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Beeswax
Dec 29, 2005

Grimey Drawer

Idioteque Dance posted:

Good thing the topic is about standup at the moment because that's what I came here to ask. Stewart Lee is my favourite standup artist going and I love his brand of alternative comedy. In that regard I love Richard Herring's shows too due to it being a different kind of humour, aside from the usual observational standup.

What I want to ask is which alterative standup artists I look into next, with Stewart Lee being a favourite? I know he's getting quite popular again but his style is still really something else (and I absolutely loving love it).

Speaking of Jimmy Carr, I did watch his latest the other day, as by now you can go into his show with reasonable expectations knowing it's going to be an easy-watching one-liner fest, and is it just me or was he really struggling with his style this tour? There's so much recycled material, poor jokes and basically no evolution (understandable) or actual improvement of jokes from his previous works. He was also way softer on the audience.

My go-to recommendation is (perhaps predictably) Simon Munnery. He's collaborated with Stewart Lee on stuff in the past and is an absolute joy to behold most of the time. His stye is a long way from Lee's monotonous repetition but I love them both.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga-LLG0HS0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_fFx-Nq1GM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h676I2T0F-8

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goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Adam Bloom's done at least one radio 4 series.

Akuma
Sep 11, 2001


I don't watch Hollyoaks, but sometimes it gets left on while I'm doing stuff, and the episode that's just finishing now is actually not completely poo poo. Except for the cheesy, unnecessary flashback-voiceover just now.

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

Adrianics posted:

I went to the Birmingham Glee Club last month and saw a stand-up called Adam Bloom who had me shrieking with laughter, but he doesn't seem to do any television stuff.

Adam Bloom was on TV a lot in the mid 90s on Stand Up shows, like Live At Jongleurs. I really liked him, but having seen him a lot he's basically still doing the same material.
He was on Mock the Week and he told jokes that I'd already heard - and I hadn't seen him for about a decade.

lol but
Feb 24, 2007

body is a dinosaur
Slippery Tilde

Oben posted:

Daniel Kitson

He's really really good, go see him. Though I've only seen his stand-up/compering, not one of his theatrical-type "story shows."

fuf posted:

People talk about this guy being the best comedian ever, but he refuses to do anything for TV so I've never been able to see him. It's pretty annoying. I think he needs to get over it.

It gives him time to write a ridiculous amount of material, though. Material I will never see.

EDIT: poo poo, this thread has totally over-hyped him now.

FelixMeOneMoreTime
May 11, 2010

Akuma posted:

I don't watch Hollyoaks, but sometimes it gets left on while I'm doing stuff, and the episode that's just finishing now is actually not completely poo poo. Except for the cheesy, unnecessary flashback-voiceover just now.

I turn it on occasionally to see how far the writers can go when changing a character. For example, the nice Geordie teacher suddenly turned into a violent racist who wanted to stop an interracial marriage, in a transition that was literally overnight. Loretta turned from a nice former stripper who wants to leave her past behind and fall in love, to being a possessive psychopath, all in the course of a week.

A nice example of original writing is the man who arrived in Hollyoaks, claimed he was an alien, and got Elliot a job at NASA.

But it is impressive how many different styles they use for the opening scenes. It's a shame the show turns into a clusterfuck after 40 seconds.

Flatscan
Mar 27, 2001

Outlaw Journalist

FelixMeOneMoreTime posted:

A nice example of original writing is the man who arrived in Hollyoaks, claimed he was an alien, and got Elliot a job at NASA.

What the gently caress?

7seven7
May 19, 2006

I barfed because you looked in my eyes!

Adrianics posted:

Stand-Up chat: Gina Yashere is a billion times funnier live than she ever was on Mock The Week.

Get the gently caress out. Gina "I'M NIGERIAN DON'T YOU KNOW" Yashere is like a loving comedy black hole. Any time she has opened her incredibly gummy mouth it has been as if humour as a concept has been nullified.

Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

I think
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Akuma posted:

I don't watch Hollyoaks, but sometimes it gets left on while I'm doing stuff, and the episode that's just finishing now is actually not completely poo poo. Except for the cheesy, unnecessary flashback-voiceover just now.
I actually watched a bit of it for the first time in ages yesterday and it seemed worse than ever. Lots of new characters who really can't act have come in and the storylines are still mental. Something about a 12 year old girl who is pregnant and someone is annoyed about it because she can't have a baby and tried to steal one once. This was all just mentioned in casual conversation as well. Also somebody appears to have come back from the dead.

keveh
Sep 14, 2004

If you have a problem.....
Yeah but it has got hotties in it.

