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very posted:I just got a G13 out of curiosity. The only thing that I don't like so far is that the most comfortable hand position is actually on the 16-19 keys, which is nowhere near where the indents are... So right now my fingers get a bit lost. Do I have tiny hands or something? For FPS games muscle memory wasn't too big of an issue except that I always used Mouse2 for forward movement (go go 1990s QW config) and that was a strange habit to break. My biggest hangup was finding a replacement for [TAB] in WoW but once I settled on using my pinky on the G15 key I fell right into step with everything else about it. Also yeah if your fingers are resting on the 3rd row down then either you are sitting your palm a bit far back or your hands are really small.
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Linux Nazi posted:go go 1990s QW config.  That's an ergonomic nightmare. My fingers are getting arthritis just thinking about this.On that note, I think I'm going to commemorate my odd gaming style (ESDF) by painting the keycaps. What should I use to ensure that it'll be thin enough and retain the texture? Model paint? EDIT: VVV Oh, I thought it was a lot crazier, but that makes sense. Illuminado fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Nov 3, 2010 |
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Illuminado posted:
Not at all. it was still ASD for strafe/backwards movement just mouse2 instead of W for forward. It never gave me cramps, it's just what I got used to back playing quakeworld 40 hours a day. I now use Mouse2 instead for jump, and I don't use Mouse1 for anything really.
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So upon second look at the HHP, I don't think I could live with no arrow keys, that's just madness imho. Currently looking at the Realforce 87U (if I can find it) or the 103UB. Figure I'll have clicky-as-gently caress Das at home, and a nice Topre at work. Never owned a keyboard (aside from laptops) without a numpad...I think the only thing I use my numpad for at home is slamming in my password usually.
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movax posted:So upon second look at the HHP, I don't think I could live with no arrow keys, that's just madness imho. Currently looking at the Realforce 87U (if I can find it) or the 103UB. Figure I'll have clicky-as-gently caress Das at home, and a nice Topre at work. Here's an 87U http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se0500
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In case anyone cares I think newegg is selling Rosewill Filco copies with Cherry switches: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201040&Tpk=rosewill%20mechanical%20keyboard $99 for it, so I would think it was just a rebrand rather than a cheap copy.
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I got a Lenovo USB keyboard with Trackpoint earlier this week. Typing up TPS reports has never been this fun
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very posted:Here's an 87U I was looking for black to be honest, and that's the 86U (don't really care about 86 vs 87, it's just that extra Windows key). Judging from cursory Googling, elitekeyboards is unlikely to carry the 87U again for awhile... 
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Is there anywhere I can try out a Filco or Das keyboard before spending >$100 on one? They sound pretty awesome but it seems ridiculous to spend that much on a keyboard.
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I bought a das professional a couple of months ago. I loved the way it felt/sounded but the drat thing was a huge pain to get working. I'd plug it into my Win7 machine (tried it with and without the adapter) and it was a crap shoot. Sometimes (maybe once out of 10 tries) it would just work. I ultimately returned it to micro center and ordered a Unicomp Customizer that I love love love. I am interested in the das model s though. There have been rumors floating around about them fixing the compatibility issues.
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movax posted:I was looking for black to be honest, and that's the 86U (don't really care about 86 vs 87, it's just that extra Windows key). Judging from cursory Googling, elitekeyboards is unlikely to carry the 87U again for awhile...
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redeyes posted:In case anyone cares I think newegg is selling Rosewill Filco copies with Cherry switches: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201040&Tpk=rosewill%20mechanical%20keyboard Jesus its even deactivated, you cant even put your email in to be notified of stock.
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kri kri posted:Jesus its even deactivated, you cant even put your email in to be notified of stock. lovely, it wasn't a few days ago.
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I've had my G15 V1 for about four years now and the thing has worked great for me aside from the LCD screen going out around a year ago and the lights for the keys are now starting to flicker. After reading this thread I went up to Microcenter to pick up a mechanical keyboard to test them out. I ended up getting the Adesso MKB-135B keyboard (blue switches) and I really like it. I was debating between keeping this keyboard and getting a Filco but I was leaning towards this keyboard because of the usb ports on it and it also has the headphone and microphone jack. After seeing that new Razer BlackWidow keyboard I think I'm going to have to return this keyboard and get it. It has exactly what I'm looking for, the mechanical keys and the gaming aspect of it. I'll probably end up getting the ultimate version because I like having the illuminated keys just for looks. I'm going to go ahead and (pre)order it now and I'll have to let you guys know how I like it.
