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Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
keep snyping; you dont have to report back

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Nanami Madobe
May 23, 2008

I love animal porn! So F* you if you don't accept that!

Jonny 290 posted:

keep snyping; you dont have to report back

Rufus Ping
Dec 27, 2006





I'm a Friend of Rodney Nano

Nanami Madobe posted:



nooooooooooo what happened to ur av :(

The Wonder Weapon
Dec 16, 2006



Just read this entire thread in one sitting

wikipedia is hilariously awful (mlmp) and is now my favorite site

After reading about the fictional bears then seeing the seagull making GBS threads I was crying

JawnV6
Jul 4, 2004

So hot ...

The Wonder Weapon posted:

Just read this entire thread in one sitting

wikipedia is hilariously awful (mlmp) and is now my favorite site

After reading about the fictional bears then seeing the seagull making GBS threads I was crying

thanks for this post

EMILY BLUNTS
Jan 1, 2005

Starbucks' melusine

I have corrected the former confusing text about the "siren" in the Starbucks logo, which elicited a query at my Talkpage. It now reads as follows:

Though technically the heraldic charge employed as Starbucks' logo is a melusine displayed, crowned or, in 2006, Valerie O'Neil, a Starbucks spokeswoman, said that the logo is an image of a "twin-tailed siren",[1] the sirens of Greek mythology having developed aquatic characteristics during the Middle Ages, and cognates of siren have come to denote mermaids in several European languages. The image was more correctly identified as a melusine by Ann Rippin the following year.[2]

Notes

1. ^ "The Insider: Principal roasts Starbucks over steamy retro logo". Seattle Post-Intelligencer. September 11, 2006. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/284533_theinsider11.html. Retrieved May 23, 2007.
2. ^ Rippin, Ann (2007). "Space, place and the colonies: re-reading the Starbucks' story". Critical perspectives on international business (Emerald Group Publishing) 3 (2): 136-149. ISSN 1742-2043. http://www.emeraldinsight.com/Insight/ViewContentServlet?Filename=Published/EmeraldFullTextArticle/Articles/2900030202.html.

We have an editor who, without actually knowing anything about sirens, mermaids or melusines, just prefers the confusing version. I think we needn't be bullied about this: "if Starbucks call it a siren, we call it a siren" etc etc. Wikipedia is a readers' service. Intentionally retaining misleading text is a disservice. I struggle every day with scribblers and others who undermine Wikipedia's credibility, so perhaps I am intolerant. The text above is fully supported by references, here and at Siren, Mermaid and Melusine. I am willing to provide additional references for any statement. --Wetman (talk) 07:21, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

My argument that we "call it a siren because Starbucks calls it a siren" is neither bullying nor misleading. I've always said that we have to call it a siren in the absence of any sources identifying it as anything else. I'd probably edit your addition to remove the stuff about the heraldic charge (since that's not supported by a source), but leave in the bit about it's being a melusine, assuming that final source is useful in that regard (haven't had a chance to read it yet). Esrever (klaT) 11:36, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Actually, as I look at it, I'd probably cut almost all of that stuff, since it has nothing to do with Starbucks and is a relatively minor point about the logo.

In 2006, Valerie O'Neil, a Starbucks spokeswoman said that the logo is an image of a "twin-tailed siren".[1] The image was more correctly identified as a melusine by Ann Rippin the following year.[2]

And as I re-read that, I notice that it seems to sound an awful lot like what's already in the article, so I'd probably have reverted you, too. Esrever (klaT) 11:39, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

"The image was more correctly identified as a melusine by Ann Rippin the following year". Total opinion. Also, Wetman, mind your insults. I bloody well do know what a melusine is, and a siren, and a mermaid, but I also know what WP:ORIGINAL RESEARCH is, and I know that Wikipedia is verifiable and not WP:THETRUTH. So before you start characterising other editors as "scribblers", perhaps you should get off your high horse and stick to using reliable sources. The version as it stood was entirely factual and based on sources, and was not at all confusing. It might not satisfy your insistence that the logo really is of a melusine, but that's Wikipedia for you. You'll notice above that I've sourced the book the woodcut was copied from, but without a reliable source telling us that it's original research. Fences&Windows 03:35, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
As for confusing, this wording is far too complex for a reader who wants to know about the logo of a coffee company: "Though technically the heraldic charge employed as Starbucks' logo is a melusine displayed, crowned or...". "Heraldic charge"? "displayed, crowned or"? "Employed as"? We're writing a general encyclopedia here; give the poor reader a chance. None of that information is relevant. The current text includes the magic word "melusine", which I added a couple of months ago after sourcing that article by Ann Rippin. Fences&Windows 03:48, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Has someone any info about the new starbucks in Tiranne?Villick (talk) 14:08, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Nanami Madobe
May 23, 2008

I love animal porn! So F* you if you don't accept that!

