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I like how he labels Palmiero and Sheffield as "non-superstars" when both are comfortably above the 60 WAR threshold he set just two paragraphs earlier.
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# ? Sep 18, 2010 12:56 |
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Bob Shabazz posted:Players that Cameron thinks have "good, not great" offensive production: Wrong, Griffey played for Seattle
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# ? Sep 18, 2010 13:54 |
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I can't quite point out the way that article is stupid, but I know it is. It has intangible stupidity.
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# ? Sep 18, 2010 14:29 |
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Badfinger posted:I can't quite point out the way that article is stupid, but I know it is. Because Adam Dunn isn't near the end of his career. He hasn't even put in 10 years of service time. It's pretty goofy to write an article like that when the only possible conclusion is ~time will tell~.
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# ? Sep 18, 2010 16:51 |
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trem_two posted:I like how he labels Palmiero and Sheffield as "non-superstars" when both are comfortably above the 60 WAR threshold he set just two paragraphs earlier. How old is Cameron? Sheffield was a legitimate superstar. So was Palmeiro.
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# ? Sep 18, 2010 17:42 |
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leokitty posted:Because Adam Dunn isn't near the end of his career. He hasn't even put in 10 years of service time. It's pretty goofy to write an article like that when the only possible conclusion is ~time will tell~. also his career OBP is .381 and Cameron talks about him like he's just a home run hitter or something
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# ? Sep 18, 2010 18:18 |
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stuart scott irl posted:also his career OBP is .381 and Cameron talks about him like he's just a home run hitter or something Well he also doesn't seem to know how loving good Gary Sheffield was so I just ignored that whole thing.
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# ? Sep 18, 2010 18:22 |
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leokitty posted:Because Adam Dunn isn't near the end of his career. He hasn't even put in 10 years of service time. It's pretty goofy to write an article like that when the only possible conclusion is ~time will tell~. Oh yeah, I know. To be honest, reading that I thought "Who is a current hall of famer that consistently hit 35-40 home runs and got on base at a pretty high clip?" and my answer was Hank Aaron. I don't actually think that's a good comp for Dunn, but consistent high power with consistent high on base percentage is pretty loving valuable and Dunn's good at it. His hitter profile hasn't particularly changed since he was 23 years old.
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# ? Sep 18, 2010 20:50 |
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Hahah, "If he hits 500 homers, and is presumed to have done so while “clean”," well argument over there. *Puts Sammy Sosa in the hall of fame*
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# ? Sep 18, 2010 22:06 |
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I just read a post on Fangraphs that is "Mariano Rivera is a good pitcher because he does whatever he wants with his pitches" (not as true for the two seamer but you get my point). I guess I'm supposed to be impressed by the color maps but it contains zero new info. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/riveras-cutters-working-the-count/ e: There's a chance I'm also tired of seeing 7,000 articles about Mariano. It's like everyone's backup. Hey, let's put up something about how Mariano is a freak leokitty fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Sep 20, 2010 |
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leokitty posted:I just read a post on Fangraphs that is "Mariano Rivera is a good pitcher because he does whatever he wants with his pitches" (not as true for the two seamer but you get my point). I guess I'm supposed to be impressed by the color maps but it contains zero new info. that's also by Albert Lyu, who I'm trying to work with right now. He's 21 and knows how to use some MySQL tricks, but seems a little gunshy about delving into the cooler stuff.
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# ? Sep 20, 2010 20:11 |
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Yeah I mean the hot spot graphs are cool, the guys who do Pending Pinstripes use them a lot. It's just info that a huge amount of outlets have already done, in even cooler ways. Like the NY Times and that big writeup.
