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The only person I want to see in a sword fight against Jeanne is Jones.
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wdarkk posted:Another random theory: someone mentioned that there wasn't an "order" deity to serve as a mirror to Coyote. I'm going to postulate that the mechanical birds either were made by or are collectively said deity. If you believe Ms Donlan, the court doesn't know anything about them and have NEVER been able to catch one. I just assumed the tic tocs were tied to whoever Mr. Donlan was talking about here: http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=401
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Oct 8, 2010 01:38
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Micgael posted:I just assumed the tic tocs were tied to whoever Mr. Donlan was talking about here: http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=401 Huh, I always thought it was "You could always ask ... Annie to let you tag along." However, the way she's holding the eye makes it seem important.
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Oct 8, 2010 01:46
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I just finished reading through the archives and enjoyed every minute of it. I can't wait to see Coyote cause something to happen that pisses everyone off only to be revealed later that he was actually helping them tremendously and laughing about it the whole time.
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Oct 8, 2010 04:33
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FredT.E.C. posted:I just finished reading through the archives and enjoyed every minute of it. Coyote would be just as happy if it ruined everybody tremendously, though. He's Coyote.
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Oct 8, 2010 05:02
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Pardon my moment of wild speculation, but:
So I think Raven is going to show up eventually, and he's going to be a huge catalyst for some of the events we've seen.
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Oct 8, 2010 06:08
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http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=775 What are those strips of pale color on each side? I was originally thinking forcefield but I'm not really sure.
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Oct 8, 2010 06:25
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Aw, Tea is ragging on himself again in the caption for the latest update.  vv yeah i guess they're objectively weird in context with the rest of the art... Fecha fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Oct 8, 2010 |
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Oct 8, 2010 08:13
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Aw I thought it was a cute nod.
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Oct 8, 2010 08:27
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Brannock posted:http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=775 It's symbolism!
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Oct 8, 2010 08:32
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Fecha posted:Aw, Tea is ragging on himself again in the caption for the latest update. With good reason! That football-shaped head haunts my dreams. . . (seriously though Mr. Siddell, your art is fan-freaking-tastic in all respects other than that football-shaped head, even in the early chapters.)
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Oct 8, 2010 09:04
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DontMockMySmock posted:With good reason! That football-shaped head haunts my dreams. . . I'm sorry that you feel that way, because objecting to stylistic decisions must make reading comics or watching cartoons exceptionally difficult for you. And Hey Arnold wasn't a bad show.
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Oct 8, 2010 10:32
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Oh come on, don't get overly defensive over a webcomic that even the person who drew it thinks looked weird in the early chapters, that's no way to be. Hey Arnold was pretty great, though.
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Oct 8, 2010 10:39
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Yeah, there's little doubt that it looked weird at the start, but the art got better FAST, and now it's just drat good.
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Oct 8, 2010 13:12
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Parley looks pissed, poo poo's about to go down I love the catch-up panels that Tea-San uses, like in today's comic.
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Oct 8, 2010 14:32
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Mirage posted:Pardon my moment of wild speculation, but: I hope you're right because Raven is the best native american god by miles. I have a book of raven stories I bought when I was in Canada and they are brilliant. It makes sense as well because the raven is kind of the creator and protector of Humans so that would explain his link to the court side of things. a pipe smoking dog fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Oct 9, 2010 |
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Oct 9, 2010 02:41
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I always wonder if people ever manage to guess the plot and reveals successfully, forcing the author/artist to change his original plan. WHAT IF WE RUIN GUNNERKRIGG!?!?
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Oct 9, 2010 09:42
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Mido posted:I always wonder if people ever manage to guess the plot and reveals successfully, forcing the author/artist to change his original plan. Boxbot is Coyote. So is Jones.
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Oct 9, 2010 13:16
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Mido posted:I always wonder if people ever manage to guess the plot and reveals successfully, forcing the author/artist to change his original plan. Ah, the Rich Burlew conundrum.
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Oct 9, 2010 14:06
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I think it was Pete Abrams who first had seperate 'talk about what's going on' and 'speculate about what's going on' forums for Sluggy Freelance, for just that reason. Seemed a bit silly, even at the time.
