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frozenphil posted:You take that thing down the Rubicon yet? Pictures just don't do it justice. The car is lowered about 1.5" all around. ugg - coil-overs are the only thing I can do to get a better drop 
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kalvick posted:Pictures just don't do it justice. The car is lowered about 1.5" all around. I only tease because my suspension is still stock. 
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Aug 31, 2010 03:36
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So I'm in a market for a new car and the new mustang gt seems like the one. Such performance with a very reasonable price tag! So anyway, I saw that if you wanted to include the HID option, you need to include some security option and they total up to like a grand. So the question is, would it be better to just get a hid conversion kit or is the OEM hid light a lot better than the aftermarket converter? I have yet to do a test drive but I'm all excited already haha.
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Aug 31, 2010 04:30
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drat i thought i had a pretty nice condition mustang gt from 99 but you guys have better condition ones they are at least 2-5 years newer than mine though... is there any way i can get the 01-04 hood scoop for the 99 gt? i really loving despise my hood. It looks awful without that hood scoop, since the piece of plastic honey comb poo poo is so prominent smack dab in the center of it.
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Aug 31, 2010 04:38
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Imperador do Brasil posted:Here's a picture of it in the showroom, with my son foaming at the mouth to get in. More and better pictures to arrive when I take delivery. We'll need more pictures and some videos ASAP! This is the exact color combo that my gf keeps telling me to get, personally I was growing fond of kona blue with the red skinny stripes from the SVTPP. Even though the 2011 5.0L GT is the best bang for the buck, I can't deny the fact that I love the GT500 (and I was a diehard Chevy guy). Luckily one of my nearby dealers has around 8 - 10 2011 GT500's sitting in their showroom in various colours and stripe packages and they are quite willing to negotiate. Just gotta dig up some cash first ....and garage space.
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Aug 31, 2010 05:24
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washow posted:So the question is, would it be better to just get a hid conversion kit or is the OEM hid light a lot better than the aftermarket converter? Well, you could start out with something designed for the car. Usable in all conditions because it was designed to. A likely decades long life assured by a warranty. A beam spread that is not only safe for you, but others. Lighting performance probably not improved upon much. Or none of those. HID lamps in a halogen projector will have the wrong beam spread, blinding other drivers and lessening your vision, let alone dangerous if the wiring isn't up to the task. Any damage from them wouldn't be warrantied by Ford. HID retrofit kits aren't street legal in the US, with some extremely rare and expensive exceptions that I guarantee cost way more than just getting the proper headlights in the first place.
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Aug 31, 2010 05:42
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frozenphil posted:Dealers are making killer deals on GT500s now that the supercharger info for the GT has been released and everyone sees the potential there. Got any quotes for the gt500? i know someone who is interested and i just pointed them towards costco, since with the SVT package its $47,890... Considering an equal mustang gt 5.0 premium would be about $44000-45000 after FRPP supercharger installed and exhaust (since the gt500 sounds awesome stock, easily worth $1000). oh yeah plus 3 year warranty on the whole shebang instead of just a 1 year after you get a FRPP supercharger installed. Sure its not as fast as a SCed 5.0 but i bet its enough trouble putting down the gt500s power as is. coolskillrex remix fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Aug 31, 2010 |
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Baby Hitler posted:Well, you could start out with something designed for the car. Usable in all conditions because it was designed to. A likely decades long life assured by a warranty. A beam spread that is not only safe for you, but others. Lighting performance probably not improved upon much. But thanks for that info! Also I guess the Costco auto gets a significant discount? I'll need to look into that
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Aug 31, 2010 10:00
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If you are not buying your HID parts at a Ford dealer, with "Ford" stamped all over them, then you're a colossal rear end.
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Aug 31, 2010 12:07
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Omegaslast posted:is there any way i can get the 01-04 hood scoop for the 99 gt? i really loving despise my hood. It looks awful without that hood scoop, since the piece of plastic honey comb poo poo is so prominent smack dab in the center of it. Seriously ask yourself "Do I want to spend money on a plastic hood scoop? Have it installed and painted and end up looking like an 01 to 04 mustang?" for the same amount of money you could get a real nice aftermarket hood. Steeda and Cervinis make some nice hoods. then the car could be a head turner.
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Aug 31, 2010 13:35
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frozenphil posted:I only tease because my suspension is still stock. I love True Blue color 'Stangs! This color is one of the best colors hands down! I only wish that color was out when I got my car! My second choice for best color is Gun Metal Grey.
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Aug 31, 2010 13:37
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Omegaslast posted:is there any way i can get the 01-04 hood scoop for the 99 gt? Yes, but you're better off buying a complete hood from a junkyard or a Mustang forum's classifieds or buying whatever aftermarket hood you like. Omegaslast posted:Got any quotes for the gt500? I'm not a dealer. Find a dealer who advertises on a Mustang forum and ask them what they can do. kalvick posted:I love True Blue color 'Stangs! This color is one of the best colors hands down! I only wish that color was out when I got my car! My second choice for best color is Gun Metal Grey. That's actually Sonic Blue. I'm just gonna post my favorite picture of my car, even though I've posted it millions of times here. 