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# ? Sep 20, 2010 20:13 |
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ah, I see
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# ? Sep 20, 2010 20:14 |
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the most irrelevant article in the history of sports http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_bianchi/2010/09/peyton-manning-eli-manning-colts-giants-gators.html
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# ? Sep 20, 2010 20:39 |
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I've tried to do heat maps before with pitch f/x stuff for MY BLOG and have failed miserably. Is there a way to do it in R or something? Because Excel just isn't up to the task. lol nevermind I just googled it stuart scott fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Sep 20, 2010 |
# ? Sep 20, 2010 20:39 |
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I was driving so I don't have an exact quote, but Mike Francesa thinks the 2010 Yankees probably have the greatest infield of all-time.
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# ? Sep 20, 2010 20:55 |
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jeffersonlives posted:I was driving so I don't have an exact quote, but Mike Francesa thinks the 2010 Yankees probably have the greatest infield of all-time. Last years was better by a lot and even then I don't think that's true
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# ? Sep 20, 2010 21:01 |
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Nodoze posted:Last years was better by a lot and even then I don't think that's true His rationale was, again paraphrasing, "three guys already have 100 ribbies with two weeks left, and the fourth is The Captain and we all know what he brings to the table!"
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# ? Sep 20, 2010 21:09 |
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I thought this was originally in this thread but it was in the NFL N/V thread. Definitely deserves to be here though: "Are NFL Head Coaches Benching Black QBs Faster Than White QBs?" (thanks japtor) Chock full of amazing sports journalism and scientific resesarch.
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# ? Sep 20, 2010 21:13 |
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The Fire Joe Morgan guys are posting on Deadspin today, hitting lovely articles from the last year or so. So far they've got a post up on a Jim Caple article arguing that runs (!) are the best stat to evaluate a hitter by and another by Mitch Albom talking about how you should go to a game in person instead of sitting at your computer.
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# ? Sep 22, 2010 16:18 |
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They seem to be doing OK this year so far. Last year it was sort of tryhard Prioresque stuff.
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# ? Sep 22, 2010 16:21 |
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Man this Jim Caple article is so loving stupid I can't even understand. I've never really read anything on espn.com before. Please tell me this is worse than usual. He spends 3 paragraphs not realizing he's countering his own argument.
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# ? Sep 22, 2010 16:54 |
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No Safe Word posted:I thought this was originally in this thread but it was in the NFL N/V thread. Definitely deserves to be here though: I was gonna say, there has to be non-baseball stupidity out there, and this satisfies my request! Lordy! This guy is paid by the SFGate?? I know it's a blog and it says on the side that it's not edited by the staff, but good lord, are they reading what's being churned out?? THE MACHO MAN fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Sep 22, 2010 |
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How does Steve Rushin get work?quote:When a sportswriter stops writing about sports for three years, part of him goes into hibernation (tuning out the games), while part of him misses the metaphorical microphone that used to be his (but may never be again). At least that's how I sometimes felt during my absence from sportswriting: Half Rip Van Winkle (who slept for 20 years), half Rob Van Winkle (real name of Vanilla Ice).
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# ? Sep 22, 2010 17:24 |
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Copernic posted:someone mind buying this as an av for me?
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# ? Sep 22, 2010 17:39 |
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Copernic posted:How does Steve Rushin get work? that's written like poo poo but it's not even like top 100 also the point that people always unnecessarily say The National Football League is one I agree with so that may be clouding my judgment.
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# ? Sep 22, 2010 18:23 |
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Copernic posted:How does Steve Rushin get work? It's a good thing he made clear he was quoting Mark Twain (not Roger). For a second there I thought HGH would improve both my prose and my fastball.
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# ? Sep 22, 2010 18:29 |
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jeffersonlives posted:I was driving so I don't have an exact quote, but Mike Francesa thinks the 2010 Yankees probably have the greatest infield of all-time. http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/PHA/1913.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MIL/1982.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CIN/1975.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BRO/1951.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/2009.shtml
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# ? Sep 22, 2010 18:35 |
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Male. Bi. Unix. posted:http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/PHA/1913.shtml And if you want to include defense this one might have them all beat: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYM/1999.shtml
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# ? Sep 22, 2010 18:37 |
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The FJM reunion killed HatGuy. http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38832689/ns/sports/
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# ? Sep 22, 2010 19:24 |
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Copernic posted:How does Steve Rushin get work? Steve Rushin lives 4 houses down my street. He's a pretty cool dude. That article honestly doesn't seem that horrible, its just typical sportswriting really.
