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IIRC any of Intel's CPUs with the Boost can increase clock speed on multiple cores so long as at least one core is turned off. If there's only two physical cores, you'll only boost one core, but if there's 4 you could boost 3 or 2 cores instead of just one.
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BLOWTAKKKS posted:Thanks for the responses. I can put the money I save towards something that will boost performance by more. There's nothing I really need the 8 threads for right now. I've been reading too many forums where people dickwave their CPUs. Don't forget that hordes of people will be selling off their i5s on craigslist once SB hits. That was my original plan, but mysteriously I snagged a brand new i5-750 for $120 in box today.
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You Am I posted:But doesn't it only boost one of the cores? I may have misread that on another site. Turbo Boost gives a larger boost if fewer cores are active. With SB turbo-capable chips (even the locked ones), you can increase performance at all levels. You'll still hit an artificial ceiling, though - the turbo-based overclocking is limited to a boost of 4 bins. Here's an Intel graphic I stole from Anandtech that can explain things better than me:  Of course, if you don't have a Turbo-capable CPU, you don't get to overclock at all (besides a near-useless BCLK bump of a few percent).
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From what I understand the more cores you TB the lower the ceiling for the boost. So you could have 1 core boosted to 3.7 or 2 cores boosted to 3.6 and so on. Until you reach the electrical/heat ceiling for your chip.
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Ika posted:What about the intel DP67BA? I'm thinking of getting that board, it has an intel gbit port, and is "cheap" compared to anything else with it. If you aren't planning on crossfire / SLI it might work. The Techreport review said it was $6 cheaper than the Asus Pro
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WhyteRyce posted:The Techreport review said it was $6 cheaper than the Asus Pro Techreview reviewed the G model: http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/db-DP67BG/DP67BG-overview.htm I'm refering to this one: http://www.intel.com/Products/Desktop/Motherboards/db-DP67BA/DP67BA-overview.htm In europe its available for 110 euros. If it can overclock decently (I'm not looking for 5ghz, boosting turbo by 0.5ghz is fine) I'm going to try it.
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Anyone looking for a memory deal, Newegg has 8GB (2x4GB) of Corsair XMS3 memory for $99 with a coupon code (listed on the product page). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145324 It isn't quite as cheap as the previous deal, but it is DDR3 1600 instead of DDR3 1333. The_Franz fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Jan 7, 2011 |
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The_Franz posted:Anyone looking for a memory deal, Newegg has 8GB (2x4GB) of Corsair XMS3 memory for $99 with a coupon code (listed on the product page). If its latency was 8, or if it was $20 cheaper, I would bite. As is, I'd wait.
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Speaking of RAM deals, I just went in on this one: 8 GB (2x4GB) of G.Skill DDR3 1333 for $74.99 after promo code. According to some Googleable guy on another forum, G.Skill confirmed this stuff (Sniper brand) uses different ICs than the Ripjaws brand, but it's a new product line. G.Skill tends to review well on Newegg, though those brand names are a bit 
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Factory Factory posted:Speaking of RAM deals, I just went in on this one: 8 GB (2x4GB) of G.Skill DDR3 1333 for $74.99 after promo code. According to some Googleable guy on another forum, G.Skill confirmed this stuff (Sniper brand) uses different ICs than the Ripjaws brand, but it's a new product line. G.Skill tends to review well on Newegg, though those brand names are a bit I was totally going to jump on those, but they sold out before I decided too, hah. My only complaint with G. Skill the last time I had their products was the RMA process being a pain in the rear end. But they've recently got a US RMA Center, so it's a lot better now. I'm not an Asus shill (I swear), but the P8P67 Pro is pretty, well...pro.
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movax posted:I was totally going to jump on those, but they sold out before I decided too, hah. My only complaint with G. Skill the last time I had their products was the RMA process being a pain in the rear end. But they've recently got a US RMA Center, so it's a lot better now. Yeah, I just had to RMA my G. Skill ram and it was relatively painless. There was a batch that wasn't initalizing properly on cold boots with certain configurations. It would cause a memory related BSOD at some point during the windows startup. Warm boots were completely fine and the ram was rock solid stable otherwise. I just submitted an RMA, mentioned I had the common cold boot issue, and I had an RMA number the next day. 10 days or so after I sent it in, I got new modules back.
