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nationalista posted:I'm not sure if anyone will be interested in this, but I caught this on the BBC News Channel last night and it made me far angrier than it reasonably should have:
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" and demonstrating just how far someone can disappear up their own arse.
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Because Stayin' Alive was the pinnacle of humanities musical culture.
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Jan 7, 2011 15:33
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I'm loving sick of that kinda comment. There is AWESOME music everywhere - you just have to make a loving effort to look for it instead of waiting for it to be spoonfed to you. It was the same 40 years ago, and it's the same now.
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Jan 7, 2011 16:03
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Paperhouse posted:yeah I'm inclined to agree with you after watching for about 10 minutes, he's really pretty smug about how good he is/was http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlehycyTGT8
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Jan 7, 2011 16:07
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Graviton v2 posted:Im no real fan of theirs or anything but they can actually sing and play which cant be said of the majority of the cack in the top 40. I know, they're good musicians who know how to write great pop songs but he didn't half keep going on about how many records they'd sold and how many pop stars they've written songs for and how not many people can do natural harmonies but I can etc and yeah, like thehustler said there is loving tons of great music coming out all the time, always has been, and it's annoying when people make generalisations about music based solely upon the very very mainstream
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Jan 7, 2011 16:39
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SeanBeansShako posted:Because Stayin' Alive was the pinnacle of humanities musical culture. tbf i love the bass in that song, it owns
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Jan 7, 2011 16:41
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I don't have a problem with someone calling out Mark Watson for advertising cider. It's obviously easy to be snide here in the peanut gallery but I really do get annoyed with people who definitely can make a comfortable living in the first place then decide to become the face of some product. That said Frankie Boyle can go gently caress himself. He oscillates between moral grandstanding (ranting about how no comedian should be going after 40, or slagging off people for selling out) and doing the laziest, most unpalatable jokes picking on weak groups like the disabled. gently caress him.
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Jan 7, 2011 16:53
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This is the same Frankie Boyle who after the first half of Tramadol Nights pimped out a DVD of the exact sand stand up he was doing between sketches during the break.
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Jan 7, 2011 16:58
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Beeswax posted:I don't have a problem with someone calling out Mark Watson for advertising cider. It's obviously easy to be snide here in the peanut gallery but I really do get annoyed with people who definitely can make a comfortable living in the first place then decide to become the face of some product. I think my main problem with him calling Mark Watson out for being a sellout is that Frankie Boyle writes a column for The Sun, the best selling paper in the UK and part of Rupert Murdoch's empire. He can't criticise someone for selling out to promote cider, when Boyle himself works for one of the biggest media corporations in the world.
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Jan 7, 2011 17:10
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I don't really get the "selling cider to teenagers" thing... Is it selling to teenagers just by virtue of being cider? It's hardly youth-centred, is it?
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Jan 7, 2011 17:17
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People hating sell-outs is always fairly humourous. So Mark Watson has used his success in stand up and on panel shows to get a advertising campaign selling cider (and innocent smoothies if I remember?), seems like the normal kind of career progression everyone goes through. Do people expect these semi-famous comedians to scoff at such offers and tell them to sod off as it ruins their artistic integrity? And Frankie Boyle is clearly so far up his own arse now it's painful to listen to anything he says without thinking he is a massive idiot. For some reason he thinks he's the funniest man alive.
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Jan 7, 2011 17:18
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poo poo loads of comedians get jobs doing advert voiceovers, it pays the bills while they're writing new material. Not everyone can phone in a poo poo column for the sun.
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Jan 7, 2011 17:21
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goatface posted:poo poo loads of comedians get jobs doing advert voiceovers, it pays the bills while they're writing new material. I get the impression that Frankie Boyle is one of those people who thinks their stance and viewpoint on what is and isn't allowed in life is completely and absolutely correct. So the thought of the man as intelligent (which he is often said to be) is at odds with that.