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Oct 9, 2010 14:21
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Bobulus posted:I think it was Pete Abrams who first had seperate 'talk about what's going on' and 'speculate about what's going on' forums for Sluggy Freelance, for just that reason. Yeah, I mean how could spoilers ruin Sluggy Freelance when the comic is already garbage? Zing!
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Oct 9, 2010 14:29
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This was back in the day, when Sluggy was like one of eight comics on the web, and the idea was the author would only read the dicussion forum, not the speculation forum, so no one could ever claim that Pete Abrams stole an idea, or whatever. But yeah, Sluggy is not the best comic these days.
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Oct 9, 2010 14:48
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I seem to remember reading the Girl Genius FAQ a while back, where the authors answered "Do you want to read my fanfiction?" with "We'd love to, and it's flattering, but our lawyers say that we can't for fear of accusations of stealing ideas from them. Please don't send us your fanfiction." They probably just didn't want to read a ton of lovely fanfiction, though.
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Oct 9, 2010 15:55
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Pester posted:I seem to remember reading the Girl Genius FAQ a while back, where the authors answered "Do you want to read my fanfiction?" with "We'd love to, and it's flattering, but our lawyers say that we can't for fear of accusations of stealing ideas from them. Please don't send us your fanfiction." That's actually a common thing with professional authors. Here's a thing George R R Martin wrote about it, though fanfic is probably the only way we'll ever see an ending to Ice and Fire.. Sometimes, though, if you're speculating about a story and you get it right it just means that the story's been laid out well. A plot doesn't have to have a bunch of unguessable twists for it to be good.
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Oct 9, 2010 16:00
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It's funny that you bring up GRRM since Song of Ice and Fire is an excellent example of what we're talking about here - hints and oblique references to a twist that'll pop up later in the plot. I have several guesses about what's going to happen in the next couple books that I'm very confident about (and not just the RLJ theory) and the Raven thing seems pretty solid as well for GC. I really enjoy rereading stuff and seeing all the references and nods to stuff that hasn't happened yet. It really gives the world that Siddell (or Martin) is building a feeling of solidity and reality. Compare to, say, Harry Potter, where half of the series is just Rowling winging it and the first books don't feel linked to the later books, but the later books reference the first books a lot.
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Oct 9, 2010 16:54
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Mido posted:I always wonder if people ever manage to guess the plot and reveals successfully, forcing the author/artist to change his original plan. It probably helps Tea-San curb that temptation that he keeps a constant buffer of something like two weeks of comics in advance.
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Oct 9, 2010 18:47
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Idran posted:It probably helps Tea-San curb that temptation that he keeps a constant buffer of something like two weeks of comics in advance. Three months of comics done ahead, two weeks uploaded ahead, iirc.
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Oct 9, 2010 19:07
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I can't find a reference for it at the moment, but I'm fairly sure someone asked him this question on formspring or in the forum and he said he doesn't change things based on fan guesses.
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Kojiro posted:That's actually a common thing with professional authors. Here's a thing George R R Martin wrote about it, though fanfic is probably the only way we'll ever see an ending to Ice and Fire.. Mild derail, but thanks for linking this. I had heard GRRM disliked fanfiction but as I didn't follow his work, I never bothered to find out why. Interesting read on the topic and his opinions are much more well-reasoned and grounded than I expected.
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Oct 10, 2010 00:20
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1stGear posted:Mild derail, but thanks for linking this. I had heard GRRM disliked fanfiction but as I didn't follow his work, I never bothered to find out why. Interesting read on the topic and his opinions are much more well-reasoned and grounded than I expected. It's kinda silly though - doesn't the standard fanfiction disclaimer ('I don't own this, the author does, don't try to make money off this, and if any copyright holder complains I'll take this offline') basically cover his objections? His approach basically presupposes an impossibility of having a reasonable relationship with one's fans. Also, trying to stop people from jerking off to/drawing creepy porn of/etc of your work in the age of the internet is possibly the most futile exercise there is.
