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Aezith posted:It's loving awesome, I used to dislike them but this stuff really brought me back to their style. I listened to the first couple Tracks, and it didn't really grab me. It took a while for "Gateways" to grow on me, so maybe I'll give the whole disc a spin sometime.
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The orchestral elements on the album are, at times, more enjoyable than the metal. It sounds like it was taken from Heroes of Might and Magic, what with the sweeping orchestration and the little flourishes here and there that sound like musical wisps prancing through an enchanted meadow.
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SinetheGuy posted:So I've spent the last couple months completely immersing myself in doom metal, after many years flirting with more obvious forms of underground metal. Black metal never really grabbed me until today. I've been listening to Hvis Lyset Tar Oss over and over again. It's loving blowing my mind. Just to quote this from a few pages back, you should totally listen to darkspace's first demo and album too because they are great.
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Mr. Hoppy posted:Just to quote this from a few pages back, you should totally listen to darkspace's first demo and album too because they are great. Thanking all y'all for the pretty great recommendations. I managed to shift over into a broader spectrum of BM after checking out more of the ambient stuff. Took me a second to get into the lower-fi, all tremolos and bass pedals, but I'm all in, now. The only thing I'm not sold on is the mostly blast beat stuff, like Mayhem. Also, is it just me, or does ambient BM tend to have eerily quasi-fascist undertones, more so than other kinds of BM? Is that Varg's influence? I got into Walknut and started looking into their stuff; it didn't take too long to find various fascist acts associated with them. Getting that caught up with Germanic heritage can't be healthy. Yeah, I dig some of that stuff, but I can't help but feel a bit uneasy while listening to it. I can listen to all the goregrind in the world and not give a gently caress, but slip a couple lines about "northern blood" in a song about landscapes and suddenly I feel legitimately provoked by metal. I guess it's the only way for extreme metal to fulfill it's promise of transgression for me. VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV Flip Yr Wig fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Oct 12, 2010 |
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SinetheGuy posted:The only thing I'm not sold on is the mostly blast beat stuff, like Mayhem. I never got into Mayhem personally. I think if they didn't have such an involved history, they wouldn't have been well known for their music alone. Don't spend too much time getting caught up with BM projects for their pro-Germanic stance, you are going to miss some great stuff. Taake, Peste Noire, Burzum, etc. Plasma1010 fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Oct 12, 2010 |
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Plasma1010 posted:Don't spend too much time getting caught up with BM projects for their pro-Germanic stance, you are going to miss some great stuff. Taake, Peste Noire, Burzum, etc. This. I dislike NSBMism lyrics, but then again knowing that the person performing the song is batshit insane adds something to it (Burzum, Gorgoroth etc.) Also I've always liked how people find NSBM objectionable but songs about disembowelling Christians with a rusty knife are a-ok
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Aezith posted:This. I dislike NSBMism lyrics, but then again knowing that the person performing the song is batshit insane adds something to it (Burzum, Gorgoroth etc.) I imagine it has something to do with the actual atrocious history behind Nazism, whereas most extreme metal lyrics that involve graphic violence are written mainly for shock value or even for shits n' giggles, although I suppose that applies more to death metal than black metal. But I agree, it's an amusing dynamic. Can you imagine the Moral Majority getting up in arms about Drudkh lyric sheets? Flip Yr Wig fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Oct 12, 2010 |
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Plasma1010 posted:I am again going to plug 'Evilfeast - Lost Horizons of Wisdom'. The fourth track on the album titled "My Tower Among The Timeless Mountains" is the best Synth / Black Metal track I have ever heard. The transition from the synth to the guitars threw me for a loop because the qualities between are completely different, but aside from that I really enjoyed it from about 1:55 onward. Kinda gave me an Arcturus meets Burzum feel. Hows the rest of the album play?
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Openknees posted:The transition from the synth to the guitars threw me for a loop because the qualities between are completely different, but aside from that I really enjoyed it from about 1:55 onward. Kinda gave me an Arcturus meets Burzum feel. Hows the rest of the album play? It's literally one of my favorite albums of all time, but I'm not sure why the Synth to Guitar transition surprised you, considering the track opens with the same Synth and Guitar, transitions to just the Synth, then back to both. I post Evilfeast periodically here for who is interested, you can check this track off a different album and if you like it, you'll probably like Evilfeast as a whole ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iX1bI-9b3w Plasma1010 fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Oct 12, 2010 |
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SinetheGuy posted:But I agree, it's an amusing dynamic. Can you imagine the Moral Majority getting up in arms about Drudkh lyric sheets? But Drudkh's lyrics are just old Ukrainian poems? ...oh I think I just got the joke 
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So the past 3 months I took the plunge into black metal after getting kinda burned out on Japanese raw punk and 80s crust/D-beat. I was pretty surprised by how much I liked of what I heard considering I've always been kinda wary of extreme metal. I'm typically drawn more towards mid tempo, punkier, and lo fi stuff and I really dig the whole atmosphere the music provides. My favorites so far have been Panzerfaust by Darkthrone Cult is Alive by Darkthrone Nights Middle EP by Bone Awl Magnetism of War by Bone Awl the first Bathory Demo Nahvlar s/t Deathcrush by Mayhem Dimensiónes del Trance Kósmico by Volahn That Volahn lp is loving awesome Indigenismo inspired black metal, its one of my favorite albums I've heard all year. I can't get into Transylvanian Hunger at all its my least favorite Darkthrone album, every song sounds exactly the same to me and its not even cool in a hypnotic way to me, no matter how hard I want to like it just hasn't hit me. I've listened to most of Burzum's non synth discography, but part of me still feels weird about it because the dude is a nutjob (ironically I like Fang a lot!). Some others I've listened too in passing that were enjoyable or okay were Gnaw Their Tounges, Hex Noir, and Von.