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frozenphil posted:That's actually Sonic Blue. I'm just gonna post my favorite picture of my car, even though I've posted it millions of times here. yea yea yea, Sonic Blue, thats what I meant. Gun Metal Grey also has a more formal name but I also forgot that name too. I dont really care enough to look it up.
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kalvick posted:yea yea yea, Sonic Blue, thats what I meant. Gun Metal Grey also has a more formal name but I also forgot that name too. I dont really care enough to look it up. Dark Shadow Grey. It's a great color that, like Sonic Blue or Grabber Blue, doesn't show right in photos.
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Aug 31, 2010 15:46
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frozenphil posted:Yes, but you're better off buying a complete hood from a junkyard or a Mustang forum's classifieds or buying whatever aftermarket hood you like. I would think getting the scoop painted "laser red" would be around $300 total, while buying an aftermarket hood for around $550-$600, then having that painted for $350-$400 is more than 3 times as much. Unless im wrong about prices i dont want to spend $1000 on a 99 GT just to get a new hood when the current one is still in good condition. quote:I'm not a dealer. Find a dealer who advertises on a Mustang forum and ask them what they can do. I meant what kind of quotes were you seeing that indicated the dealers were willing to make deals on the GT500.
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Omegaslast posted:I would think getting the scoop painted "laser red" would be around $300 total, while buying an aftermarket hood for around $550-$600, then having that painted for $350-$400 is more than 3 times as much. Unless im wrong about prices i dont want to spend $1000 on a 99 GT just to get a new hood when the current one is still in good condition. Hence why I said "forum's classified ads". http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php/163579-FS-99-04-Cervini-CobraR-hood-Laser-Red http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php/163422-2000-Cobra-R-hood http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php/162916-FS-gt-hood-with-functional-scoop.!!!! http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php/163413-heat-extractor-hood-new Post up a "Want to buy" ad and you'll find someone selling an '01-'04 GT hood in your area, probably in your color.
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http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorial-do-not-buy-a-2011-mustang-5-0/quote:What you see above is the cutaway of the Ford 5.0L mill, taken from the 2010 New York Auto Show. Formerly known as the Coyote V8, the 5.0-packed 2011 Mustang GT hit the showroom floors, winning rave reviews with every journalist lucky enough to get their hands on one. While blogging for TTAC at the New York Auto Show, I hit up the Five-Oh engine displays at the Ford booth. It was a thoroughly technical and suitably beautiful exhibit. Only problem was, it gave away a secret that nobody should know. Camera in hand, I did the deed: a picture tells a thousand words, but this TTAC Editorial still needs about 800 words to go with.
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I wonder if he really thinks he found something out that no one knew before? The engineers flat out said they built the car for DI but haven't implemented it yet because of cost constraints for the new engine. From the expansive March, 2010 5.0 Mustangs and Super Fords article about the Coyote: quote:Perhaps the final major head-design challenge was packaging everything into the downsized Coyote head. This was only slightly complicated by leaving room for an EcoBoost fuel injector. Its path low on the intake side was protected during Coyote development in case Ford decides to fit the somewhat bulky direct injection injector to the 5.0-liter in the future. Look at the angle the injector has to the cylinder right now:  That's basically a straight shot, giving most of the advantages of DI with none of the cost.
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Direct port atomizes better and does not have to worry about flowing past the valve.
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Oh god the comments: quote:When you said not to buy a 2011 Mustang, I thought you had discovered either: Also, Fords were unreliable before the mid '00s? YOU DON'T SAY!
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wandler20 posted:Direct port atomizes better and does not have to worry about flowing past the valve. Ok, but neither of those are major issues with the current design, or concerns for the engineers? When DI comes out, I hope it ups the MPG a bit, and maybe adds some power. It's definitely not a reason to avoid buying the 11 GT.
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Whoa, I figured that since my 1997 econobox was DI, any performance car fourteen years later would be. Pretty surprising!
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Fucknag posted:Solid rear axles are apparently the most dangerous thing ever to be designed by mankind. Yeah, I'm not exactly a "car guy," but can someone explain to me where the idea that a live rear axle is dangerous comes from? What dangerous situation can it create?
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PT6A posted:Yeah, I'm not exactly a "car guy," but can someone explain to me where the idea that a live rear axle is dangerous comes from? What dangerous situation can it create? Jeremy Clarkson doesn't like it, that's all you need to know.
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frozenphil posted:I wonder if he really thinks he found something out that no one knew before? The engineers flat out said they built the car for DI but haven't implemented it yet because of cost constraints for the new engine. I like to think that the worker who was tasked with cutting this engine in half quit on the spot claiming he refused to deface a work of art. 
