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Gonzo McFee posted:Name me a wrestler who isn't. Barry Horowitz
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Gonzo McFee posted:Name me a wrestler who isn't. Ricky Steamboat?
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Oct 28, 2010 21:53
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Gonzo McFee posted:Name me a wrestler who isn't. Dean Malenko, that whore!
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Oct 28, 2010 22:03
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In his defense, this is a guy who ended up having mega success, and I can remember a distinct time when Cactus Jack was pretty much a loving joke character. I'd milk it for all it's worth if things ended up the way they did too.
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When Foley's first book came out, it seemed really honest and humble. Then everyone lauded him so much for his story, his humility and his writing ability, and he never seemed quite so humble again.
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Oct 29, 2010 00:55
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Who does WH2K think has the best looking sharp shooter? I'm pretty sure most people have seen some really good executions of this move and some really poor ones in their time, I seem to remember Stone Cold throwing some pretty sloppy sharp shooters during his latter years. My vote goes to the Rock, like everything else he does it with a great deal of rhythm and charisma and makes it look so effortless and athletic at the same time.
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Oct 29, 2010 15:54
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The Rock did the best copy of anyone's finisher.
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Oct 29, 2010 16:00
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Best Sharpshooter would probably be either Bret or Natalya. I love the left-leg version.
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Oct 29, 2010 16:22
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Benoit's always looked really good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2roXMQtl0k Edge had a cool variant too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsHarywoKBE
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I'm trying to list all the things that have been contested for in Ladder Matches over the years. This kinda ties into my previous question about other ladder and ladder-variant matches, as they are the best matches and I want to watch and sort them all, especially odd ones with weird prizes. My list so far: Belts (all types) Contracts (MITB, Title Shots, Pink Slips, Dominic Guerrero/Mysterio's parentage, etc.) Cash (Terri Invitational Tournament, the older ones from the 70s) A giant red X Did the urn ever get put up in one, or is that just an SVR thing?
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projecthalaxy posted:I'm trying to list all the things that have been contested for in Ladder Matches over the years. This kinda ties into my previous question about other ladder and ladder-variant matches, as they are the best matches and I want to watch and sort them all, especially odd ones with weird prizes. My list so far: Kurt Angle's gold medals Keys to the Cage at Lockdown
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Web Jew.0 posted:Kurt Angle's gold medals Thanks. I realize this is the most  thing, but I love ladders.
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Scorpion Deathlock for life.
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projecthalaxy posted:I'm trying to list all the things that have been contested for in Ladder Matches over the years. This kinda ties into my previous question about other ladder and ladder-variant matches, as they are the best matches and I want to watch and sort them all, especially odd ones with weird prizes. My list so far: Was the giant red X ever put up in an actual ladder match? I always thought the whole point of the Ultimate X match was that there were no ladders involved (despite them being used a bunch of times).
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Faxman posted:Was the giant red X ever put up in an actual ladder match? I always thought the whole point of the Ultimate X match was that there were no ladders involved (despite them being used a bunch of times). I don't think so, but I am considering Ultimate X a ladder variant in the sense of "the thing is up high. get the thing" matches.
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Faxman posted:Was the giant red X ever put up in an actual ladder match? I always thought the whole point of the Ultimate X match was that there were no ladders involved (despite them being used a bunch of times).
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Sue Denim posted:My vote goes to the Rock, like everything else he does it with a great deal of rhythm and charisma and makes it look so effortless and athletic at the same time. I always thought the Rock did the worst Sharpshooter. He never seemed to put pressure on the guy. He just squatted slightly, leaned his head back, and opened his mouth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WasZTh75hCY
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^ Rock had the worst sharpshooter ever
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Shadalator posted:^ Seriously, to bitch about Austin's sharpshooter (which was pretty good in the Owen variation of using the kneepad for leverage) and praise the Rock's "let me slap this on as quickly and weakly as possible" ankle crossing variant is pretty strange.
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The Rock had kind of a crappy Sharpshooter, but The Rock owns so it all evens out.
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projecthalaxy posted:I'm trying to list all the things that have been contested for in Ladder Matches over the years. This kinda ties into my previous question about other ladder and ladder-variant matches, as they are the best matches and I want to watch and sort them all, especially odd ones with weird prizes. My list so far: If you're looking for more in these categories, you can add Three Count's recording contract.