Rufo posted:

nooooooooooo what happened to ur av :(

theres still my sig :hr:

Cheers, 50 Foot Ant, for giving me the fat Nanami avatar.

tripwire
Nov 19, 2004

        ghost flow
which you inexplicably have to enable each time??? whats the thinking there

tripwire
Nov 19, 2004

        ghost flow
ajghf

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Blotto Skorzany
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip
tripwire what happen why can't you fyad anymore :/

click

tripwire
Nov 19, 2004

        ghost flow

Otto Skorzeny posted:

tripwire what happen why can't you fyad anymore :/

if you post in ycs or lf or byob a certain threshold of post per unknown period of time, you get "forum cancer" unless u donate 7bucks to lowtax alimony fund

you can't post in fyad and every time you click on a thread in any forum thats not ycs/lf/byob it randomly redirects you to an annoying loud flash page

Blotto Skorzany
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip
o i didnt know the cancer poo poo stopped you from fyading

radiums kind of a fag

Nanami Madobe
May 23, 2008

I love animal porn! So F* you if you don't accept that!

tripwire posted:

ajghf

is that by hernando? it's cool and trippy

Sultan of Swing
Mar 3, 2008

by Ozma

tripwire posted:

if you post in ycs or lf or byob a certain threshold of post per unknown period of time, you get "forum cancer" unless u donate 7bucks to lowtax alimony fund

you can't post in fyad and every time you click on a thread in any forum thats not ycs/lf/byob it randomly redirects you to an annoying loud flash page

why'd they get divorced anyway. was his wife driving him up the wall?

well hopefully she wasn't actually driving...

dorsh
Jul 27, 2004

Nanami Madobe
May 23, 2008

I love animal porn! So F* you if you don't accept that!

dorsh posted:


sesh
Aug 19, 2010

Jonny 290 posted:

keep snyping; you dont have to report back

Yes! Nice.

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

you know what wikipedia really, really needs?

a list of criticisms often directed at Strawberry Shortcake

Wikipedia posted:

General inconsistencies

A criticism from long-time fans is the inconsistency and retconning of characters, pets, scents, etc. that exists between the vintage franchise from the 1980s and the current franchise. Some examples are:

Character names - Raspberry Tart's name was changed to Raspberry Torte. Almond Tea's name was changed to Tea Blossom. Banana Twirl and Lime Chiffon have been replaced by new, rather different characters, Banana Candy and Lime Light, respectively.

Pets - Pupcake now belongs to Strawberry instead of Huck[4] (who now has Shoofly Frog[5]). Angel Cake no longer has Souffle skunk, but instead a lamb named Vanilla Icing[5]. Lemon Meringue's pet frog, Frappe, is replaced by Sourball the skunk (possibly explained by the switching of Souffle skunk to Vanilla Icing for Angel Cake and switching of Pupcake to Shoofly Frog for Huck). Apple Dumplin's turtle, Teatime, is replaced by Apple Ducklin'[5]. Rhubarb, Raspberry's pet, changed from a monkey to a raccoon. This might be explained by the existence of Banana Bongo (Tangerina Torta's monkey), although Banana Bongo himself was originally introduced as the leader of a monkey band on Seaberry Beach during the story introducing Coco Calypso and Seaberry Delight [6].

Relationships - Previously unmentioned sibling pairs keep popping up, such as Strawberry Shortcake and Apple Dumplin'[4] and The Purple Pie Man and Sour Grapes[7]. There is also some confusion about the relationship between Crepes Suzette and the younger, recently introduced Cherry Cuddler. Both have cherry scents and early promotional materials indicated that they are sisters. However, the box for the Playmates doll set indicates they are merely friends.

Playmates' acquisition of the licenses

In 2006, Bandai lost the rights of the franchise to Playmates. Upon acquiring the license, Playmates started making changes to the directions of the franchise.

Availability - Fans have noticed that since Playmates' acquisition of license to the franchise, merchandise has become scarce, especially in regions outside North America.

Scents - Playmates' introduction of the 2006 toy line is very loose with the linked scents that have been traditional in this franchise. Examples include cherry used for Crepes Suzette and Grape used for Tea Blossom.