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Jan 7, 2011 17:27
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Akuma posted:I don't really get the "selling cider to teenagers" thing... Is it selling to teenagers just by virtue of being cider? It's hardly youth-centred, is it? I think it's playing up that stereotype of teens buying a cheap bottle of cider and getting drunk in parks and bus stops and shite and yeah, I don't see a problem with Mark Watson doing an ad for it. Frankie Boyle calls him a sellout but he's hardly compromising his principles is he? He just got offered an easy and presumably well paid job and took it, I'm not sure what the issue is
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Jan 7, 2011 17:31
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If Mark Watson was known for his anti-corporate or anti-drinking stance, then he'd be a sellout.
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Paperhouse posted:I think it's playing up that stereotype of teens buying a cheap bottle of cider and getting drunk in parks and bus stops and shite I've never seen chavvy kids drinking loving Magners.
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Jan 7, 2011 17:37
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Brown Moses posted:If Mark Watson was known for his anti-corporate or anti-drinking stance, then he'd be a sellout. Exactly. Or if he stopped halfway through one of his shows to talk about how nice Bulmers/Magners is. Being employed to provide a voiceover is not selling out. The whole notion of 'selling out' is pathetic and childish anyway.
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Jan 7, 2011 17:38
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keveh posted:My sister went to that show last year and was the one who drank vinegar (not on tv, just the one she went to). Just curious (and I suppose this goes to anyone who saw a show that wasn't the one broadcast) but does your sister have long black hair aswell? It seemed like she was chosen because she resembled the girl from The Ring, especially with the smock on. Derren even arranged her hair before setting her off on her creepy walk round the audience.
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Jan 7, 2011 17:55
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nationalista posted:The whole notion of 'selling out' is pathetic and childish anyway. Not really, the term's used far too often in cases where it doesn't come close to applying, that's all. Like by Boyle here. I never liked the guy, but this whole episode makes him look like an utter oval office.
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Akuma posted:I don't really get the "selling cider to teenagers" thing... Is it selling to teenagers just by virtue of being cider? It's hardly youth-centred, is it? Maybe Boyle is generalizing Watson's fans as all teenagers? Maybe it's some kneejerk reaction based on his previous alcoholism? Anyway, there is a Penn and Teller special on at 9 tonight if anyone feels like braving ITV. BizarroAzrael fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Jan 7, 2011 |
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Jan 7, 2011 18:09
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I've never understood this whole 'selling out' thing, I mean yeah I totally agree that someone would deserve to be called out if they're doing something that doesn't fit with their stance on certain issues, but I don't really see anything to it other than "how dare that loving oval office want to make some extra money, what a oval office who would do that!!" I still remember the massive backlash against Mitchell and Webb for doing the Mac adverts, then Robert Webb pointed out that the adverts were very quick and easy to film and they were paid more for the ads than they are for a whole series of Peep Show and I just thought "fair enough I guess, I'd most definitely do the same in their situation". Not to mention that Boyle doesn't seem that bothered about his show, and all other Channel 4 comedy shows for that matter, being sponsored by Fosters.
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Jan 7, 2011 18:59
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Which is especially odd as he's a teetotaler as he was an alcoholic and he supposedly very nearly ruined his life thanks to it. Way to not sell out your principles, Frankie.
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Jan 7, 2011 19:10
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Maybe it is more of a suggestion than a sponsership. Go on, have a can of Fosters. My sketch show seems less rubbish when pissed, yeah?
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Jan 7, 2011 19:12
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BizarroAzrael posted:Maybe Boyle is generalizing Watson's fans as all teenagers? Maybe it's some kneejerk reaction based on his previous alcoholism? I didn't even realise that was a thing until I saw the trailer just now. It doesn't look too bad actually. I'll probably give it a try tonight. ITV are usually crap, but they have the potential to produce some pretty good shows (honestly they do!) Speaking of magic, is anyone watching The Magicians on BBC on Saturday? I caught it last week and it was quite entertaining, although Lenny Henry still isn't funny. This week the special guests are Ade Edmondson, Peter Jones (of Dragon's Den 'fame') and Amanda Byram. The only disappointing thing is a distinct lack of Paul Daniels and Debbie McGee.