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Weapons (Janice, Barbed Wire, Singapore Canes)
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:The Rock had kind of a crappy Sharpshooter, but The Rock owns so it all evens out. Rock's Sharpshooter was awesome cuz it looked like he was in more pain than the guy he was putting it on.
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I always loved the variant Bret did when he would wrap the guy's legs around the ringpost.
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That was a figure 4, actually.
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Perry Normal posted:If you're looking for more in these categories, you can add Three Count's recording contract. My favorite contract for a ladder match has to be Austin vs McMahons for the controlling share of a publicly traded company.
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According to Wikipedia, Kaz and AJ Styles had a ladder match to determine who wouldn't have to wear a reindeer costume 
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As I recall, that was the final of a tournament. So the guys who LOST the earlier rounds didn't have to do anything, but the second place guy gets humiliated...
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projecthalaxy posted:My favorite contract for a ladder match has to be Austin vs McMahons for the controlling share of a publicly traded company. They didn't go public for a couple of months after that. And anyway, the McMahons have the majority of stock in the company so they still could put it up in an SEC sanctioned ladder match. That is why no member of the Corporation could be involved, to prevent possible insider trading.
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MassRayPer posted:They didn't go public for a couple of months after that. And anyway, the McMahons have the majority of stock in the company so they still could put it up in an SEC sanctioned ladder match. That is why no member of the Corporation could be involved, to prevent possible insider trading. I wonder what the tax ramifications would have been if Vince and Shane lost since it wouldn't be a sale and it wouldn't be a gift. Would involuntary conversion rules apply if Vince/Shane willingly signed a contract for the match? Did Irwin R. Schyster have the foresight and influence to add wrestling match stipulations to capital gain/loss rules? We may never know
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MassRayPer posted:Weapons (Janice, Barbed Wire, Singapore Canes) I was actually wondering if that had ever happened. It seems so weirdly counter-intuitive to have a match with legal foreign objects where the prize is another foreign object. Also, chiming in with nothing (King of the Mountain).
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jscolon2.0 posted:I was actually wondering if that had ever happened. It seems so weirdly counter-intuitive to have a match with legal foreign objects where the prize is another foreign object. Basically the match is a pinfall/sub stip with "if you get the weapon it is now in play and you can beat the guy up with the weapon" rules. I don't recall if they have to get the weapon before pins count.
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CVagts posted:Basically the match is a pinfall/sub stip with "if you get the weapon it is now in play and you can beat the guy up with the weapon" rules. I don't recall if they have to get the weapon before pins count. Right, I get that. But what's the point of a ladder match with Singapore canes at the top of the ladder? Ladders are by definition already a legal weapon.
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jscolon2.0 posted:Right, I get that. But what's the point of a ladder match with Singapore canes at the top of the ladder? Ladders are by definition already a legal weapon. ECW did a lot of stupid poo poo. But in this case a Credible vs Dreamer Stairway to Hell (ladder match with barbed wire as the prize) was changed to a cane on a pole due to "the NY commission." Which could be the case, but they should have known about that before hand since they ran NY all the time. The crowd let out a collective groan when it was announced, since why the gently caress would you use a cane when you could use a ladder!
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I always wanted to see TnA run an Iron Man ladder match. Who can retrieve the MOST poo poo from the rafters in 30 minutes?
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Magic_Ceiling_Fan posted:That was a figure 4, actually. No, I distinctly remember Bret using a ringpost version of the Sharpshooter once or twice. He needed to use the ringpost that had the steps, but still...
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George Kaplan posted:I always wanted to see TnA run an Iron Man ladder match. Well, there was that match where the belt kept falling down. That's almost like retrieving it multiple times v  v
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George Kaplan posted:I always wanted to see TnA run an Iron Man ladder match.
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anakha posted:No, I distinctly remember Bret using a ringpost version of the Sharpshooter once or twice. He used a ringpost figure 4 and a ringpost Sharpshooter against the Undertaker at SummerSlam 1997. I think both were on the non-step corners though.
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jscolon2.0 posted:I was actually wondering if that had ever happened. It seems so weirdly counter-intuitive to have a match with legal foreign objects where the prize is another foreign object. Sabu and Sandman had an absolutely brutal ladder match where they retrieved barbed wire after sabu had been stabbing sandman with a pair of loving scissors Edit: Here it is. It's got what was good and what was bad about ECW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1OEI-Kc-3k TimberJoe fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Oct 30, 2010 |
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