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PT6A posted:Yeah, I'm not exactly a "car guy," but can someone explain to me where the idea that a live rear axle is dangerous comes from? What dangerous situation can it create? If you are going around a corner at super fast speeds and you hit a large bump with one of your rear tires theres a good chance it can lose grip completely on you. Its dangerous only at already really dangerous speeds. So if youre some idiot who goes on lovely mountain roads at top speed then yeah it will put you in trouble. Wont give you any trouble on a decent track though.
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frozenphil posted:That's basically a straight shot, giving most of the advantages of DI with none of the cost. The engineers called it "Poor Man's Direct Injection" and specifically stated it was built with DI in mind. It'll be easy to add direct injection to the block, it just wasn't cost effective to make the high production number 5.0s DI.
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BonzoESC posted:Whoa, I figured that since my 1997 econobox was DI, any performance car fourteen years later would be. Pretty surprising! Um. Nope. Your econobox is fuel injected, not direct injected. Unless it's a diesel. DI for gas engines is a comparatively recent phenomenon, though it's quickly spreading to all new engines. Bonus points: the Corvette offered fuel injection as an option starting in 1957 (albeit a mechanical system.)
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wandler20 posted:Direct port atomizes better Have a source? Not trying to be a dick, it just doesn't make sense to me how a fuel injector in the combustion chamber can atomize fuel better than a fuel injector farther away with room for the fuel to atomize in the intake runner. Fucknag posted:Oh god the comments: Only under acceleration. That's why you see drag racers switching to IRS all the time. pienipple posted:The engineers called it "Poor Man's Direct Injection" Look at the picture I posted's file name. 
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centric8 posted:Um. Nope. Your econobox is fuel injected, not direct injected. Unless it's a diesel. DI for gas engines is a comparatively recent phenomenon, though it's quickly spreading to all new engines. It's recent in the US, if he's in Europe they've had it in cars since '97 and most manufacturers have at least one Di model, including mercedes who had it in '53.
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frozenphil posted:Have a source? Not trying to be a dick, it just doesn't make sense to me how a fuel injector in the combustion chamber can atomize fuel better than a fuel injector farther away with room for the fuel to atomize in the intake runner. I think the fact that DI is like 2000 PSI and normal FI is like 50 PSI probably has something to do with it
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frozenphil posted:Only under acceleration. That's why you see drag racers switching to IRS all the time. I thought it was the other way around: drag racers switching to live-axles from IRS due to wheel hop under acceleration  Likewise, IRS swaps into Mustangs: cool, subjective or straight-up blasphemy? Anyone make kits for late models?
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rscott posted:I think the fact that DI is like 2000 PSI and normal FI is like 50 PSI probably has something to do with it Plus having decades upon decades of nozzle/flow/pressure/atomization development in diesels maximizing power and efficiency using the same technology. Standard ~3bar pintle tip fuel injectors haven't really changed since their first use in the 60s with D-Jetronic.
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The only real disadvantages with DI are the cost (which is coming down as they get more common) and the fact that with no fuel going past the intake valve anymore, they can get pretty loving crusty.
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kalvick posted:Pictures just don't do it justice. The car is lowered about 1.5" all around. my S197 is lowered about 1.5" - what size wheels do you have? Mine are factory 18s 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNtbtU9yO9c&feature=related Just thought I'd leave this here. Something about twin turbo'd Mustangs get me all kinds of flustered.
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IOwnCalculus posted:The only real disadvantages with DI are the cost (which is coming down as they get more common) and the fact that with no fuel going past the intake valve anymore, they can get pretty loving crusty. I'm pretty sure another (major, for the Mustang) disadvantage is with the after-market. Unless they start putting 1000cc injectors in from the factory, they may not be able to make big power numbers for a while. I don't know if the after-market is going to have the necessary drop-in replacements available for a while. Most people would probably end up having to retrofit F.I. back onto the car to boost it. I just searched for after-market injectors for ever performance-oriented car I can think of and found nothing. That said, I'm all for skipping D.I. for a while.
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People have not really had any problems dealing with the BMW N54 DI turbo engine and adding lots of power, so there's probably capacity left over. With DI you can have really small injector opening times, so keeping the smallest possible injectors isn't much of an issue compared to low-pressure port injection. Try plugging in 2000psi into a injector calculator and see what sizes the injectors would be at a comparable 43psi or so.
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My only experience with DI has been with my MS3, but I thought the injectors themselves aren't a major limiting factor on many DI engines? You'll definitely need to upgrade the high-pressure fuel pump but (and I could be entirely wrong on this) I don't recall seeing many people upgrading the injectors themselves, even on cars pushing 400hp+ with much larger than stock turbochargers (stock power levels are 260hp on a K04 turbo)
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Taaaaaaarb! posted:I thought it was the other way around: drag racers switching to live-axles from IRS due to wheel hop under acceleration It was sarcasm. The easiest way to put an IRS into a late model Mustang is to buy one out of a '99, '01, '03, or '04 Cobra as they just bolt in in place of the solid axle. rscott posted:I think the fact that DI is like 2000 PSI and normal FI is like 50 PSI probably has something to do with it Makes sense. I wasn't aware that DI used such high pressure.
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