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Fuzz posted:I'm playing through B right now, and are all the "new additions" just walls of text about Kaine interspersed into all the poo poo you did before, or does the story actually change a lot? The beauty of ending B is that very little actually changes. The only thing that changes is the context of your actions. It is the most heartbreaking thing I have ever played. Go hug your parents or something before you play too much.
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Frankosity posted:Did anyone else find the two-handers kind of unwieldy in general? I picked up the Phoenix Spear quite early on in the second half and just ended up using that and the Phoenix Dagger for massed enemies. Although I picked up enough junk to upgrade Iron Will to level 3 at which point it became powerful enough to demolish basically anything through my C and D playthroughs. I just stuck to the Beastlord. Looks badass, and 2-handed swords are really satisfying to use for some reason. V  V
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Oct 7, 2010 19:22
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Technique posted:I just stuck to the Beastlord. Looks badass, and 2-handed swords are really satisfying to use for some reason. V You clearly don't have a fully upgraded Labyrinth Song, because that thing is hilariously overpowered. Personally I find I use spears the most, but that's because they're quick and that dash attack rules. Also in regards to the cutscenes changing... do any of the boss lead-in cutscenes change, because I hear they count towards the timer for the trophies, and I wanted to grab those trophies this time through... only got 2 of them last time.
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Oct 7, 2010 20:00
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Fuzz posted:You clearly don't have a fully upgraded Labyrinth Song, because that thing is hilariously overpowered. Personally I find I use spears the most, but that's because they're quick and that dash attack rules. Just do it slow the first time, and then reload and go fast, or vice versa...that's what I did.
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Oct 7, 2010 20:04
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There's a two hander sword you get from the DLC called Fool's Lament that just 1 hits everything in the game including most bosses, I use that for everything.
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Oct 7, 2010 20:08
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Fuzz posted:You clearly don't have a fully upgraded Labyrinth Song, because that thing is hilariously overpowered. Personally I find I use spears the most, but that's because they're quick and that dash attack rules. Most cutscenes change, don't skip any cutscenes until you're going for Ending C.
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Oct 7, 2010 21:18
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Oh goddamnit, I just got to the big battle in the village and Kaine decided to sacrifice herself. gently caress this game.  .
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Oct 8, 2010 00:17
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Capsaicin posted:If you're using that emote now, you're going to be slitting your wrists later on.
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Oct 8, 2010 00:20
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Dominic White posted:If you're using that emote now, you're going to be slitting your wrists later on. For real. That part is pretty much the uplifting high point of the game, dude.
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Oct 8, 2010 00:41
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That part is an example of something that kind of bugged me about the game: Why is it that Kaine is always the one getting stabbed, petrified, impaled, knocked out, and whatever the hell else happens to her? Seriously, it seemed like every other cutscene took Kaine out of commission in one way or another so that Nier and Emil could have something to cry about after they defeat a boss.
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Oct 8, 2010 00:57
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THE CHORSE posted:That part is an example of something that kind of bugged me about the game: Why is it that Kaine is always the one getting stabbed, petrified, impaled, knocked out, and whatever the hell else happens to her? Seriously, it seemed like every other cutscene took Kaine out of commission in one way or another so that Nier and Emil could have something to cry about after they defeat a boss. I'm not even done with my B playthrough, but did you just not pay attention to the character of Kaine at all throughout the game or something? It's not surprising at all.
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Oct 8, 2010 02:03
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Okay, so after the halfway point of no return, if I didn't get all the weapons I could before then/do all the quests, am I hosed from the secret endings?
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Oct 8, 2010 03:23
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Capsaicin posted:Okay, so after the halfway point of no return, if I didn't get all the weapons I could before then/do all the quests, am I hosed from the secret endings? Not in the slightest. There's no missable weapons in the first half of the game and the quests only matter for trophies (read: nothing).
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Oct 8, 2010 03:25
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Capsaicin posted:Okay, so after the halfway point of no return, if I didn't get all the weapons I could before then/do all the quests, am I hosed from the secret endings? As far as I remember, there's only 1 missable weapon (Faith, if for some reason you didn't do those text adventure quests) and you can buy it later at The Aerie
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Oct 8, 2010 03:26
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Okay, and can I just sell all the stuff I garden?