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Gram-O-Phone posted:Speaking of magic, is anyone watching The Magicians on BBC on Saturday? Lenny Henry Ade Edmondson Paul Daniels and Debbie McGee. Bloody hell, was the first trick they did one that transported us back to 1985?
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Jan 7, 2011 19:21
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To be honest my main issue with Mark Watson isn't the Magners thing (thogh that's mainly because I never have to see/hear any of it. I had to look it up on youtube to know what Stwart Lee was referencing in his routine). What's really strange to me is him hosting a show as laddish as Mak Watson Kicks Off. He's always had a pretty nerdy image (god I love We Need Answers) and now he hosts a show with wank jokes, the odd bikini babe and loads of ~~sportz~~? I don't mind really, it's just baffling.
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Jan 7, 2011 19:27
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The 'putting on a Welsh accent' thing was a bit weird, mind....
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Anyone else suddenly think that Stephen Fry would make a good pope?BizarroAzrael posted:Anyway, there is a Penn and Teller special on at 9 tonight if anyone feels like braving ITV. Edit: Why is Johnathon Ross presenting this? Penn & Teller are charismatic enough and it's not like their unknown here. Megaterium fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Jan 7, 2011 |
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Adrianics posted:I've never understood this whole 'selling out' thing, I mean yeah I totally agree that someone would deserve to be called out if they're doing something that doesn't fit with their stance on certain issues, but I don't really see anything to it other than "how dare that loving oval office want to make some extra money, what a oval office who would do that!!" I think it depends on the person and what they are advertising. Carol Vorderman advertising dodgy loan companies annoyed me because she is heralded as some kind of mathematical mastermind and a lot of the target audience of Countdown would see her as a trustable expert due to the nature of the show. But Stephen Fry advertising tea doesn't bother me at all and doesn't make me feel like he is selling out or anything.
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Jan 7, 2011 21:59
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Junkenstein posted:The 'putting on a Welsh accent' thing was a bit weird, mind.... Yeah, especially how he waffled back and forth explaining it afterward.
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Jan 7, 2011 22:06
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Backstory please.
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No real story to tell. When Mark Watson started doing standup he did it in a welsh accent. He's from a welsh family but grew up in Bristol and has no accent, apart form the one he used during stand ups. I've only read second hand sources regarding why he put on the accent but it's ranged from "He used to have an accent when he was growing up" to "He says he used it as part of his stage persona, because it added another dimension to his material". It's all just rather puzzling but who knows, maybe there is a really simple answer out there somewhere.
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Jan 7, 2011 22:59
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This is very common. Billy Connolly actually sounds like Hugh Grant. That accent is just for the camera, honest.
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Jan 7, 2011 23:04
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I left the UK a year ago. Does it have any decent comedy from the last year I should download?
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midge posted:I left the UK a year ago. Does it have any decent comedy from the last year I should download? Tramadol Nights.
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midge posted:I left the UK a year ago. Does it have any decent comedy from the last year I should download?
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Flatscan posted:Tramadol Nights. Oh man don't be cruel. Mongrels, Him and Her and Whites if your looking for a decent BBC Comedy fix.
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Jan 7, 2011 23:26
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hookerbot 5000 posted:I think it depends on the person and what they are advertising. Carol Vorderman advertising dodgy loan companies annoyed me because she is heralded as some kind of mathematical mastermind and a lot of the target audience of Countdown would see her as a trustable expert due to the nature of the show. But Stephen Fry advertising tea doesn't bother me at all and doesn't make me feel like he is selling out or anything. That's at least partly because the Twinnings product isn't loving deplorable
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Flatscan posted:Tramadol Nights. You are a terrible person. Midge, in addition to Peep Show I would recommend Misfits. Show of the year, in my opinion.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Oh man don't be cruel. Irisi posted:You are a terrible person. Ok, ok, I apologise. Try the Morgana Show instead.
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