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Oct 10, 2010 02:13
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Fangz posted:It's kinda silly though - doesn't the standard fanfiction disclaimer ('I don't own this, the author does, don't try to make money off this, and if any copyright holder complains I'll take this offline') basically cover his objections? His approach basically presupposes an impossibility of having a reasonable relationship with one's fans. It's just to stop legal battles like the one he mentions- Not everyone uses that disclaimer, and it doesn't cover the 'author read my fanfic and totally copied it' problem anyway. You don't have to go all nuts trying to remove fanfic from the net, just don't read it and make it publicly known that you don't.
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Oct 10, 2010 02:29
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Fangz posted:It's kinda silly though - doesn't the standard fanfiction disclaimer ('I don't own this, the author does, don't try to make money off this, and if any copyright holder complains I'll take this offline') basically cover his objections? His approach basically presupposes an impossibility of having a reasonable relationship with one's fans. Most people are reasonable. It's those rare crazy nuts that cause trouble, and they cause way way way more trouble than proportional, so he and other creators have to go out of their way to protect themselves.
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Oct 10, 2010 02:30
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Kojiro posted:You don't have to go all nuts trying to remove fanfic from the net, just don't read it and make it publicly known that you don't. That sucks rear end. Writers are able to steal all they want from almost the entire history of literature. If by some miracle a fanfic writer actually makes something worth while it should be the right of the original's author to plunder that fanfic right down to the font.
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Oct 10, 2010 03:13
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Why does everything have to be so hostile all the time.
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1stGear posted:Mild derail, but thanks for linking this. I had heard GRRM disliked fanfiction but as I didn't follow his work, I never bothered to find out why. Interesting read on the topic and his opinions are much more well-reasoned and grounded than I expected. One of his big point near the end is entirely false, though, because like a bunch of people he's mixed up trademark and copyright. quote:Furthermore, we HAVE to do it....no one mentioned one crucial aspect of copyright law -- a copyright MUST BE DEFENDED. If someone infringes on your copyright, and you are aware of the infringement, and you do not defend your copyright, the law assumes that you have abandoned it. Copyright does not have to be defended or you lose it. Trademarks do, they can become genericized, but copyright lasts until the end of the copyright period regardless of how fervently you defend against infringement. Psych posted:That sucks rear end. That's why a lot of other professional writers have released their work under some sort of license that allows for fanwork but forces the creators of that fanwork to waive any claims of ownership and any rights to sue the author for so-called "derivative" works, and all the other possible issues that might crop up. Since most fan creators don't care about selling their stuff or anything like that, they just do it for fun, it doesn't really get in the way of anything. It's basically a way of making that "we don't own this" disclaimer a legal agreement. I mean, there's just as many professional authors, even really big name authors, out there that wholly support fanfiction as ones that don't, it's not like solutions to this besides "just ignore it" haven't come up before. Out of all the authors that are against fanfiction, though, the best one has to be Jasper Fforde. The author whose main series, Thursday Next, is all about a person that jumps into various novels, interacts with the characters, sometimes even rewrites them from the inside; it's basically a big tongue-in-cheek fanfic of literary canon. I honestly wonder sometimes if he's not just against it all just to troll his fanbase.
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Idran posted:Out of all the authors that are against fanfiction, though, the best one has to be Jasper Fforde. The author whose main series, Thursday Next, is all about a person that jumps into various novels, interacts with the characters, sometimes even rewrites them from the inside; it's basically a big tongue-in-cheek fanfic of literary canon. I honestly wonder sometimes if he's not just against it all just to troll his fanbase. I have to wonder if his writing in general is just an attempt to troll people. The Eyre Affair is one of the worst books I've ever finished.
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Oct 10, 2010 05:50
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Getting back on topic a bit, does anyone recognize the symbol in the light bulb above Kat's head on this page? http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=757 I expected it to be some alchemical symbol alongside Antimony and Bismuth, but I haven't been able to find anything.
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Oct 10, 2010 06:49
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bokchoi posted:Getting back on topic a bit, does anyone recognize the symbol in the light bulb above Kat's head on this page? http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=757 It's the nose and mouth of a very happy B^U. Which I guess just makes it a ^U.
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Oct 10, 2010 07:40
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OK, it's just, look at those hands. http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=772
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