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Someone on another forum mentioned that the Asus P8P67 EVO had better voltage/power regulation than the PRO, but they both have 12+2 VRMs. Is there any truth to this claim?
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Planning on a i5-2500 as a new system build, but getting hung up on this P67 vs H67 thing - H67: no overclock, on board graphics, and Quick Link transcoding - but the onboard graphics are not that hot ($50-range equivalent, no DX11) - you can't use Quick Link if you use an addon graphics card - surely a stock i5 chip can transcode 1080p to a lower res while you do other stuff - ffmpeg won't work with Quick Link for a long time if ever P67: can overclock - but do I really need to think about overclocking? Casual gamer, 1920x1080 monitor but I'm not a FPS twitcher so I can cope with 25-30fps Edging toward the P67 and a cheap GPU for now
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Probably going to grab an i5 2500k and the gigabyte board. My c2d e6600 and GB Board won't power up unless I jumpstart it with a PSU tester so leaving it on 24/7 is annoying but necessary. The GB board says it balances boot load across the VRMs (6 at a time) so I'm stoked for that. Not a PC gamer and having the OC will be nice til I can rebuild in 4yrs or so. There's a few of each model on eBay as engineering samples too if anyone wants to get one now. Bit expensive compared to the quoted prices though.
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P67+OC'd i5 2500K+cheap GPU would be the best option for you IMO oversteer. If you're willing to put up with rebates you can get a card that is quite a bit better than the Intel IGP for about $35 here.
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oversteer posted:P67: can overclock Overclocking is great to just get more performance out of a system if you intend to keep it for a while too. I might skip upgrading my Q6600 system for another year because it still works so great.
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Combat Pretzel posted:Going for a Asus Sabertooth, Core i7-2600 and 16GB RAM. Everything's here but the CPU I'm honestly curious to know what people are doing with so much RAM? What could you possible need that much for?
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Kashwashwa posted:I'm honestly curious to know what people are doing with so much RAM? What could you possible need that much for? Virtual Machine lab environments, I have 8gb in mine and would love more.
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And an extra 12GB of disk cache will go a long way to hide the misery and suffering of mechanical hard drives if you haven't moved to an SSD yet.
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dud root posted:Someone on another forum mentioned that the Asus P8P67 EVO had better voltage/power regulation than the PRO, but they both have 12+2 VRMs. Is there any truth to this claim? No, their VRMs should be identical. The LE and Deluxe are the only ones with unique VRMs (the LE has 6, the Deluxe has 14+2 or 16+2, one of the two). However, Intel themselves only tossed 6 on their motherboard. The extra ones will come in handy when you raise VCore and suck down more power on really high overclocks. @Kashwashwa: alereon mentioned last page that DDR3 prices are about to hit the lowest they will (likely) ever hit; some people will just buy 16GB now when it's cheapest instead of waiting to see when they needed. You could probably kill off your pagefile with 16GB too. @oversteer: definitely do P67 + some AMD GPU. Best bang for buck GPU performance, and coupled with an i5 should smoke most everything for the rest of the year without you having to murder your settings. @Laserface: you might want to look at the Intel, Asus or other boards that sport a nice EFI bios. I think that round-up said the GB board was the priciest of them all?
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oversteer posted:Planning on a i5-2500 as a new system build, but getting hung up on this P67 vs H67 thing -
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ilkhan posted:If you are that conflicted, and willing to wait a month, wait for the Z67 (Z68?) boards to come out. Best of both in one package. Z68, and I thought it was Q2 at earliest, so it'd be like April or later.