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Oct 8, 2010 03:28
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Capsaicin posted:Please keep posting, I would like to feed on your tears later. tia
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Oct 8, 2010 03:33
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Cap, every single thing you're saying will just lead to further heartbreak down the line. And it's delicious.
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Oct 8, 2010 03:45
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Fuzz posted:I'm not even done with my B playthrough, but did you just not pay attention to the character of Kaine at all throughout the game or something? It's not surprising at all. No, it isn't surprising, but that was precisely the problem - I could see every single instance coming a mile away and it was more than a little repetitive. Honestly, there were about three sources of drama in this game, they just rehashed them again and again and again.
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Oct 8, 2010 03:54
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Oct 8, 2010 04:52
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Capsaicin posted:Do the sidequests for Devola while she's singing in the bar count? Those aren't special sidequests, she just tells you what sidequests are available somewhere in the world at that given moment. If she has no jobs for you, that means there are no quests anywhere in the world. However, if she has multiple jobs, you might as well take them all one by one so you can see the map markers for where to get them, because you can go grab them all right now and have them all active, you don't have to do them one at a time. That's sort of how she was intended to be used, I think.
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Oct 8, 2010 05:20
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Interestingly enough there are some quests that simply don't activate until you talk to her. I remember getting stuck with some of the Mailman quests in the waterfront town with them not activating, but then was told to go back to him after talking to Popola. So it definitely pays off to talk to her.
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Oct 8, 2010 05:23
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Capsaicin posted:Edit: Also, any ideas on where pink moonflower seeds are? Unless you have a desperate desire to grind and change the system clock, I would ignore any and all requests for moonflowers. You see you have to plant the base colors in a special way in your garden and have them grow. This takes 24 hours. Then you have to check if a 10% chance new color occurred. If it did, hooray, grind for multiple cycles to build up a huge collection of the seeds. If not, keep going with step 1. After you get all the tier 2 colors, you repeat the steps but now with a 1% chance of producing the color you need. This will result in the flower you need, which of course still needs to be planted several days worth to get the bulbs. Unless you must have 100% completion, just don't do this quest.
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Oct 8, 2010 05:27
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Ah, okay. I'm in Junk Heap right now looking for a poo poo-ton of stuff. Titanium alloy, mysterious switches, etc.
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Oct 8, 2010 05:30
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Capsaicin posted:I'm in Junk Heap right now looking for a poo poo-ton of stuff. Titanium alloy, mysterious switches, etc. If you're willing to pay money to speed this up considerably, the DLC features areas which basically do nothing but spray out the mechanical item drops, including the rarer and much more annoying to collect ones. Plus its a little bit of nifty back story and some great music. Otherwise even with luck boosting words equipped you'll be running that dungeon till you look as haggard as Nier since some of the items are rare drops of rare enemies.
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Oct 8, 2010 05:39
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Barudak posted:Unless you have a desperate desire to grind and change the system clock, I would ignore any and all requests for moonflowers. I don't get this complaint. You don't really have to grind, you just have to bounty fertilizer all 15 spots, then alternate for whichever type of offshoot you want. Once you get at least one of that type and it dies and you get some seeds (with bounty, probably 4-6 seeds) then you just replant those seeds with more bounty and do another cycle and you'll like quintuple your seed stash, at least. It takes like 3 swaps in and out with clock changes to get Pink moonflowers, and from there it only takes one more to get a white one and the trophy.
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Oct 8, 2010 05:43
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Fuzz posted:I don't get this complaint. You don't really have to grind, you just have to bounty fertilizer all 15 spots, then alternate for whichever type of offshoot you want. Once you get at least one of that type and it dies and you get some seeds (with bounty, probably 4-6 seeds) then you just replant those seeds with more bounty and do another cycle and you'll like quintuple your seed stash, at least. It takes like 3 swaps in and out with clock changes to get Pink moonflowers, and from there it only takes one more to get a white one and the trophy. Yeah, with the clock shenanigans it took me less than an hour to get all the pink and white moonseeds I needed, along with a shitload of money.
