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 New Strip! (like clockwork) That's cold, Surma. 
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Thinking caps on.
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Nov 1, 2010 08:37
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Heeey, that's entrapment! Anyway, this development pleases me a lot, if for no other reason than Surma's character has just become much more three-dimensional. Dead mother characters seem to be a "don't sully" in most stories, and it's nice to see the comic acknowledge that she was an actual person. (It would be very interesting to me if Anthony were actually a great guy with some issues and Surma was a charismatic but manipulative person.)
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Nov 1, 2010 09:25
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Wow, that was certainly unexpected.
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Nov 1, 2010 10:47
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Hahaha the Court is so lovely to everyone, I guess.
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Nov 1, 2010 11:17
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Am I the only one who immediately thought that Kat's mom is lying for some reason (probably to cloud the plot even more)?
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Nov 1, 2010 12:14
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Kat's mom has no reason to lie about this. She's always proven fairly honest about anything relating to Surma or Renard, probably because Surma was her best friend. Why would she lie about Surma tricking Renard when it makes Surma look like a badguy? I have to say I like this a lot, though, I'm a fan of moral greys. EDIT: It IS possible Kat's mom doesn't have the full story, though. It's also interesting that from what we know, Renard refused to take Coyote's powers until after Surma tricked him like this, and then he happily accepted the offer and ran off into the court. The court couldn't have known he wasn't interested, but they kind of hosed themselves on that one. dumb brunette fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Nov 1, 2010 |
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Nov 1, 2010 14:31
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Poor Renard
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Nov 1, 2010 14:41
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Pick posted:Heeey, that's entrapment! Yeah, I've been consistently impressed with Surma's characterization. Back during the flashback chapter it would have been easy to write Surma as a generation xerox of Annie, but instead she was pretty much the polar opposite: Loud, emotional, aggressive, etc. She's constantly been referred to as an almost angelic figure that everyone loved, but now it's been revealed that she was willing to act underhandedly for a greater good. It's like she's a 3-dimensional person, something which many webcomics struggle with.
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Nov 1, 2010 14:58
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The 19th Person posted:She's constantly been referred to as an almost angelic figure that everyone loved, Another sign of good characterization is that most of the Surma is the bestest person ever talk is from guys that see her as the one that got away. So it would make sense they are idealizing her. Also, most of the Anthony Carver is a jerk talk is coming from the same people.
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Nov 1, 2010 15:39
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Pick posted:It would be very interesting to me if Anthony were actually a great guy with some issues and Surma was a charismatic but manipulative person.) If Anthony were a great guy I don't think he'd have dropped his daughter off what has to be the most dangerous boarding school in the world and then immediately proceeded to drop off the face of the Earth.
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Nov 1, 2010 16:11
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Psych posted:If Anthony were a great guy I don't think he'd have dropped his daughter off what has to be the most dangerous boarding school in the world and then immediately proceeded to drop off the face of the Earth. Yeah, and what's with all those British parents during WWII sending their kids off to the country, leaving them with strangers where they might be mistreated, even sexually abused? Didn't they care? What could possibly be more important than being beside their children to nourish them during their formative years? Context, context. Anthony might be called away because what he does is important and potentially even more dangerous than your average life at Gunnerkrigg. Pick fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Nov 1, 2010 |
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Nov 1, 2010 16:55
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And anyway, at least the Court isn't as bad as Hogwarts.
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Nov 1, 2010 16:58
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Pick posted:Yeah, and what's with all those British parents during WWII sending their kids off to the country, leaving them with strangers where they might be mistreated, even sexually abused? Didn't they care? What could possibly be more important than being beside their children to nourish them during their formative years? Last I checked Gunnerkrigg Court does not take place during world war III, the cell phone has been invented, mail still exists, and there are boarding schools that are not plagued with monsters.
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Nov 1, 2010 17:08
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The Court probably just had Anthony kidnapped so they could test out some new strain of eyeball-eating nanites on him or some poo poo.
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Nov 1, 2010 17:09
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Psych posted:Last I checked Gunnerkrigg Court does not take place during world war III, the cell phone has been invented, mail still exists, and there are boarding schools that are not plagued with monsters. Way to miss the glaringly obvious point of my post, which was that we have literally no information regarding why Anthony did what he did (or even what he did outside its consequences for Antimony). In a world where First Nations trickster gods are peddling off teeth and Polish gods of the dead stalk hospital halls, there might possibly be room for a passable excuse. Just saying. For example: Anthony has been known to disappear routinely. Perhaps Anthony does not actually exist all the time, but only on sporadic intervals. Oh crap, forgot, they have cell phones. Silly me!
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Nov 1, 2010 17:24
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Absentee fathers should always be presumed guilty  .
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Nov 1, 2010 18:18
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To be quite honest, We have absolutely no idea what Anthony's been up to the whole time. Even when he was in high school, Anthony was off doing something extremely important. What exactly was it, we got no idea. It could be for the good cause or for EVIIIIL purposes.