Adrianics
Aug 15, 2006

Affirmative. Yes. Yo. Right on. My man.

7seven7 posted:

Get the gently caress out. Gina "I'M NIGERIAN DON'T YOU KNOW" Yashere is like a loving comedy black hole. Any time she has opened her incredibly gummy mouth it has been as if humour as a concept has been nullified.

Believe you and me, I was just as surprised as you are.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Beeswax posted:

My go-to recommendation is (perhaps predictably) Simon Munnery. He's collaborated with Stewart Lee on stuff in the past and is an absolute joy to behold most of the time. His stye is a long way from Lee's monotonous repetition but I love them both.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga-LLG0HS0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_fFx-Nq1GM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h676I2T0F-8

I saw Stewart Lee in Leicester a few weeks ago, and unknown to me he was supported by Simon Munnery, who was very funny even though most the audience had no idea who he was.
I'm hoping Stewart Lee's material about his Japanese hating, crisp loving grandfather makes it to his new series, along with his David Cameron story.

Padje
Sep 10, 2003

I don't much care for the attitude of filthy money-lenders

Brown Moses posted:

I saw Stewart Lee in Leicester a few weeks ago, and unknown to me he was supported by Simon Munnery, who was very funny even though most the audience had no idea who he was.
I'm hoping Stewart Lee's material about his Japanese hating, crisp loving grandfather makes it to his new series, along with his David Cameron story.

I've actually seen Munnery twice this year, and met him. The first was above a pub where he did a sub 15 minute set. They were the same jokes I saw him roll out at the Stewart Lee gig, but they just did not work outside the context of a full live performance, and it don't go over too well with the small crowd. I'd written him off until his set at Vegetable Stew.

Idioteque Dance, if you haven't seen Lee on the Vegetable Stew tour (I believe it's now on in Leicester Square for 2 months) you should really go, especially as Munnery should still be the support. As mentioned numerous times, Daniel Kitson is another clever comedian not pandering to the Michael McIntyre crowd. Be quick, as he sells out straight away. Doug Stanhope is the complete opposite of Lee in terms of delivery, choosing to ramble in whatever direction he feels, rather than meticulously stick to the arrangement of each word, but has a similar mindset. You can get one of his dvds for a few quid on amazon.

I don't think I like anyone as much as Stewart Lee though.

"it's been 97 years since a horse trampled a woman to death in the name of democracy"

Tim Key is funny in videos, but the short stand up I saw of his felt unprepared. He's a nice guy though. I've seen about 20 stand ups this year but I've forgotten the names of most.

Padje fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Dec 2, 2010

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Doug Stanhope is playing some dates in the UK next year. I saw him several years ago at what I think was his first UK gig, in Leicester. I sat in the front row, and he starred intensely at me as he ranted his "gently caress someone uglier than you" bit. Some random girl opened the door to the room halfway through, and shouted an anti-war slogan (it was the day of the massiev anti-Iraq war march in london) and he riffed on that in a really funny way.

Akuma
Sep 11, 2001


Flatscan posted:

What the gently caress?
Yeah he just insisted he was an alien and acted all "crazy humans and your emotions I do not understand basic human interaction." it was pretty stupid.

I'm just hoping it'll eventually turn completely loving insane like Night and Day did. They're halfway there already.

Flatscan
Mar 27, 2001

Outlaw Journalist

Akuma posted:

Yeah he just insisted he was an alien and acted all "crazy humans and your emotions I do not understand basic human interaction." it was pretty stupid.

I'm just hoping it'll eventually turn completely loving insane like Night and Day did. They're halfway there already.

Sounds like it's going the way of that American soap that has mermaids and knights templar and visits from the pope.

Fyuz
Dec 15, 2004

Anyone seen Alun Cochrane live? I saw his bit from Edinburgh & Beyond on Youtube years ago and it was excellent, but he seems to have dropped off the radar completely. I am watching it again and it is still piss funny.

Oh and Hollyoaks is awesome.

keveh
Sep 14, 2004

If you have a problem.....

Fyuz posted:

Anyone seen Alun Cochrane live? I saw his bit from Edinburgh & Beyond on Youtube years ago and it was excellent, but he seems to have dropped off the radar completely. I am watching it again and it is still piss funny.

I saw him about 5 - 6 months ago, he was practising new material I think. He was pretty good.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

Flatscan posted:

Sounds like it's going the way of that American soap that has mermaids and knights templar and visits from the pope.

