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Good to hear. $387 for an i7 2600K that I won't upgrade for another few years sounds good to me. I think I paid maybe around $300 for my E6600 and that has been working just great for me.
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I'm kind of annoyed that Francois Piednoel from Intel still hasn't shared either code or specs for the transcoding ASIC with the x264 developers, like he said he would.
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Are these going to be the prices in the US as well or will they be cheaper? I'm thinking they would be cheaper because we don't have a VAT over here. I'm still hoping against hope for a i5-2500K for ~$200. I also have a question about the K edition processors. You can only overclock them by increasing the multiplier right? If that's the case wouldn't you run into a bottleneck at the base clock since that cannot be increased at all? I just figured a 4 or 5GHz overclock would have a bottleneck at the unchanged base clock speed or am I getting mixed up with the older Core 2 chips and their external FSB?
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Nov 25, 2010 03:24
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spasticColon posted:Are these going to be the prices in the US as well or will they be cheaper? I'm thinking they would be cheaper because we don't have a VAT over here. I'm still hoping against hope for a i5-2500K for ~$200. $200 even is a bit low, Id like to see $210 but $220-250 is more likely.
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Nov 25, 2010 04:03
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I understand it now I think, thanks for clearing that up. $250 would be acceptable if I can get a 5GHz overclock on air cooling.
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Nov 25, 2010 04:14
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Is this a normal Intel release (which means that the budget parts come last)? Because I'm shopping a laptop for my spouse at $500-600 pricepoint. In Finland, that money gets you a dual-core Celeron or AMD M320 and an integrated chipset. If we wait for a couple of months, would SB or the AMD equivalent be available at that price point (a full-sized laptop)? She's happy as long as she can watch SD resolution Flash video and DVD's but if it really performs that much better we might wait until next year.
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Nov 25, 2010 14:10
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:Not much info. on BD yet. "1 module = approx. 80% the performance of 2 cores" and that they're taking a "speed demon" (P4-esque) approach is about all we have still. Unless AMD screws up it should be a decent chip, but late. Depending on which rumors you look at its either coming late Q2 or late Q3 2011. That's disappointing. We're getting a yearly $1000 stipend from work now the first of every year to spend on computer parts for our home PCs. I was hoping to do an upgrade soon. I hope AMD gets to the market quickly so I can make a decision I won't regret...
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Nov 26, 2010 04:57
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And here's an article with the supposed launch pricing in US$. It's consistent with the Swedish prices we saw earlier, but lower, and in-line with current Lynnfield pricing.
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Nov 26, 2010 19:27
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$294 for the i7-2600 seems like the perfect landing spot
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Nov 26, 2010 22:05
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By the time the 2600K reaches retail channels it will be $500+ I'd wager (nothing)
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Nov 26, 2010 23:00
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Is hyperthreading really necessary for games? If not, I'll be getting the 2500K if is indeed $216. Edit: grammar spasticColon fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Nov 27, 2010 |
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Nov 27, 2010 17:34
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No, not really. Most games don't even use more then two physical cores. Engines even have issues: Source has wildly swinging levels of compatibility (L4D2 works great, TF2 still doesn't work properly). Starcraft 2 tops out at 2 cores. GTA4 would be the best example as its heavy in its multicore requirements. I'd want the proc for its sweet, sweet L3 cache.
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Nov 27, 2010 21:32
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Raptop posted:Sandybridge definately supports OpenCL
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Nov 27, 2010 22:51
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incoherent posted:No, not really. Most games don't even use more then two physical cores. Engines even have issues: Source has wildly swinging levels of compatibility (L4D2 works great, TF2 still doesn't work properly). Starcraft 2 tops out at 2 cores. GTA4 would be the best example as its heavy in its multicore requirements.
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Nov 28, 2010 23:12
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You Am I posted:I have found a lot of newer games, like Modern Warfare 2 and Battlefield: Bad Company 2 do run noticeably faster on quad core machines vs. dual core. Depending on how smart the scheduler is, likely boring system services and such are eating up other cores whilst the game abuses its chosen cores. On *nix I know you can force the kernel to a specific CPU/core leaving the others for your delicious user apps.