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You'd definitely like the newer Darkthrone stuff - it's a lot more crusty and punky. Try Dark Thrones and Black Flags.
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Aezith posted:Also I've always liked how people find NSBM objectionable but songs about disembowelling Christians with a rusty knife are a-ok  All day long, over and over again: friend of the family friend of the family friend of the family! DON'T STAY OUT TOO LATE! AS LONG AS THERE IS NIGGERS THERE IS HATE!
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Yep, I had a whole Vaginal Jesus album stuck in my head for a week so I understand how you felt 
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Judas Chongo posted:So the past 3 months I took the plunge into black metal after getting kinda burned out on Japanese raw punk and 80s crust/D-beat. I was pretty surprised by how much I liked of what I heard considering I've always been kinda wary of extreme metal. I'm typically drawn more towards mid tempo, punkier, and lo fi stuff and I really dig the whole atmosphere the music provides. I really liked the little bit of Bone Awl I heard, but I'm having a hard time getting my hands on some more. It reminds me of all that punk I vaguely remember being an obsessive geek over. Same goes for Darkthrone's new crusty stuff. Whatever happened to those simpler, more innocent days? Anyway, I personally recommend revisiting Transylvanian Hunger at some point. I felt the same way about it for a while, but that opening melody starting to creep into my head. I'm pretty into it now.
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Oh yeah I definitely enjoy all of the recent Darkthrone albums, Circle the Wagons rules and has great album artwork. I still haven't listened to A Blaze in The Northern Sky and a handful of their other works yet. Panzerfaust is definitely my favorite though, it was my first BM album to listen to and the first time I heard Quintessence I was hooked, what a sinister fuckin album. I'm getting a new record player this week and I've got a shipment of BM vinyls along with some Godflesh and a few hardcore albums on its way, life owns hail satan.
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Judas Chongo posted:I'm getting a new record player this week and I've got a shipment of BM vinyls along with some Godflesh and a few hardcore albums on its way, life owns hail satan. Vinyl buddies  The Hooded Menace/Coffins 7" and "Fulfill The Curse" finally came last week from Doomentia, after a good 2 months of waiting. Just makes me that much more excited about MDF next year. Also have the new Watain coming to me on vinyl. gently caress the haters, it's an awesome album.
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Go listen to Akitsa and Ildjarn for punky, lo-fi aggression.
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Kvelertak are basically punk with just enough of a black metal edge that I can listen to them. Also they are ridiculously fun live. http://www.myspace.com/kvelertak
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I really really like Kvelertak's music but I just can't stand that guy's voice. It's a sad state of affairs. Judas Chongo you might want to cast an eye (ear) over Black Altar sometime
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I think the vocalist is decent, but he certainly could have been better. He's fun to watch live, though I saw Kvelertak (and Haust, Obliteration and Purified in Blood) last Thursday, and it was a really fun show to be drunk at. As for the guy who wanted recommendations: Carpathian Forest's two first albums have a lot of mid-tempo, dirty, rock'n'rolly black metal. And good atmosphere too. Pannus fucked around with this message at 12:07 on Oct 13, 2010 |
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Judas Chongo posted:So the past 3 months I took the plunge into black metal after getting kinda burned out on Japanese raw punk and 80s crust/D-beat. I was pretty surprised by how much I liked of what I heard considering I've always been kinda wary of extreme metal. I'm typically drawn more towards mid tempo, punkier, and lo fi stuff and I really dig the whole atmosphere the music provides. You might enjoy the 'war metal' sub-sub-genre. Sarcofago (maybe not strictly war metal but super influential on the style at least): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vcFYZ70iBA Beherit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRAm9kmA918 Blasphemy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hySMyQFFQgc There's a whole bunch of this stuff out there but somebody else probably knows way more about it than me.
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QPZIL posted:Just makes me that much more excited about MDF next year. Hey NC buddy! I'm seriously considering MDF for my first time just to see Hooded Menace, Acid Witch, Aura Noir and Repugnant. Pleasure to chill posted:As for the guy who wanted recommendations: Carpathian Forest's two first albums have a lot of mid-tempo, dirty, rock'n'rolly black metal. And good atmosphere too. I love to put on Carpathian Forest's Black Shining Leather for this very reason. It's one of the the quintessential black 'n roll albums for me.