Speaking of American Soaps, I swear there was a pre-Darkplace era British eighties Hospital comedy that took the piss out of them to the max. Like full on Naked Gun spoofing.

eating only apples
Dec 12, 2009

Shall we dance?
Hollyoaks is incredible.

Warren died in a fire, but actually he didn't, it was someone else's horribly charred body and Warren escaped. And Theresa saw the whole thing. This happened months ago and she just hasn't mentioned it til now. Some blackmail nonsense.

Speaking of Theresa, she slept with her cousin Carmel's fiance, and got pregnant. Said fiance also had an affair with Mercedes, Carmel's sister. Then Theresa shot him dead. Carmel is now looking after Theresa's baby. Mercedes's husband died recently, but no one really seems to care all that much.

A 12-year-old is pregnant by another 12-year-old.

A boy found out that his best mate is actually his half brother because his dad has been living a double life with two families.

There's a girl who wants to be a boy. She's going around kissing other boys while dressed as a boy.

Dom set fire to his restaurant because Bart told him he'd found kiddy porn on his laptop. Steph, who had terminal cancer, died in the fire (she rescued some kids then refused to come out of the house even though her husband was at the window pleading with her to get out), and Malachy (Mercedes's husband mentioned above) got blown up, or something. Now Dom's in jail.

Brendan, the moustache-twirling villain of the piece, has been fooling around with Ste. Now Ste used to date Amy and had a kid with her, but then he smacked her around a bit so that ended. Since then he's been sleeping with lots of girls (including Amy again for a bit). Now he's gay. Not bisexual, as you might think considering his womanising past, he's gay. With Brendan. Who's denying it. Of course.

Half the cast got written out a little while back, and they brought in a whole bunch of new people who really can't act. Along with them came these amazing storylines.

It's loving batshit. Goddamn highlight of my day. :allears:

Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

I think
your hair
looks much
better
pushed
over to
one side
lmao

is Dom really a paedo or was he set up? always thought he was written as one of the best people in there. Pretty much everyone in Hollyoaks has done at least a few things that make them loving terrible people though

Akuma
Sep 11, 2001


He was set up. Also I thought it was his brother's restaurant he set fire to? Because the business had tanked and he'd be able to claim on the insurance and be alright.

The girl that wants to be a boy is hilarious, her idea of serious acting is literally :stare:

Akuma fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Dec 2, 2010

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo
Re Simon Munnery, does he still do The League Against Tedium thing with the minature video camera on the screen? I remember that from stand up shows on TV in the 90s.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

He just did straight up stand up when I saw him, very good though.

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.

eating only apples posted:

It's loving batshit. Goddamn highlight of my day. :allears:

Ah man, I remember back in the day.

G1 hollyoaks. The first cast from 1995 (I was 13 when it started OK?). Always had a bit of a soft spot for the completely mental Lucy/Rob storyline:

wikipedia posted:

After being involved in the accident that caused the death of Dermot, Lucy soon wised up to Rob, and even shopped him to the police. It was Lucy and Kurt’s role in seeking revenge that caused Rob to be thrown off a car park roof by his drug dealers. Unbeknown to Lucy and Kurt, this marked the beginning of his vendetta against the Bensons – an obsession that would continue throughout his life. With Rob well and truly out of her life, though, Lucy returned to normal. She started a band with Carol Groves and Bazz FM and was happy that things seemed to be going her way.

But Lucy's happiness in Hollyoaks was short lived. Her life was turned upside down when her younger brother Ollie was killed in a car crash. Lucy blamed herself for the accident, as she encouraged Kurt to chase after him. Lucy found it difficult to get over Ollie’s death, and ended up turning to Rob for support. He offered Lucy some tranquillisers to get her through difficult times. Once she was well and truly hooked on to them, Rob upped the dosage to heroin and so began a downward spiral that would eventually put Lucy in coma. As Lucy finally weaned herself off heroin, she attempted to piece her life back together.

However, Rob Hawthorne was to cause further trouble when he trapped Lucy, Lewis Richardson, Ruth Osborne and Tony Hutchinson in a watertank. They managed to free themselves, but afterwards Lucy lived in constant fear of Rob and what he may do next. She was finally freed from this worry, when Rob died as he tried to set fire to Finn’s bus on the eve of the new Millennium. Lucy was both excited and terrified at the prospect of a life without Rob, and began to realise that her fear of him had been holding her back.