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# ? Sep 22, 2010 19:49 |
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Quizero posted:Steve Rushin lives 4 houses down my street. He's a pretty cool dude. That article honestly doesn't seem that horrible, its just typical sportswriting really. Yeah, I get much more annoyed when people say idiotic things that have no backing at all, like the black QB one on this page, or people saying Vick has come of age after a game against the Lions, and expect him to continue playing wildly above his career averages all season
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# ? Sep 22, 2010 20:09 |
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Y'all missed the most bizarre thing from FJM day so far: http://deadspin.com/5644328/is-this-normal It's about a Gregg Doyel article that references Joe Morgan and I'll just let you read it for yourself for the surprise twist about halfway through.
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# ? Sep 22, 2010 21:18 |
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Crazy Ted posted:Y'all missed the most bizarre thing from FJM day so far: http://deadspin.com/5644328/is-this-normal that mental image I guess you just can't make this stuff up
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# ? Sep 22, 2010 21:33 |
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We all still enjoy good journalism, right? Because Andy Staples' story on the Fort Campbell (KY) High football team certainly qualifies.
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# ? Sep 23, 2010 06:05 |
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toadee posted:Man this Jim Caple article is so loving stupid I can't even understand. I've never really read anything on espn.com before. Please tell me this is worse than usual. He spends 3 paragraphs not realizing he's countering his own argument. He's done some decent writing before (nothing that really makes him an ace columnist, in my opinion, which is why he remains stuck on Page 2), but that article was the most piece I've read in a while. I cannot believe an editor allowed that to be published on the internet.
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# ? Sep 23, 2010 06:36 |
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Valdez might make Rollins expendablequote:The question that no one wants to ask: Does it have to be Jayson Werth who leaves, and not Jimmy Rollins? Yes, because Rollins is not going to try to sign a new contract at 15m AAV when his FA value has never been higher. Way to become so enamored with an awful hitter who plays pretty good defense that you'd want to replace one of the league's better and most durable (outside of this year) shortstops. Way to use the argument that Rollins is old, and suggest replacing him with a player THAT IS OLDER.
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# ? Sep 24, 2010 14:33 |
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Badfinger posted:
I thought you were talking about Rollins Seriously though, the way Philly fandom latches on to replacement level players and becomes obsessed with their "contributions" is loving maddening. Everyone loving LOVES Valdez right now.
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# ? Sep 24, 2010 16:18 |
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stuart scott irl posted:I thought you were talking about Rollins I'm not pretending Rollins is a wonderful hitter, but compared to Valdez he's a much better hitter and he plays much better defense. He just hasn't twirled around turning double plays much. Shortstop's some kind of awful offensive black hole this year. There are 22 shortstops that qualify for the batting title. Tulo's amazing, Hanley's very good, Drew is good, everyone else starts the slippery slide down to Ceasar Izturis and his .555 OPS. Rollins is having a cruddy year but he's still about Jeter's level, and that's a top 10 shortstop this year. His career OPS is .764, his OPS the last 3 years is .738. I would honestly take that in 600 PAs from a shortstop right now. (Just not hitting leadoff. If Rollins hit 7th I wouldn't complain much about him.) Vvvv It's not his fault! Uncle Cholly, you don't have to bat your worst leadoff hitter leadoff. It is not written in his goddamn contract. Badfinger fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Sep 24, 2010 |
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Yeah, his defense is good enough that he's still fine as a starting SS. I just hate that he leads off. All. the goddamned. time.
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