Fillies/Ponies - In early 2007, Playmates introduced three new ponies, but these are different from the previous Strawberryland Fillies. The ponies belong to Strawberry Shortcake, Angel Cake, and Crepes Suzette, and are aligned with the Berries to Blossoms doll line. The Honey Pie Pony and Milkshake names are not used and neither pony looks like the fillies previously linked to Strawberry and Angel. The new ponies are not given names of their own.

that's only half, there's still some very in-depth, bizarre spergin' about the Strawberry Shortcake television show

Wikipedia posted:

Some people were disappointed with the absence of The Purple Pie Man in the TV series. However, others applauded the removal of villains from the series and were disappointed with the reintroduction of the Pie Man in the Sweet Dreams Movie, preferring that the series be kept in its current format: an educational, slice-of-life program similar to Arthur or Caillou. Two camps clearly exist on this issue: There are fans (adults and children alike) that love the inclusion of antagonists such as Purple Pie Man, Sour Grapes and Licorice Whip. These fans would like these to continue, and to see more of them in movies, books, and toys. However, there are others who feel that the inclusion (or re-inclusion) of villains in the show takes away from the primary focus on Strawberry and her friends, as well as eroding the educational content of the show, and would prefer the show and franchise be kept villain-free[8][9].

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

If you use the words "canon" and "retcon" you might be greasy nerd.

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!

qirex posted:

If you use the words "canon" and "retcon" you might be greasy nerd.

maniacdevnull
Apr 18, 2007

FOUR CUBIC FRAMES
DISPROVES SOFT G GOD
YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID

There are fans (adults and children alike)

Coffee Jones
Jul 4, 2004

16 bit? Back when we was kids we only got a single bit on Christmas, as a treat
And we had to share it!

Otto Skorzeny posted:

o i didnt know the cancer poo poo stopped you from fyading

radiums kind of a fag

Yeah, well, it's not like weird random 'purges' are anything new here.


Sultan of Swing posted:

why'd they get divorced anyway. was his wife driving him up the wall?
ha ha ha two (three?) kids in tow
-> don't speculate on Dear Richard's personal life,
-> don't ask how the forums are run

Coffee Jones fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Sep 7, 2010

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

maniacdevnull posted:

There are fans (adults and children alike)

"Dad, this cartoon lacks a primary antagonist!" - a child

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

the Strawberry Shortcake talk page is a hotbed of dissent and discussion

Wikipedia posted:

Removal of Ginger Snaps Ethnicity

I have removed the following section of the article as it is poorly written and doesn't seem to have any basis apart from a rumour at an elementary school. and a local newspaper article.

Is Ginger Snap Bengali? Recently, a rumour spread in Lane Elementary School (located in Alexandria, Virginia) that Ginger Snap was a Bengali or Indian girl. Also, the claim may be false since a ginger snap is originally a European cookie.

An article written in the Alexandria Herald (a new little-known newspaper in Alexandria) stated that Ginger Snap is, in fact, from some Islamic country. But the claim could be true: even though she doesn't wear traditional Bengali clothes, she could qualify. But she's definitely not Hispanic or Caucasian. Recently an unknown Wikipedia user posted that Ginger Snap was "hispanic" [sic], but it's not valid, probably.

Even if Ginger Snap is Islamic, there's no guarantee.

     If you want my two cents on this topic, I consider Ginger Snap Italian. In the new TV show her catch-phrase is "Oh, Macaroonio", which to me, sounds rather      Italian.RAM 02:20, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

As seen on a French website, official clipart features Ginger Snap in traditional Native American garb. Thus, it is safe to assume she is Native American. I fail to see how this was ever relevant, however. Clearly, Ginger Snap, Orange Blossom and Angel Cake represent three different ethnicities in Strawberry's closest circle of pals. Anyone can see that without the specific ethnicities being identified. There might as well have been a debate as to whether or not Lemon Meringue is albino. ~ Sour Grapes 10:19, 28 October 2008

Feel free to re-write the section in encyclopediaec terms if/when you have found more basis for this section, but overall it doesn't seem necessary. --Rachel Cakes 04:50, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia posted:

Watch out for corporate plant!

Watch out! There's someone constantly trying to remove information from this article. I suspect it's a "plant" from American Greetings, trying to cover up their mess-up with Penny Arcade. - Stormwatch 14:16, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

NPOV

There is no “plant”. There is only people trying to keep your type of amusement away from children. It would seem to me that you can make your own page on this site to give your opinion about what you think is right and wrong. Adults have possibly sat down with their daughter, niece, or granddaughter to show them some of the cartoons they watched as a child. What would you like them to find.—This unsigned comment was added by 70.37.128.30 (talk • contribs) 2006 March 20 11:30 UTC.