That rather dry summary fails to capture how completely batshit the entire plot was, with Rob being portrayed as essentially a psychotic killer, turning the entire thing into a kind of silence of the lambs thriller for episodes at a time.

The Lewis/Ruth saga which culmintaed with him beating her half to death while on a massive alcohol fueled bender then trying to kill himself with paracetamol, failing, changing his mind then dying anyway of slow painful liver failure from the pills was also a HOOT.

Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

I think
your hair
looks much
better
pushed
over to
one side
yeah I love how every so often Hollyoaks introduces a character that is just completely mental and ends up killing a few people, usually in a fire.

Padje
Sep 10, 2003

I don't much care for the attitude of filthy money-lenders

Fatkraken posted:

Ah man, I remember back in the day.

G1 hollyoaks. The first cast from 1995 (I was 13 when it started OK?). Always had a bit of a soft spot for the completely mental Lucy/Rob storyline:


That rather dry summary fails to capture how completely batshit the entire plot was, with Rob being portrayed as essentially a psychotic killer, turning the entire thing into a kind of silence of the lambs thriller for episodes at a time.

The Lewis/Ruth saga which culmintaed with him beating her half to death while on a massive alcohol fueled bender then trying to kill himself with paracetamol, failing, changing his mind then dying anyway of slow painful liver failure from the pills was also a HOOT.

Rob was great when I was 16. Proper tits-off psychological nutcase. I remember my mum having a go at me for watching the episode where Lucy goes cold turkey.

FelixMeOneMoreTime
May 11, 2010

Akuma posted:

He was set up. Also I thought it was his brother's restaurant he set fire to? Because the business had tanked and he'd be able to claim on the insurance and be alright.

The girl that wants to be a boy is hilarious, her idea of serious acting is literally :stare:

Yeah, Dom was set up so became stressed and upset, so much so that he decided to help Tony out by burning the restaurant down, but he didn't know Tony had gas cylinders in the kitchen. Tony was arrested on suspicion of starting the fire, but Dom came forward and admitted he did it, Tony was freed, now Tony is mad at Bart for setting Dom up. Everyone is pressuring Bart to turn himself in, but he ran away. Warren Fox is back on the prowl, being evil for literally no reason.

Akuma
Sep 11, 2001


So Warren is the guy that stabbed the other dude in the gut (visibly) and threw his body in the fire? That was pretty full-on for tea time viewing.

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.

Akuma posted:

So Warren is the guy that stabbed the other dude in the gut (visibly) and threw his body in the fire? That was pretty full-on for tea time viewing.

They sometimes do late night specials. Essentially it's the same total madness, but with added sex and violence.

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009
The most insane I remember Hollyoaks being was when Jacks step daughter started having an affair with her twin brother before realising who it was. It was a whole wek of more and more ridiculous reveals of people not being biologically related or being related but not knowing. It's almost definitely got more ridiculous since but that was the pinacle for me.

The funniest thing was the helpline voice over guy at the end saying 'if you have been affected by incest and family breakdown and finding out your brother is actually your cousin please call our help line for free confidential advice'. I bet it was just a shortcut to the Jeremy Kyle show line

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.

hookerbot 5000 posted:

The funniest thing was the helpline voice over guy at the end saying 'if you have been affected by incest and family breakdown and finding out your brother is actually your cousin please call our help line for free confidential advice'. I bet it was just a shortcut to the Jeremy Kyle show line

Oh man, I LOVE that British soaps have a special helpline at the end of particularly nasty episodes. "If you have been affected by any of the issues raised in tonight's Eastenders, please call 0800 123 456 for free confidential advice".

Sure it's usually after an episode about something legitimately nasty and widespread like suicide or mental illness or domestic abuse or whatever, but sometimes you wonder if there's someone at home going "poo poo, I DID get raped, kill my rapist then have my husband fall off a roof to his death while running from the police, better call that number!"

Akuma
Sep 11, 2001


Fatkraken posted:

They sometimes do late night specials. Essentially it's the same total madness, but with added sex and violence.
Sure but this was at 6:45.

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.

Akuma posted:

Sure but this was at 6:45.

Haha, for reals? that's awesome.

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

Fatkraken posted:

They sometimes do late night specials. Essentially it's the same total madness, but with added sex and violence.

Ah yes, I remember the late night male rape special, it was the talk of my school. "You little gay bastard, I'm going to teach you a lesson you'll never forget!" Tasteful stuff.