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Nov 1, 2010 19:31
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The story from Anja also meshes with what Coyote said here about Renard being tricked by the court, so it's likely that it's the whole truth.
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Nov 1, 2010 21:34
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Psych posted:If Anthony were a great guy I don't think he'd have dropped his daughter off what has to be the most dangerous boarding school in the world and then immediately proceeded to drop off the face of the Earth.
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Nov 2, 2010 01:01
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FronzelNeekburm posted:You'll change your tune when it turns out he was hiding in the Court all along, waiting to transform it Autobot City-style to fight Ysengatron. You'll change your tune when it turns out that he was boxbot all along!
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Nov 2, 2010 01:18
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Psych posted:You'll change your tune when it turns out that he was boxbot all along! Antimony is half-robot? I hope we learn more about Surma, possibly an explanation of why none of the psychopomps came for her.
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Nov 2, 2010 01:29
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farraday posted:Antimony is half-robot? I hope we learn more about Surma, possibly an explanation of why none of the psychopomps came for her. Wait, so now Annie's dick is a robot? 
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Nov 2, 2010 07:03
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Guys please this is the GC thread, the only dicks you should talk about are Ysengrin and Diego.
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Nov 2, 2010 08:28
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And that rear end in a top hat with the arrow!
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Nov 2, 2010 09:38
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farraday posted:Antimony is half-robot? I hope we learn more about Surma, possibly an explanation of why none of the psychopomps came for her. Clearly none of the psychopomps came for her because she is a robot. Annie took her to the afterlife, thereby becoming the first psychopomp to the robot race.
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Nov 2, 2010 13:36
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Fecha posted:Guys please this is the GC thread, the only dicks you should talk about are Ysengrin and Diego. Much as I love him, Coyote is clearly a much bigger dick than Ysengrin.
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Nov 2, 2010 21:09
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Pick posted:Much as I love him, Coyote is clearly a much bigger dick than Ysengrin. Yeah, as wacky as he is, Coyote is a gigantic rear end in a top hat and I think has depths of assholeishness that we haven't seen. If GC ever commits to a single, epic plot, I would not be surprised if Coyote ends up being the villain.
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Nov 2, 2010 22:09
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Eh, Coyote's more a force of nature, and we're actually involved in a pretty big epic plot as it is... It just happens to be a lot of tiny threads instead of one big one.
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Nov 2, 2010 22:12
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Rei_ posted:Eh, Coyote's more a force of nature, and we're actually involved in a pretty big epic plot as it is... It just happens to be a lot of tiny threads instead of one big one. And in the big, epic plot, everything's already happened. We're just following Antimony around while she tries to figure it out.
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Nov 2, 2010 23:25
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1stGear posted:Yeah, as wacky as he is, Coyote is a gigantic rear end in a top hat and I think has depths of assholeishness that we haven't seen. If GC ever commits to a single, epic plot, I would not be surprised if Coyote ends up being the villain. He's a dick AND an rear end in a top hat?
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Nov 3, 2010 03:53
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Phy posted:He's a dick AND an rear end in a top hat?
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Nov 3, 2010 04:03
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Why do I get the feeling that Annie will be packing a little stuffed wolf regardless of instructions?
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Nov 3, 2010 10:34
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Pick posted:Why do I get the feeling that Annie will be packing a little stuffed wolf regardless of instructions? Because they told her not to. Which means the Court actually wants her to bring him for some reason. Trickery!
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Nov 3, 2010 10:38
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I like how Anja and Kat are wearing matching bandanas. Dorkiness runs in the family, I guess.
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Nov 3, 2010 15:55
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I don't think we can really blame Coyote for treating Ysengrin like crap. Ysengrin is a pathetic hanger on with no sense of humor and anger management issues. Whipping boy is just about the only useful function the guy can serve.
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Nov 3, 2010 16:14
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Psych posted:I don't think we can really blame Coyote for treating Ysengrin like crap. Ysengrin is a pathetic hanger on with no sense of humor and anger management issues. Whipping boy is just about the only useful function the guy can serve. I think he's a little smarter than you give him credit for. http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=685 Or at least know when to dial back the anger and admit to a mistake.
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Nov 3, 2010 17:24
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Man, you are irrationally hard on the characters presently being cast as unsympathic, considering how little information we have and how morally grey most of the cast have been revealed to be. Remember when people felt sorry for Diego? Do you recall the response to Jack murdering the robot and trapping Renard? Right now we get Annie's POV more than anyone's, but she doesn't know everything. Heck, in some versions of the Reynard mythos, Renard blinded Ysengrin's children.
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Nov 3, 2010 17:30
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Annie is totes gonna sneak Reynardine out of the Court.
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Psych posted:I don't think we can really blame Coyote for treating Ysengrin like crap. Ysengrin is a pathetic hanger on with no sense of humor and anger management issues. Whipping boy is just about the only useful function the guy can serve. I'm almost certain that Ysengrin has some emotional issues in his past and that's why he's the way he is today. Not just the suit of armor, his behavior and attitude is a way of protecting his own vulnerability.
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