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Baron Von Ghoulosh posted:Hey NC buddy! I'm seriously considering MDF for my first time just to see Hooded Menace, Acid Witch, Aura Noir and Repugnant. I don't know what my situation currently is, but perhaps we could arrange a car pool. I guess I've got like 6 months to figure it out.
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Baron Von Ghoulosh posted:I love to put on Carpathian Forest's Black Shining Leather for this very reason. It's one of the the quintessential black 'n roll albums for me. Totally. Morbid Fascination of Death has a lot of the punky and rolling black 'n roll elements as well.
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QPZIL posted:I don't know what my situation currently is, but perhaps we could arrange a car pool. I live in Cary (can't wait to see Nevermore at Volume 11 tomorrow) and would be interested in joining this carpool if it happens. I'm still kicking myself for not going to MDF this year...what an incredible lineup it was. Gorguts, Watain, Nirvana 2002, The Chasm, Portal, Nazxul, Krallice, and a bunch of other great bands all in one place. Damnit. I saw Watain a couple years ago and it was one of the great memorable shows of my life, so seeing them again would have been a treat. Oh well.
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alpiger posted:You might enjoy the 'war metal' sub-sub-genre. 'War metal'? Seriously? What the gently caress does that even mean?
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Tony Jowns posted:'War metal'? Seriously? What the gently caress does that even mean? Normally I'd complain about how you shouldn't make a forum post bitching about a genre you don't recognize (I've seen way too many "lol hurr hurr what da gently caress is speedcore" posts to forgive the apparent inability to Google something), but I totally don't recognize "war metal" and Google gives no help. Count me in with the "what the gently caress is war metal?" crowd. edit: Is it like Turisas? They self-identify as "battle metal".
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Last.fm's certainly heard of it, there's even a tag for it. http://www.last.fm/tag/war%20metal According to them, it's "A bestial combination of Black, Thrash, and Death Metal which is generally extremely raw and unrelenting." Bestial! Basically, no matter how obscure or  or  the musical genre or label is, you can usually type it into Last.fm, and it'll hoark up *something*.
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I'm all for ridiculously specific categorizing, but that's kind of stupid. What are the thrash elements? Thrash is defined by its contrasts to normal heavy metal, adding it onto things like death metal is a weird step in a totally different direction. Wait why is it even called "war metal", shouldn't it be called "blackened thrash/death metal" or something  GENERALLY EXTREMELY RAW! RAAAAAAGGH!
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"Bestial" was the buzzword of the British metal rag Zero Tolerance last year. Jesus christ I couldn't read a single article without "bestial rituals", "bestial brutality" and "bestial aggression" popping up in every single sentence of one issue. That magazine is unreadable at the best of times but I didn't even get through most of those articles for the sheer retardation and obsession with that word. Also, bands calling gigs "rituals". Shoot yourselves in the face. That's the kind of ritual I'd pay to see.
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Kaiho posted:Also, bands calling gigs "rituals". Shoot yourselves in the face. That's the kind of ritual I'd pay to see. Don't forget this gem from Watain quote:Remember that wearing Watain merchandise means showing your support towards a divine form of art that has been and will always be rightfully feared and hated by humanity. It is a sign of loyalty or belonging to the hungry ones, the fearless and feared, the enemies of the world as we know it. Support the War! What a loving joke this band has become
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'War metal' pretty much just means 'Blasphemy and bands that sound like Blasphemy' and it's not that uncommon a term at all, are you guys all really new to metal or something? 
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Kaiho posted:"Bestial" was the buzzword of the British metal rag Zero Tolerance last year. Jesus christ I couldn't read a single article without "bestial rituals", "bestial brutality" and "bestial aggression" popping up in every single sentence of one issue. That magazine is unreadable at the best of times but I didn't even get through most of those articles for the sheer retardation and obsession with that word. I remember that. Still managed to be more informative and better written than anything in Terrorizer even throughout that phase, though, which I guess is a sign of a low bar m-o-o-n posted:Don't forget this gem from Watain Hahaha
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alpiger posted:'War metal' pretty much just means 'Blasphemy and bands that sound like Blasphemy' and it's not that uncommon a term at all, are you guys all really new to metal or something?  Umm, no, we're not. To me, War Metal is the title of this song, not a ridiculously specific subgenre. Then again I am totally the wrong person to talk about genres, as I find them irrelevant, unlike Cobweb Heart up there.
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m-o-o-n posted:Don't forget this gem from Watain Hahaha. Were they actually joking, or being serious?
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Cobweb Heart posted:Hahaha. Were they actually joking, or being serious? It's Watain. So, I imagine that they were being serious. Being an enemy of the world is SERIOUS BUSINESS. 
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Don't forget this amazing Watain quote, from an interview with Invisible Oranges.quote:If Watain had unlimited resources, what would you do that you have not done so far? Er, ok.
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