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Catfish, I haven't assembled my computer yet, when I do I'm up for trying some HoN or LoL. I'm not sure how high my ping will be though if I play with you guys :/
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Barrelfox posted:I'm still rocking an 8800GTS from three years ago. I'm playing Bad Company 2 from the Steam sale - it runs acceptably and seems much more optimised graphically than BF2 was - though I am using medium graphical settings and a modest screen resolution. This is late but you WILL be bottlenecked by a dual core processor with a GTX460 on a good number of very modern games that use a large quantity of processing power to make for the weak graphics hardware in the Xbox360. Bad Company 2 is a prime example of it. You won't be able to max your graphics card usage % with a dual core in this game, since it's been coded to have like one core handle the sound at least. Not only that but the more powerful your graphics card becomes, the more data it sends out to your processor. An already stressed processor won't be able to handle Bad Company 2 at a good framerate (60 fps) on decently good looking settings, even with a beastly video card. You can tell you're processor bottlenecked when you end up with the same performance regardless of video settings, either high or low yields roughly the same FPS. Farm Frenzy posted:my computer from 2008 with a quad core, medium range graphics card and 4 gigs of ram can still run pretty much every AAA game on very high so I'd say its already happening Sadly for me "running every AAA game on high" means running them at a rock steady 60+ fps (with or without v-sync), and in that department I still can't do it comfortably at 1920x1080 for most of them with: i5 750 overclocked at 3.8ghz HD 5870 with latest drivers 4gb Ram Most notably: Borderlands (Atrociously unstable framerate. Have to at the very least disable dynamic shadows or else it drops to 40ish in the distance. Forcing AA through the ATI control pannel, while pretty, makes the game lose about 40% performance by slice of x2 AA added. Clearly was not coded for that.) Bad Company 2 (Still cannot max this out and remain over 60 fps with smoke and explosions. Drops to 30ish fps. Forced to turn HBAO off and shadows to medium.) Any 3d Total War Game (Napoleon runs like rear end and always has. Rome and Medieval 2 still chug down in large fights even with modern hardware) GTA 4 (Basically all around a terrible port) Civilization 5 (Doesn't hold a steady framerate into the late game) Need for Speed : Hot Pursuit (Don't add anything over 4x AA(forced) or it will slow down tremendously) Athropos fucked around with this message at 10:41 on Dec 28, 2010 |
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Im still rocking a singlecore.
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# ? Dec 28, 2010 16:59 |
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Athropos posted:Sadly for me "running every AAA game on high" means running them at a rock steady 60+ fps (with or without v-sync), and in that department I still can't do it comfortably at 1920x1080 for most of them with: i7 920 @ 2.66 4870 512 GB 4 GB RAM but running at 1680x1050. Not to get all , I don't think I have any game that isn't on mostly high (or ultra high) settings, Borderlands and Civ5 included, that have any framerate issues.
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# ? Dec 28, 2010 17:24 |
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TigSource has a pretty good list of indie games of 2010, many of them free. Many of which I passed over, but am now taking a second glance at: http://www.tigsource.com/2010/12/31/top-indie-games-of-2010-according-to-the-tigsource-forums/
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# ? Jan 2, 2011 02:04 |
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Would I notice a difference in FPS greatly if I upgraded from a 19 in. normal screen [1280x1024] to a 21 inch screen, and change the resolution to whatever the 21 in. native res is? Also, is it too hard to find a 21 in. normal screen? I pretty much hate widescreens because they look like utter crap on smaller displays. Not sure if thats the case with a 21 in. screen... Oh, specs for refrence: i7 930 proc Ati Radeon HD5870 6GB RAM ASUS X58 mobo WD Black HDD Currently, I can throw about any game at it, and it will play it on max with great FPS. Just wondering if i'll have to sacrifice with a bigger screen. [19 inches is large enough for me in gaming, but a little small for the other things I do on it.]
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# ? Jan 2, 2011 02:32 |
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Avocadoes posted:Would I notice a difference in FPS greatly if I upgraded from a 19 in. normal screen [1280x1024] to a 21 inch screen, and change the resolution to whatever the 21 in. native res is? Widescreen is preferable for 21". The only reason widescreen would look like poo poo is if the app is stretching to do widescreen, in which case you can set your res to a 4:3 one and set your GPU to keep aspect ratio. Also, the power needed for Resolution X will be the same no matter the screen size. If you get 73 FPS at 800x600, for instance, on a 16" screen, you'll get 73FPS at 800x600 on a 50" screen. So it all depends on the native res of your new monitor. I recently switched from a 1280x1024 5:4(It was $20 from a friend) to a 1920x1080 native res widescreen and while I got lower FPS on GTA IV and Crysis, not much else dropped for me and I'm on an Athlon II x4 and a 4850, so mine's a bit weaker than yours. EDIT: And adding my own question, why did ATi change it so you can only do fixed aspect ratios over a digital connection now? I normally play my old games that need widescreen correction on my netbook, but I just installed Beyond Good and Evil on my desktop with a widescreen hooked up through VGA and it won't let me set that setting because of it. :\ A Fancy 400 lbs fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Jan 2, 2011 |
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Times posted:Yeah. The only reason IMO to ever buy nonshitty 'gaming' type stuff is for aesthetics. If you're willing to pay extra for having it look neat, such as with art from your favorite game on it, that's all right I guess. Speaking of aesthetics, I mentioned earlier I'd like to find a neat looking wired 360 controller but after considering it I realized I'd rather pocket the extra money to buy on more games or other things. I just bought this logitech F350 controller for $15, and I'm pretty satisfied with it so far, works great for geometry wars.