Fatkraken posted:

Oh man, I LOVE that British soaps have a special helpline at the end of particularly nasty episodes. "If you have been affected by any of the issues raised in tonight's Eastenders, please call 0800 123 456 for free confidential advice".

Sure it's usually after an episode about something legitimately nasty and widespread like suicide or mental illness or domestic abuse or whatever, but sometimes you wonder if there's someone at home going "poo poo, I DID get raped, kill my rapist then have my husband fall off a roof to his death while running from the police, better call that number!"

They even did the helpline after the Van Gogh episode of Doctor Who. "If you have been menaced by invisible aliens, call this number" (well ok it was because the episode dealt with suicide and depression)

eating only apples
Dec 12, 2009

Shall we dance?
One of my favourite plots was when Beth cheated on Gilly with Rhys, who was actually her brother.

Then she died in a car crash.

I also liked when Lydia sabotaged a parachute, meaning to kill Zoe, but instead causing Sarah to fall to her horrible death. That was Hollyoaks Later, though.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
British soaps make us look like we have an appetite for chaotic destruction and sexual deviance of the highest order.

Oh who am I kidding. We love it.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

I was suprised when Stacey and Ryan decide to have a shag out in the open on Dots bonnett, I'm suprised their bits didn't snap off in this weather we're having.

Ponce de Le0n
Jul 6, 2008

Father jailed for beating 3 kids after they wouldn't say who farted in his car

eating only apples posted:

Hollyoaks is incredible.

Warren died in a fire, but actually he didn't, it was someone else's horribly charred body and Warren escaped. And Theresa saw the whole thing. This happened months ago and she just hasn't mentioned it til now. Some blackmail nonsense.

Speaking of Theresa, she slept with her cousin Carmel's fiance, and got pregnant. Said fiance also had an affair with Mercedes, Carmel's sister. Then Theresa shot him dead. Carmel is now looking after Theresa's baby. Mercedes's husband died recently, but no one really seems to care all that much.

A 12-year-old is pregnant by another 12-year-old.

A boy found out that his best mate is actually his half brother because his dad has been living a double life with two families.

There's a girl who wants to be a boy. She's going around kissing other boys while dressed as a boy.

Dom set fire to his restaurant because Bart told him he'd found kiddy porn on his laptop. Steph, who had terminal cancer, died in the fire (she rescued some kids then refused to come out of the house even though her husband was at the window pleading with her to get out), and Malachy (Mercedes's husband mentioned above) got blown up, or something. Now Dom's in jail.

Brendan, the moustache-twirling villain of the piece, has been fooling around with Ste. Now Ste used to date Amy and had a kid with her, but then he smacked her around a bit so that ended. Since then he's been sleeping with lots of girls (including Amy again for a bit). Now he's gay. Not bisexual, as you might think considering his womanising past, he's gay. With Brendan. Who's denying it. Of course.

Half the cast got written out a little while back, and they brought in a whole bunch of new people who really can't act. Along with them came these amazing storylines.

It's loving batshit. Goddamn highlight of my day. :allears:

I used to watch hollyoaks religiously when i was about 14 or 15, mainly because of the babes in it,but i stuck around for the insanity that went down in it.

My favourite character was "bombhead" . Copy and pasted from wikipedia.

When Bombhead's mother died, David suffered a mental breakdown. Unable to accept her death, he lived with her body and continued to act as if she were still alive, doing her dry cleaning and cooking her meals. David's only form of comfort during this time was a recurring hallucination of Gordon Cunningham, who would offer advice and try to convince Bombhead to accept what had happened and ask his friends for help

David's mother's body was eventually discovered by his friend Lee. Lee had gone round to the house thinking it would be empty so he could have sex with his friend Stacey Foxx. Stacey sat down on Mrs Burke's body and screamed. Realising what had happened, Lee and his mother Sally convinced Bombhead to move in with the Hunters. After his mother's funeral, Bombhead stopped seeing visions of Mr Cunningham.

loving lol. I love hollyoaks, i never get to watch it anymore though.

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eating only apples
Dec 12, 2009

Shall we dance?

LE0N posted:

David's mother's body was eventually discovered by his friend Lee. Lee had gone round to the house thinking it would be empty so he could have sex with his friend Stacey Foxx. Stacey sat down on Mrs Burke's body and screamed. Realising what had happened, Lee and his mother Sally convinced Bombhead to move in with the Hunters. After his mother's funeral, Bombhead stopped seeing visions of Mr Cunningham.

loving lol. I love hollyoaks, i never get to watch it anymore though.

Lee's back now, you know! And he's probably the best character in it.

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