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I'm looking for a new keyboard because my current one (default Dell keyboard from many years ago) is filthy and can't register pressing A + S + Space or S + D + Space (which can be annoying in FPSes). I really don't need anything fancy, just a good solid keyboard with nice tactile feedback, although ease of cleaning would be a big plus. Anyone have any tips?
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I'd say if you don't need anything fancy, just go over to a local store and demo some inexpensive Microsoft or Logitech keyboards and find something you like, and then test them to make sure they register the key presses you need them to. Write down the names of all the keyboards you like and do research to check to see if they have any key ghosting issues. Personally I use a Model M that must be a decade old and it is still going strong; if you can find one of these in a thrift shop or local computer place and can verify it works (and have a PS2 port available, I know some comps do not) they can be very reliable if heavy, loud and huge.
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Pibborando San posted:Otaku time! Where does one acquire a black tenkeyless Filco with blank keys? Not seeing it on elitekeyboards.com. I love my Logitech Illuminated, but some of the keys broke when I pulled them off to clean and I'm not sure I want to spend another $70 on buying the same keyboard again. Unfortunately, I've talked to Logitech and they won't ship me replacement keys for the keys that are broken.
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coldfire07 posted:Where does one acquire a black tenkeyless Filco with blank keys? Not seeing it on elitekeyboards.com. They used to be pretty much where you'd expect to find them, under space savers and filco products; they were a limited run so it looks like they're out of stock for the time being. Because we has bought all the precious, we hassss.... One Swell Foop fucked around with this message at 11:35 on Nov 9, 2010 |
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So what's the Filco wrist rest actually like then? Seemed like a high premium to pay for something like that.
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One Swell Foop posted:They used to be pretty much where you'd expect to find them, under space savers and filco products; they were a limited run so it looks like they're out of stock for the time being. drat!
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nftyw posted:Thanks for the advice!
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Streebs posted:Is that tomato juice in a batman glass? Heh. Maudite in a Unibroue glass. Edit: just noticed this weapey posted:So what's the Filco wrist rest actually like then? Seemed like a high premium to pay for something like that. I find typing with it really comfortable; it's firm, slightly compliant but not at all squishy like gel pads, and the heel of my hand just rests lightly against that little step with my fingers nicely over the home keys. I'd never used a separate wrist rest before but I was coming away from an MS Ergo board (which has those built-in pleather pads), and this rest feels similar in a way. This is the $42 one btw, not the $70 one without the step that's on the elitekeyboard site now. I do 80% of my work on that keyboard and the rest definitely seems to reduce typing fatigue, so as far as I'm concerned I think it was a good buy. Phone posted:Sup Filco 87 with Blues and an MX Revolution buddy? One Swell Foop fucked around with this message at 10:29 on Nov 10, 2010 |
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One Swell Foop posted:Sup Filco 87 with Blues and an MX Revolution buddy?
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I know most people around this thread are big into the expensive mechanical boards, but I jumped on that G15 deal that was posted, and I'm really impressed. I prefer a quiet keyboard, and this one delivers in spades. It's about half as loud as my old MS Office keyboard, and the action is nice and smooth for a membrane keyboard. Now I just need to get around to configuring those macro keys, and figuring out a decent script or command to bind to one of them to serve as a sleep button.
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Does anyone know what happened to Enermax? I tried to find a replacement for my Aurora which is getting beat up, only to find that it seems to have been discontinued in 2008 and is now impossible to find. Enermax still shows their entire keyboard range in their online product catalogue but at retail its like they bailed out of the industry entirely.
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WanderingKid posted:Does anyone know what happened to Enermax? I tried to find a replacement for my Aurora which is getting beat up, only to find that it seems to have been discontinued in 2008 and is now impossible to find. Enermax still shows their entire keyboard range in their online product catalogue but at retail its like they bailed out of the industry entirely. They may have bailed out of physical retail, but they still have their own section on Newegg, and a lot of products on Amazon.
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ugh... My son dumped a 44oz soda all over my desk and killed my keyboard. everything is fine except for the A,Q and Z buttons, which no longer respond at all. I took it as an excuse to replace my Unicomp Customizer (IBM Model M redux) with their Space Saver model. Same Buckling Spring keys but with a smaller form factor. The customizer was great, but it was a little too big for my tiny space. I almost bought a Filco Tenkeyless board, but couldn't justify the price when the Unicomp boards are brilliant to type on at half the price. Also, this lovely oem HP keyboard is like being punished.