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# ? Jan 2, 2011 04:24 |
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What's the best Quad Core processor to buy for cheap, without the intent of overcloaking, to get a nice upgrade from my E8400 dual core?
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# ? Jan 2, 2011 04:26 |
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Brace posted:What's the best Quad Core processor to buy for cheap, without the intent of overcloaking, to get a nice upgrade from my E8400 dual core? I know the Athlon II X4 640 is only $100 right now. That would require a new motherboard to go with it, though.
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# ? Jan 2, 2011 04:32 |
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Brace posted:What's the best Quad Core processor to buy for cheap, without the intent of overcloaking, to get a nice upgrade from my E8400 dual core? If you aren't at least going an i5-i7, I don't see the real bump in performance to make it worth the hassle if you aren't going to overclock.
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# ? Jan 2, 2011 07:08 |
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Avocadoes posted:Would I notice a difference in FPS greatly if I upgraded from a 19 in. normal screen [1280x1024] to a 21 inch screen, and change the resolution to whatever the 21 in. native res is? Depends on the game, settings and resolution of the monitor, but the 5870 is a solid card and can easily handle 1920x1200 or less in the vast majority of modern games. As for the monitor, Dell might have some, I know I have a 21" Dell 4:3 LCD but it's probably 5 years old now. I'd suggest going 16:10.
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# ? Jan 2, 2011 07:12 |
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Not overclocking a E8400 is pretty silly, anyway. A overclocked E8xxx matches a Q6600 even in games that can utilize quad-cores well and for everything else it's perfectly fine.
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# ? Jan 2, 2011 07:14 |
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Srebrenica Surprise posted:Not overclocking a E8400 is pretty silly, anyway. A overclocked E8xxx matches a Q6600 even in games that can utilize quad-cores well and for everything else it's perfectly fine. Agreed. Cheaper and easier source of performance to buy a nice heatsink/fan and ramp it up to 4.0
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# ? Jan 2, 2011 07:16 |
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I was thinking of an AMD Phenom II X4 Deneb (9xx)... L3 cache unlike the Propus models (the 6xx's), though the cost is more like $120 (920 Socket AM2+) -186 (Black Edition 970 Socket AM3). Mindja I want a processor for gaming while I have a poo poo ton of browser tabs/windows open... What IS the AMD equivalent of Core i5-i7 anyway? Socket compatibilities have been why I've stuck with AMD... Currently using an AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000 Brisbane (Socket AM2) on a Socket AM2/AM2+/"AM3 Ready" motherboard. (My computer thinks it's a 5050e, and Core Temp thinks it's a 5050B... that's nonexistent... unless I've been looking at the wrong box this whole time.) Stock heatsink and fan btw. P.S. Are there Socket AM3 boards that are NOT AM2/AM2+ backwards compatible?
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# ? Jan 2, 2011 13:24 |
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Chortles posted:I was thinking of an AMD Phenom II X4 Deneb (9xx)... L3 cache unlike the Propus models (the 6xx's), though the cost is more like $120 (920 Socket AM2+) -186 (Black Edition 970 Socket AM3). Mindja I want a processor for gaming while I have a poo poo ton of browser tabs/windows open... I play Crysis maxed at 1080p maxed with Chrome open in the background with normally about 6-7 tabs on an Athlon II X4 620(no L3 cache, sadly bought after they finally took it off completely instead of just locking it). I get closer to 30-45 FPS than 45-60, so if you're a MUST BE OVER 60 AAAARGH kinda gamer, your idea is better, but you can even go a little lower if you're fine with sub 60 frame rates.
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# ? Jan 2, 2011 21:56 |
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Are there any good soundcards priced below $50? I've never bothered going beyond onboard sound before and am pretty horrified when looking online and seeing sound cards at the same price points as top line video cards.
