, if this is true I'm buying one tomorrow.
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http://www.maxtool.com/product/search.asp?mdb=%5Ctools.mdb,tbl=IC_ITEMS,template=/Belaire-4.htm,DBCOMP=ABS,ReturnMax=1,DB_ITEM=6061V A couple of things are flipped around, pay attention to the details.
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But isn't the HF one just a copy made in China?
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Rhyno posted:But isn't the HF one just a copy made in China? The tank has a plate welded on certification that was done in california. The electric motor has stickers that says made in mexico, however the shop in Houston that sells the BelAir has the same stickers in the same places. As far as I know, they are one and the same. I read on a HF review site about a month ago that these US general models were being purchased from BelAir or Devilbliss.
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R-Type posted:The tank has a plate welded on certification that was done in california. The electric motor has stickers that says made in mexico, however the shop in Houston that sells the BelAir has the same stickers in the same places. As far as I know, they are one and the same. I read on a HF review site about a month ago that these US general models were being purchased from BelAir or Devilbliss. Well poo poo, I think I want one!
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Their parts manual claims that's a B3800 pump, which indeed is made by the same company that makes Bel-Aire compressors. I couldn't find it on any of their Bel-Aire branded compressors, but they do make it. More likely they're making the pumps under license in china. The only benefit to flipping the valve body would be to have a cheaper discharge tube, but the labor required would destroy any savings if you're pulling apart new pumps to flip them. I can't find any other examples of that pump with the valve body flipped like that, and no self respecting assembly line would stop and re-task so some other company can save $0.25 per unit. Doing some digging around, Lowes used to sell a kobalt branded compressor with the same pump. The HF [url=http://images.harborfreight.com/manuals/3000-3999/3848.pdf[/url]]maunal[/url] is almost a complete copy and paste from the lowes manual. It's possible that they bought up a shitload of returned/damaged kobalt units and reconditioned them. edit: The tank had to be certified here or it couldn't have been sold here. The ASME doesn't gently caress around. I would expect it to be assemble in mexico, which would explain the "made in mexico" sticker. The critical part is the pump, it represents 75% of the cost of the compressor. If the pump actually comes from the same assembly line as the bel-aire then that's a pretty decent compressor for the cost. Stick a magnet on the main body of the pump. I wonder if it's cast iron like the B3800 should be, or cast aluminum. oxbrain fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Jun 8, 2010 |
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Ooh shiny (but not new). Click here for the full 2048x1536 image. Snap-On T72 Dual 80 1/4" Drive Racthet Snap-On F80 Dual 80 3/8" Drive Racthet Snap-On Ratcheting Screwdriver (with action so-so fine)
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oxbrain posted:Their parts manual claims that's a B3800 pump, which indeed is made by the same company that makes Bel-Aire compressors. I couldn't find it on any of their Bel-Aire branded compressors, but they do make it. Wow, you really know your pneumatic pumps! This tank body appears to be made of steel or iron as a magnet stuck to it. I ran it last night for the break-in proceedure with a temporary 240v connection, it seemed to be OK. it didn't vibrate as much as I expected, even running on my slab with no isolators, and it was quite a bit more quiet than my old 5HP 30 gal craftsman. I think it will be OK for my level of use and projects. If I was planning on doing more work on a frequent basis or was making professional investment, I drat sure would have purchased the Ingersoll-Rand from Northern Tool. Anybody that's interested in this compressor: I'll have it connected by this weekend and put it through some load testing. Look in this thread for updates.
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R-Type posted:Wow, you really know your pneumatic pumps! Yeah as far as air compressors and festivas, he doesn't gently caress around.
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R-Type posted:Now time to pull some power and run some 400 PSI PVC....
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R-Type posted:Anybody that's interested in this compressor: I'll have it connected by this weekend and put it through some load testing. Look in this thread for updates. I'll be interested to know how long it takes to fill the tank from empty now and several months from now. Definitely don't use PVC for compressed air. The pressure fluctuations work harden it and it will eventually split open. Black iron pipe is cheaper, easier to assemble, and will help cool the air.
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ab0z posted:Yeah as far as air compressors and festivas, he doesn't gently caress around. If only he would combine the two. First air powered Festiva anyone?
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NinjaTech posted:If only he would combine the two. First air powered Festiva anyone? Id prefer a festiva powered air compressor.
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