It's quite clear that you are a corporate plant. What else am I to take from the fact that you edited the discussion section to remove the signature that was added to your comment by a moderator?! And what about the fact that almost all of your countributions to Wikipedia were the removal of this specific piece of information from this specific article? Of course, you could also be just an annoying prudish troll... - Stormwatch 02:32, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

All right, what do you think about it now? - Stormwatch 20:45, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Sperglord posted:

Mixing fact and fiction

This excerpt is a bad sign:

She was first released in 1980, then relaunched in 1991 and 2002. In Strawberryland, nobody EVER dies or even gets sick. Locks are illegal, there are no thieves, everything is free, and you get Christmas presents whether you're naughty or nice. Also, it's illegal to punish.

It mixes the actual history of the toy and facts about its fictional world. They should be separated sections. - Stormwatch 20:49, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

It sounds like somebody just made it up. KinseyLOL 20:22, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

It's ridiculous. A character on this series can get sick --- prime example --- Honey Pie Pony --- "Get Well Adventure." Of course nobody is going to be shown dying on the show --- it's a children's-targeted television series, only rarely do characters on such shows die. "It's illegal to punish" --- patent nonsense. Obviously, a system of laws has never been explored on the show. Agent0042 04:40, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree with that comment; it's crapshoot to make a TV show for toddlers that depict death and murder; it would be like Grand Theft Auto with Strawberry Shortcake getting "Wasted" after a few shots of AK-47 ammo at her. And the "Locks are illegal, there are no thieves, everything is free, and you get Christmas presents whether you're naughty or nice" lines sounded like as if Strawberryland allows warez groups and other boys doing illegal stuff to thrive in there. Sorry for the AK-47 lines, but I think the excerpt is just plain biased and unencyclopedic. Blake Gripling 10:21, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Sep 7, 2010

cleanhands
Jun 9, 2010

My opinions, though not completely awful are expressed in a tiresome and needlessly aggressive way. Please help me to chill out.

qirex posted:

If you use the words "canon" and "retcon" you might be greasy nerd.

Tell that to the dorkroom guys :colbert:

JawnV6
Jul 4, 2004

So hot ...

RZApublican posted:

the Strawberry Shortcake talk page is a hotbed of dissent and discussion

thank god someone is including alexandria-based elementary school rumors into our Compendium of Human Knol

maniacdevnull
Apr 18, 2007

FOUR CUBIC FRAMES
DISPROVES SOFT G GOD
YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID

This edit [1] by user Kyereh Mireku [2] removed the "History" section -- which happens to be the single most informative and relevant part of the article! - Stormwatch 23:39, 27 August 2006 (UTC)



you cant delete the history section YOU WILL REGRET THIS

Smugdog Millionaire
Sep 14, 2002

8) Blame Icefrog
Tokyo Mew Mew is a Japanese shōjo manga series written by Reiko Yoshida and illustrated by Mia Ikumi.

The Harvard Comma
Apr 21, 2009

Highlights of his global tour include encounters with Nelson Mandela, an 800-year-old demigod and a dildo collector.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_joke

literally just a list of math jokes that some wikipedians were funny with super terse explanations of each for the neurotypicals

i just wish i could copy everything on that page and paste it here

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

The Harvard Comma posted:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_joke

literally just a list of math jokes that some wikipedians were funny with super terse explanations of each for the neurotypicals

i just wish i could copy everything on that page and paste it here

complete with an animated gif someone created specifically to explain one of them

The Harvard Comma
Apr 21, 2009

Highlights of his global tour include encounters with Nelson Mandela, an 800-year-old demigod and a dildo collector.
and the talk page is just more awful jokes

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

explaining jokes is the only non-subjective way to convey humor, the more detailed the more clear you are about how humorous it is

Phenwah
Feb 3, 2003

.

Phenwah fucked around with this message at 22:37 on May 5, 2023

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

tripwire
Nov 19, 2004

        ghost flow
I'm pretty sure that picture is worth something for its educational value in teaching what homeomorphism means

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
http://booksllc.net/

ok its not on wikipedia but they basically make books out of wikipedia articles and sell them on amazon and other places

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

tripwire posted:

I'm pretty sure that picture is worth something for its educational value in teaching what homeomorphism means

it was on the maths joke page on the wiki
i found to reference to it in the text

Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.
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The Evan
Nov 29, 2004

Apple ][ Cash Money

i guess the dark lord must be loving facetime

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