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Kashwashwa posted:I'm honestly curious to know what people are doing with so much RAM? What could you possible need that much for? And because I can. When I remember what 8MB RAM cost me way back, this is peanuts. --edit: Yay, found a shop with the CPU in stock! Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Jan 7, 2011 |
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movax posted:Z68, and I thought it was Q2 at earliest, so it'd be like April or later.
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movax posted:You could probably kill off your pagefile with 16GB too. No, don't tell people to do that. That is some stupid "optimization" advice that was touted a decade ago and does not apply. Having a page file available won't make anything slower.
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The last time anyone should have turned off the pagefile was the half-broken virtual memory in Mac System 7.
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Inept posted:No, don't tell people to do that. That is some stupid "optimization" advice that was touted a decade ago and does not apply. Having a page file available won't make anything slower. And it was wrong a decade ago, and has become increasingly wrong since then. Not having a page file will make things slower, even if you have ridiculous amounts of RAM and nothing actually needs to be paged out.
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movax posted:No, their VRMs should be identical. The LE and Deluxe are the only ones with unique VRMs (the LE has 6, the Deluxe has 14+2 or 16+2, one of the two). However, Intel themselves only tossed 6 on their motherboard. The extra ones will come in handy when you raise VCore and suck down more power on really high overclocks.
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Zhentar posted:And it was wrong a decade ago, and has become increasingly wrong since then. Not having a page file will make things slower, even if you have ridiculous amounts of RAM and nothing actually needs to be paged out. Ooops, my bad. I still keep my pagefile around, I just moved it to not-C.
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quote:@Laserface: you might want to look at the Intel, Asus or other boards that sport a nice EFI bios. I think that round-up said the GB board was the priciest of them all? Yeah but I dont really see the point of a flashy UI for a part of the system I am going to view once or twice. I'd be nice to see but that would be only reason I'd use it - to see it. If the GB Board has 12 VRMs and load balances boots across differing pairs of 6 each time, I feel like it's going to last a lot longer and be more of a benefit to me than mousing through BIOS settings. Also, I prefer GB to Asus. The MSI board ain't bad though. These 4 are only a small segment of the high-mid market I'm assuming, so I may even get a lower board. Still retarded you cant OC and use the in board. The ONLY reason I would favor UEFI would be if it made loading OS X easier, which is something I want to look into (I refuse to buy a prebuilt machine because putting it together is too much fun).
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UEFI speeds up POST and subsequently boot times, too.
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Boot time is something to consider. I'll be using an SSD for my boot drive so if there's a big gain on top of that then I may just get pushed into it. I have a 2.8TB NAS so all that will reside on the boot drive is windows and applications. Everything else sits on my 1TB or the NAS.
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How much information is there about Mini ITX motherboard offerings? Edit: I mean, I've found various reviews on Google, but the people on this board are really good at filtering out hype and nonsense. zachol fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Jan 8, 2011 |
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zachol posted:How much information is there about Mini ITX motherboard offerings? Asus apparently has mini-ITX variants of their P8P67 family coming "soon". I'm sure Intel will put out a mini-ITX board as well.
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Hmm. The Asus Mini ITX from that family is apparently is a "P8H67." Shoot. Depending on what Z68 turns out to be I might just need to move to mATX. Edit: Although I don't know why I'm surprised. I'm probably one out of only a dozen people in the market for a Mini ITX with no onboard graphics. zachol fucked around with this message at 09:45 on Jan 8, 2011 |
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zachol posted:I'm probably one out of only a dozen people in the market for a Mini ITX with no onboard graphics. Nah. Is it that crazy to want a gaming machine in a nice, modestly-sized case that's not too loud?
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VermiciousKnid84 posted:Nah. Is it that crazy to want a gaming machine in a nice, modestly-sized case that's not too loud? This the first time I've heard of a mini-ITX gaming PC. Normally they're used for car stereos or silly "case mods" where they crammed the entire system into a football or something stupid likt that. I'm sure if you stuck a mini ITX board on a table and put a modern graphics card in it, the thing would tip over due to the graphics card being heavier and the one single expansion slot being right on the edge. Sure you're not thinking of Micro ATX?
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