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Crowbear posted:Yeah, with the clock shenanigans it took me less than an hour to get all the pink and white moonseeds I needed, along with a shitload of money. Thats why I mentioned the clock alterations, although I think I did a poor job of it. Without them its just too tedious to even consider. Personally, though, even with clock alterations it was boring as hell to click plots of land over and over again and the quest certainly didn't feel like it was worth investing the time necessary.
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Oct 8, 2010 05:56
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Okay, can someone explain words to me? I'm mostly using the +phys attack on my weapons, +magic attack on my magics, and +knockback resist on my "martial arts". The secondary words on everything is my highest item find word. Do the item find words stack? Do they only count on currently equipped weapons/magic? How do my martial arts words take effect? Only when I use defend or evade?
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Oct 8, 2010 09:19
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Honestly I don't think anything word-related made any appreciable difference to me in the entire game. Maybe I just didn't have good enough words.
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Oct 8, 2010 09:20
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Okay, I was just given the choice of going to the Junk Heap or the Forest of Myth. I went to the Junk Heap. There, I went through the dungeon again, got the memory alloy, fought like, four giant robots, and then went back to the guy at the shop. He said he'd repair that blade and send me a letter. Was I supposed to find a piece of that rock there?
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Oct 8, 2010 10:35
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Head off and do something else for a bit. I think there's a set amount of time before the letter shows up.
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Capsaicin posted:Okay, I was just given the choice of going to the Junk Heap or the Forest of Myth. I went to the Junk Heap. There, I went through the dungeon again, got the memory alloy, fought like, four giant robots, and then went back to the guy at the shop. He said he'd repair that blade and send me a letter. Was I supposed to find a piece of that rock there? No, a couple of the places (Junk Heap and Facade) are two parts. So go do another story bit. Then he'll send you the letter and you'll go back and complete that area.
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Oct 8, 2010 12:08
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It's cool that the game is getting another OST because that means it didn't do as badly as I thought
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Oct 8, 2010 13:58
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In my opinion, Nier's soundtrack is one of the best video game soundtracks since Shadow of the Colossus. It's great news that the soundtrack is popular enough to warrant a second OST release. I hope that the composer gets a lot more work in the future.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:It's cool that the game is getting another OST because that means it didn't do as badly as I thought I recall reading that it actually sold pretty well - debuted straight in at #1 in Japan. Unfortunately, it seems that Cavia were doomed, no matter what happened sales-wise.
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Capsaicin posted:Okay, can someone explain words to me? Xythar posted:Honestly I don't think anything word-related made any appreciable difference to me in the entire game. Maybe I just didn't have good enough words. I dunno, the LugXXX words ruled on all the Magic, particularly at the end when you have -20% and -30% magic usage words. Sometimes in a pinch that extra juice can be the one extra Lance you needed to kill that boss painlessly without having to gently caress around. The status words, even at level 7, seemed lovely to me. Only decent one was maybe Paralyze, since it actually stops enemies in their tracks. Poison doesn't do damage fast enough, Confuse doesn't do anything as far as I could tell, and HP Drain barely heals you, even at level 7. I only got an MP drain word like right at the end of the game, so I didn't really get to try it out. Plus by the end you're killing most things in 2-3 hits, so the chances of you A- needing those status effects, and B- them actually going off, were basically nonexistent. I mostly ran around with the +EXP or the +Item words on all my weapons... after a certain point the +Item is pointless since you're maxed on everything and it doesn't seem to affect how likely rare poo poo will drop, so using it in a place like the Junk Heap is pointless since everything always drops something. Fuzz fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Oct 8, 2010 |
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Oct 8, 2010 18:37
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I just did "Use Best" for every word option.
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Oct 8, 2010 22:39
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Do I need to 100% the game for anything cool or can I ignore most of the sidequests and just do the main story?
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Oct 8, 2010 22:44
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Mandrill posted:Do I need to 100% the game for anything cool or can I ignore most of the sidequests and just do the main story? 100% gets you nothing more than an achievement. Nothing in game terms other than quest specific character interactions.
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If the game detects that you have the platinum for this game and also the platinum for Replicant, you get to see the secret ending where a bunch of nude babies do things I don't know
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