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Currently considering a hardware upgrade, since my 8 year old Opteron is starting to show its age. I'm considering an i7-980x for one good reason (I could really use the two extra cores for simulations I run) and one bad one (I'm tired of my work PC being faster than my home PC, the 980x would solve this issue). If I want the extra cores, is there any reason to wait for Sandy Bridge? For cost comparisons, is it safe to say that performance of the i7-2600 is going to be comparable to the i7-875?
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Nov 29, 2010 12:40
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I think it was on tech report, but they were showing the new SB i5s as fast as the 980x in most all situation except where it could use the extra cores and hyper threading, so I would wager a bet that the i7 ones will be just as insane and without the price premium that the 6 core beasts have.
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Alereon posted:And here's an article with the supposed launch pricing in US$. It's consistent with the Swedish prices we saw earlier, but lower, and in-line with current Lynnfield pricing. These are wholesale prices correct? One would assume they would be much more expensive on the retail level or no?
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demonachizer posted:These are wholesale prices correct? One would assume they would be much more expensive on the retail level or no?
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Marinmo posted:Those prices are at the retail level as far as I understand. At least the Swedish site that was referred to earlier was a retailer. Well it says wholesale on the link that is why I am wondering.
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demonachizer posted:These are wholesale prices correct? One would assume they would be much more expensive on the retail level or no?
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Nodoze posted:$294 for the i7-2600 seems like the perfect landing spot How much do you guys think a motherboard with support for this will go? I don't need/want crossfire/SLI.
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SRQ posted:How much do you guys think a motherboard with support for this will go? I don't need/want crossfire/SLI. Somewhere around $200 I would imagine. Asus and Gigabyte for example are pretty predictable about stratifying their product lines. You will have a base model, barebones (I don't remember if the 6 series chipsets have USB 3.0; if they don't, the base model boards may not give you a NEC controller or something) that will lack RAID, maybe cut down on the number of ports. Then you'll have a midrange model, which is usually the sweet spot. Then there'll be some high-end, fuckoff board with 4 Ethernet jacks, two BIOSs (or two EFI ROMs), BlueTooth, 3 actual x16 slots (48 motherfucking lanes), integrated RAID, FireWire, and tons of poo poo. Just don't skimp on the mobo, whatever you do. Asus and Gigabyte are safe bets for sure.
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I'm planning on buying a 2500K when it's released on January 5th, just in time for the big early January holiday sales season. I wonder what are the chances that I'll end up regretting not getting Bulldozer over this. Say, if Bulldozer is released in June 2011 and has 30%+ more price/performance. This Q6600 has been sitting in my PC for 3 years now.
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My planned build is a 2500K & GA-P67A-UD4. I'm hoping to get both for <$450. Already have the rest of the build on the way or being recycled.
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ilkhan posted:My planned build is a 2500K & GA-P67A-UD4. I'm hoping to get both for <$450. Already have the rest of the build on the way or being recycled. Should I buy DDR3 now or wait until January?
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Dr. Gaius Baltar posted:I'm planning on buying a 2500K when it's released on January 5th, just in time for the big early January holiday sales season. I wonder what are the chances that I'll end up regretting not getting Bulldozer over this. Say, if Bulldozer is released in June 2011 and has 30%+ more price/performance. http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20101105133510_AMD_to_Start_Production_of_Desktop_Bulldozer_Microprocessors_in_April.html posted:Production candidates should be ready by February and the initial production of the company's first desktop microprocessors powered by the long-awaited Bulldozer micro-architecture is scheduled to start in April next year. Probably, the launch of the chip will occur around the same timeframe.
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movax posted:Should I buy DDR3 now or wait until January? Prices are dropping, it may be better to wait unless you find a great deal.
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Dr. Gaius Baltar posted:I'm planning on buying a 2500K when it's released on January 5th, just in time for the big early January holiday sales season. I wonder what are the chances that I'll end up regretting not getting Bulldozer over this. Say, if Bulldozer is released in June 2011 and has 30%+ more price/performance. movax posted:Should I buy DDR3 now or wait until January?