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Sir Unimaginative posted:They may have bailed out of physical retail, but they still have their own section on Newegg, and a lot of products on Amazon. I just checked Amazon.com and you are right. I'm thinking they have forsaken the EU market because Amazon.co.uk don't have squat, nor does Dabs.com nor do I get any hits outside US sites and one or two from eBay through google shopping. I am crushed.
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So elitekeyboards is out of the brown filco tenkeyless (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=filco_keyboards,majestouch_87key&pid=fkbn87meb) and they haven't responded to me about when they're going to be getting more in stock. How much louder are the blues compared to the browns? And does anyone have an idea how much louder the blues would be with the o-ring mod? I looked around for Youtube videos with little success, and I'm getting really bored of typing on this Illuminated keyboard considering a few of the keys broke and I had to switch ones from the numpad around. Alternatively, if someone knows of another retailer that sells the Filco tenkeyless with the cherry brown switches that would be amazing. Rakuten is all I found online and if possible, I'd prefer to not deal with ordering something from Japan.
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Why all the love for the space savers with no ten key? I love my ten key, and don't want to let it go. Contemplated buying a Filco for home. I have some random keyboard by ABS that has mechanical springs at work and it's the best drat thing ever. Even if my boss has compared the sound of my typing to "Optimus Prime pleasuring himself with a jackhammer."
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Citizen Z posted:Why all the love for the space savers with no ten key? Because it looks nicer and saves some desk space is my reason.
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Citizen Z posted:Why all the love for the space savers with no ten key? I have a numpad on my keyboard, I never use it.
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coldfire07 posted:So elitekeyboards is out of the brown filco tenkeyless (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=filco_keyboards,majestouch_87key&pid=fkbn87meb) and they haven't responded to me about when they're going to be getting more in stock. I can't give you any direct information regarding Blue Vs Brown Cherry MX switches as I never even seen a brown switch, but I do have a Filco Tenkeyless with blue switches for my home desk. I find the blue switches to be nearly as loud as my Unicomp Spacesaver with less effort in key depression (while only slightly). So yes, I would classify them as loud, but man is it a pleasant typing experience. As I can't fully answer your questions I can direct to another forum that will provide all the keyboard info you need http://geekhack.org/ . At geekhack there is an entire thread dedicated to discussion on the availability of the Filco Tenkeyless with Cherry MX Brown switches.
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coldfire07 posted:How much louder are the blues compared to the browns? And does anyone have an idea how much louder the blues would be with the o-ring mod? I would say that the volume of the blues and the browns are quite similar, except the blues will make twice as many clicks. Blues with o-rings would probably sound close to browns without o-rings.
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Is there a type of keyboard with good resistance/tactile feedback and that's quiet? The keyboard I have is a $10 generic thing with keys that depress if I just rest my hands on the homerow, but I like the silence of these membrane keyboards.
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Some dillweed posted:Is there a type of keyboard with good resistance/tactile feedback and that's quiet? The keyboard I have is a $10 generic thing with keys that depress if I just rest my hands on the homerow, but I like the silence of these membrane keyboards. I believe cherry browns + o-rings on all the keys will get a fairly quiet keyboard, but I only have reviews in this thread to go on. The traits you're asking for are mutually exclusive to some extent.
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kapinga posted:I believe cherry browns + o-rings on all the keys will get a fairly quiet keyboard, but I only have reviews in this thread to go on. The traits you're asking for are mutually exclusive to some extent. There's more than just cherry switches. Topre are nice from my understanding, they are similar to a membrane keyboard, but with springs for each key, and the membrane is "snappy" when you depress it. Should be quieter than a full on mechanical switch, but no cheaper.
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You weren't kidding when you said they're not cheaper. A Topre Realforce is about double the cost of a Filco at elitekeyboards.
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coldfire07 posted:How much louder are the blues compared to the browns? And does anyone have an idea how much louder the blues would be with the o-ring mod? Can't really talk about the o-ring mod, but I have both a blue and brown key Filco and the blues are noisier, but I don't think either are noisy enough to distract or piss me off while typing. No-one in my office complains about me typing, but I do work in an office of pretty laid-back people. I'd say that if you ask yourself the question as to whether you're a fussy or an awkward person compared to the next guy, the blue switches won't be an issue. They're louder, but you might just find it satisfyingly louder anyway 
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