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# ? Jan 2, 2011 22:02 |
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Der Luftwaffle posted:Are there any good soundcards priced below $50? I've never bothered going beyond onboard sound before and am pretty horrified when looking online and seeing sound cards at the same price points as top line video cards. None really worth buying if you already have onboard 5.1.
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# ? Jan 2, 2011 22:08 |
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Der Luftwaffle posted:Are there any good soundcards priced below $50? I've never bothered going beyond onboard sound before and am pretty horrified when looking online and seeing sound cards at the same price points as top line video cards. Asus Xonar cards are very reasonably priced. If you use headphones the Xonar DG is exceptionally good value, has a built in headphone amp and supports Dolby Headphone virtual surround, which married with a good set of phones sounds better than 'proper' 5.1 headsets.
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# ? Jan 2, 2011 23:24 |
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seregrail7 posted:None really worth buying if you already have onboard 5.1. If this isn't an option, grab an Audigy 2 ZS on eBay for cheap and use it with the daniel_k drivers. And when you connect to your receiver (if you're using one), this and this will let you connect via digital coax using the digital-out jack. Works perfectly with Windows 7, and I get all the fancy surround modes with games that support it
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# ? Jan 2, 2011 23:28 |
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Lilac posted:The logitech G9/G9x mice have turned me off razer products forever. This makes no sense. Why would a Logitech mouse turn you off of Razer products forever?
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# ? Jan 3, 2011 00:57 |
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Speaking of soundcards, I figured this would be a good place to ask - are there any soundcards below $100 (way below $100 if possible!) with MIDI input? A good USB/MIDI interface costs about $50, so I figure I might as well get a soundcard out of the deal.
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# ? Jan 3, 2011 00:59 |
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Mooktastical posted:This makes no sense. Why would a Logitech mouse turn you off of Razer products forever? I assume he means "so much better I wouldn't consider Razer again."
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# ? Jan 3, 2011 01:01 |
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I recently bought Crysis during the Steam sale and have a question, is there a way to switch crouch to a toggle instead of having to hold the button down? I didn't see anything on the options
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# ? Jan 3, 2011 01:05 |
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I just bought a mini wireless keyboard trackpad thing, I hope it enhances my PC from the sofa experience a little bit. I am still holding onto that dream...
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# ? Jan 3, 2011 01:14 |
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So I bought myself a Logitech Cordless Desktop LX310 Laser wireless mouse + keyboard combo since I was getting tired of my mouse and keyboard getting tangled in with my DVD drive and my 360 controller's USB cords. It's really nice, especially since it's one receiver for both objects. The main thing I like is that Mouse 3 and Mouse 4 are on top of Mouse 0 and Mouse 1, meaning I can use the same fingers as I use to left and right click to hit them. The keyboard also allows you to toggle the F keys between normal F keys and programmable macro keys with the hit of a button. It's not a serious gaming setup, but it's a great midway point between a general use setup and a gaming one, especially considering the $45 pricetag I picked it up for. EDIT: Oh, and the mouse wheel tilts for horizontal scrolling. It's totally bitchin'. A Fancy 400 lbs fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Jan 3, 2011 |
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Samurai Sanders posted:I just bought a mini wireless keyboard trackpad thing, I hope it enhances my PC from the sofa experience a little bit. I am still holding onto that dream... I've been looking for one of these. Link it if you wouldn't mind. I've been wanting something like a wireless version of this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826169019 except about a thousand times less gaudy.
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# ? Jan 3, 2011 07:08 |
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Node posted:I've been looking for one of these. Link it if you wouldn't mind.
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# ? Jan 3, 2011 07:09 |
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:I play Crysis maxed at 1080p maxed with Chrome open in the background with normally about 6-7 tabs on an Athlon II X4 620(no L3 cache, sadly bought after they finally took it off completely instead of just locking it). I get closer to 30-45 FPS than 45-60, so if you're a MUST BE OVER 60 AAAARGH kinda gamer, your idea is better, but you can even go a little lower if you're fine with sub 60 frame rates.
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# ? Jan 3, 2011 10:57 |
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Chortles posted:Thanks for the comparison, but I'm still wondering what the AMD equivalent to Intel Core i5-i7 is supposed to be. There really is none in terms of price-to-performance ratio at that price point. However, a $100 Athlon II is enough for most gamers. NEW RELEASES THIS WEEK NightSky, a new puzzle-platformer by Nifflas (Knytt, Saira)
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# ? Jan 3, 2011 16:00 |
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Seconding the recommendation for a Xonar DG sound card if you want to use a good set of headphones with the headphone amp and Dolby headphone. It sounds awesome with my set of Sennheiser HD515 headphones. IMO, a ~$30 Xonar DG sound card coupled with Sennheiser HD515 or HD555 headphones is great for excellent gaming audio on a budget.