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Combat Pretzel posted:From what I've read, their OpenCL implementation will use SSE and AVX, not the integrated GPU. What you read is bullshit; it really does use the Gen core. I wrote that after sitting through a technical presentation by the compiler team working on it
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Dr. Gaius Baltar posted:I'm planning on buying a 2500K when it's released on January 5th, just in time for the big early January holiday sales season. I wonder what are the chances that I'll end up regretting not getting Bulldozer over this. Say, if Bulldozer is released in June 2011 and has 30%+ more price/performance. Personally I like AMD since I tend to shoot for bang for the buck, but I'll probably get SB too. ~$215 for the K version of SB i5 will offer some pretty bad rear end bang for the buck if you can get anywhere near 5Ghz like the one Intel has been showing off. I would think you could get a "budget" SB mobo for around $140 at launch, the OC'er ones, sure they'll cost around $200 easy. At least it'll still take DDR3, and with the K versions you just use the multiplier to OC, so I can technically save some money there. Jumped at the 8GB DDR3 1333 for $90 a while back. I don't think it'll get much lower than that really. e: yea its gone up to $100 for the same kit. It might drop down again but I doubt it. PC LOAD LETTER fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Dec 8, 2010 |
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Alereon posted:Wait, prices are still dropping pretty steadily and will be for the near future. Maybe I'm missing it, but where? I've seen limited 2gb pairs for $50 on sale in the past week or so, but I could have swore that this was the normal price this summer. Most I see is still in the $70-80 range for 4gb. Even the deal I got from newegg went up to $60 the next week.
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Ryokurin posted:Maybe I'm missing it, but where? I've seen limited 2gb pairs for $50 on sale in the past week or so, but I could have swore that this was the normal price this summer. Most I see is still in the $70-80 range for 4gb. Even the deal I got from newegg went up to $60 the next week.
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Alereon posted:The DDR3 DRAM market is in a steady price decline that isn't expected to end until the first or even second quarter of 2011. Granted wholesale DRAM price isn't the price you pay at Newegg, but they're related like the price of gas is to the price of oil. In the first half of the year the wholesale price of 2GB of DDR3 was $46.50, by the beginning of November it was down to $25, and the price is expected to fall to $20 by the end of the year. Awesome. The reason I inquired was that I didn't want to miss the price valley before DDR3 prices started climbing again. Guess I'll order that kit come January along with new mobo and CPU.
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Is a special motherboard going to be required to utilize the K edition processors? A mid-range board for around $100 would be nice and I don't need SLI, Crossfire, RAID, or USB 3.0 just the ability to utilize the unlocked multiplier. And two accessible PCI slots for my wireless card and sound card which probably means a full ATX board since my video card has a two-slot cooler. One more question, will that Cooler Master Hyper 212P work with the new socket 1155?
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spasticColon posted:Is a special motherboard going to be required to utilize the K edition processors? A mid-range board for around $100 would be nice and I don't need SLI, Crossfire, RAID, or USB 3.0 just the ability to utilize the unlocked multiplier. And two accessible PCI slots for my wireless card and sound card which probably means a full ATX board since my video card has a two-slot cooler. One more question, will that Cooler Master Hyper 212P work with the new socket 1155? Likely not, but you'll want one that lets you have granular control of voltages and the FSB along with ratio splits and all that other fun stuff. Just wait until they're out for a bit and see what people recommend because in addition to those features some boards will be better suited for going above spec ratings.
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The coolers do share the same mounting holes so should fit.
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Ryokurin posted:Maybe I'm missing it, but where? I've seen limited 2gb pairs for $50 on sale in the past week or so, but I could have swore that this was the normal price this summer. Most I see is still in the $70-80 range for 4gb. Even the deal I got from newegg went up to $60 the next week. Newegg is showing 1x4GB chips fro 50 bucks a pop most with free shipping. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ICE&PageSize=20
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Blargh. If I want the variants with bigger cache, I also get hyperthreading.
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Combat Pretzel posted:Blargh. If I want the variants with bigger cache, I also get hyperthreading. Yeah I'm not sold on HT, especially for gaming, but you can usually switch it off in BIOS.
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