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# ? Jan 3, 2011 17:19 |
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Might be a pretty broad question, but I'm putting a gaming pc together. Last thing I'll be buying is an x64 windows 7 OS. Can I get it cheap anywhere? I know there's a student discount avaliable, but that just seems to be for upgrade editions, and I've lost the box (with disc in) and key for my old PC's legit XP. What's my best move? I'm in the UK if that makes any appreciable difference
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# ? Jan 3, 2011 17:20 |
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Samurai Sanders posted:I just bought a mini wireless keyboard trackpad thing, I hope it enhances my PC from the sofa experience a little bit. I am still holding onto that dream... Check out the Logitech MXAir. I couldn't imagine couch-PCing without it anymore. Very nice if you're just surfing the web or controlling a mediaplayer with it, since it can act like a remote control. Not optimal for gaming though, since it's got less buttons than your typical gaming mouse.
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# ? Jan 3, 2011 17:27 |
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meme posted:Might be a pretty broad question, but I'm putting a gaming pc together. If you are a student, you might want check if your university is part of the MSDNAA. I got a Win7 product key through for free with no hassle at all, other than asking for my account to be activated.
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Mooktastical posted:This makes no sense. Why would a Logitech mouse turn you off of Razer products forever? Personally, every razer product I've ever used (including the Boomslang 2000 that I had to RMA 3 times) has basically fallen apart in my hands. This includes: - A few original Boomslangs, the button switches would randomly self-press after a few weeks of use. - A diamondback where the goddamned thumb button fell apart after 3 or so months. - A Microsoft Habu (razer design/manufactured) where I literally couldn't even install the software without first applying a firmware update. - A Mamba that would randomly stop tracking ever since I owned it. After a week the wheel started to constantly squeak, and after a few months the battery would last maybe 2 hours tops. - A Deathadder that I'm convinced was manufactured by fisher-price. This barbie piece of poo poo had a right mouse button switch that busted and would remain depressed, as well as always doing the infamous "randomly stop tracking for < 1 second" thing that my Mamba was doing. Razer generally has decent enough design, but the build quality is pure poo poo. Meanwhile I have a Logitech MX518 that is probably going to outlive me, as well as a g9x and a G500 that I've had since release and have not given me a single bit of trouble. Not to mention my wonderful G13 that has spoiled me to PC gaming in a way that no controller ever will. When people talk about PC gaming and ask me for advice on mice, I always recommend Logitech devices. The build quality is so goddamned good I could pass them down to my children as family heirlooms.
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# ? Jan 3, 2011 18:07 |
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Are soundcards worth it? Most motherboards come with onboard audio, and I'm not an audiophile and would rather use the money saved on a soundcard for a part that really matters, like a videocard.
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# ? Jan 3, 2011 19:35 |
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Starhawk64 posted:Are soundcards worth it? Most motherboards come with onboard audio, and I'm not an audiophile and would rather use the money saved on a soundcard for a part that really matters, like a videocard. Not really, unless you do a lot of hardcore audio work. The best (and most cost-effective) audio setup for PC gaming, I find, is onboard audio + a good pair of Sennheisers or similarly quality headphones.
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# ? Jan 3, 2011 20:11 |
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For PC gaming, no. A dedicated sound card is not worth it except as a last-resort backup in case your onboard audio fails without somehow bringing down the whole motherboard with it.Devil Wears Wings posted:There really is none in terms of price-to-performance ratio at that price point. However, a $100 Athlon II is enough for most gamers. *Reads about the new Sandy Bridge (LGA 2011?) CPUs* Bit Tech posted:The Sandy Bridge lineup gives us some of the easiest conclusions to write that we've ever come across: the new range of Intel CPUs renders almost every other processor redundant and pointless. Part of my nerd-rage here being because I'm more used to AMD-style "backwards compatibility" with CPU sockets, am on an AMD motherboard/CPU, so I can't justify this to myself unless they both die or something.
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# ? Jan 3, 2011 20:48 |
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I'm looking to update my PC this year since its been roughly three years since getting it. Heres what I'm rocking: -Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 @2.40Ghz -4 gigs of RAM -8800GT 512mb It still runs solidly for Bad Company 2 and Crysis but should I really think about getting anything? I know I can OC the processor and probably throw in some RAM but am I still good on my video card? I used to be knowledgeable with cards from 8800 and before, but now they're getting crazy and I have no idea whats the next logical step "up" from an 8800 GT.
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# ? Jan 3, 2011 20:59 |
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Ringo Star Get posted:I'm looking to update my PC this year since its been roughly three years since getting it. Heres what I'm rocking: Bolded the key bit - is there any point in spending money if you're happy with it now? Also what resolution are you playing at? Edit: You don't really need more RAM either, 4GB is fine.
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# ? Jan 3, 2011 21:05 |