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Skyssx posted:Mythbusters proved it was not possible to start a fire from friction between rubber and the road. well if mythbusters covered it then
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FatCow posted:Good for mythbusters, I've seen plenty of burnouts leave flaming piles of rubber in their wake. I'd tend to agree with this, mainly because they have to restrict what they show from a legal standpoint. If they say "yeah if you drop your clutch at 5000 RPMs you'll set your tires on fire" guess who is going to get sued when some dumbass goes out and does what he just saw on TV and ends up setting his car on fire.
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Jan 11, 2011 18:56
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Geoj posted:I'd tend to agree with this, mainly because they have to restrict what they show from a legal standpoint. If they say "yeah if you drop your clutch at 5000 RPMs you'll set your tires on fire" guess who is going to get sued when some dumbass goes out and does what he just saw on TV and ends up setting his car on fire. Are you seriously comparing the legal qualms of showing people that doing a long duration burnout to start tires on fire is different than exploding cars, homes, tractors, doors, fake people, etc with home made and military explosives?
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Jan 11, 2011 19:02
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FatCow posted:Good for mythbusters, I've seen plenty of burnouts leave flaming piles of rubber in their wake. Geoj posted:I'd tend to agree with this, mainly because they have to restrict what they show from a legal standpoint. If they say "yeah if you drop your clutch at 5000 RPMs you'll set your tires on fire" guess who is going to get sued when some dumbass goes out and does what he just saw on TV and ends up setting his car on fire.
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Jan 11, 2011 19:07
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Skyssx posted:Mythbusters proved it was not possible to start a fire from friction between rubber and the road. huhwhat? After they came back from lunch the pile of rubber was smoldering.
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Jan 11, 2011 19:09
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dietcokefiend posted:Are you seriously comparing the legal qualms of showing people that doing a long duration burnout to start tires on fire is different than exploding cars, homes, tractors, doors, fake people, etc with home made and military explosives? Recall that mythbusters refused to reveal the third ingredient (saltpeter) in black powder, despite it having been known for eight hundred years
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Skyssx posted:Mythbusters proved it was not possible to start a fire from friction between rubber and the road. About one in ten myths they completely fail. This was one of those. I've watched it happen in front of my own eyes and there are hundreds of videos showing it happening. It may require some combination of tire compound, road surface, and spin speed that wasn't achieved in their tests, who knows.
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Jan 11, 2011 19:15
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Todays disaster... what's left of one set of front wheelbearings on my Discovery And the clutch release arm that I replaced at Xmas. Outside. On the drive. In the snow... 
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Jan 11, 2011 19:59
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Since we seem to be throwing in accidents lately, I figured this recent video should be included to pay homage to snowpacolypse 2010. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX_KyLuhdDQ
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Jan 11, 2011 20:10
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reddeathdrinker posted:And the clutch release arm that I replaced at Xmas. Outside. On the drive. In the snow... I see that happen a lot with subarus too. Here's a broken rear output shaft from an STI:  and here's part of a turbo we found in the exhaust: 
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Jan 11, 2011 20:18
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Mr.Peabody posted:Since we seem to be throwing in accidents lately, I figured this recent video should be included to pay homage to snowpacolypse 2010. Still doesnt beat the stupidity found in this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP28pbcz4tM
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Jan 11, 2011 20:25
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Skyssx posted:Mythbusters proved it was not possible to start a fire from friction between rubber and the road. Mythbusters proved they were not able to start fire from friction between rubber and the road. That doesn't mean it's not possible. Just means they couldn't do it.
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I'm pretty sure that the only thing Mythbusters ever actually proves is that explosions make good TV.
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dietcokefiend posted:Are you seriously comparing the legal qualms of showing people that doing a long duration burnout to start tires on fire is different than exploding cars, homes, tractors, doors, fake people, etc with home made and military explosives? Most people don't have access to military or even home made explosives. The number of viewers in their audience who have cars, however... Plus how many times have they had to say "we were going to try this but our lawyers/insurance said no loving way so we're putting in a human analog instead"?
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Jan 11, 2011 20:35
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Geoj posted:Most people don't have access to military or even home made explosives. The number of viewers in their audience who have cars, however... Yes, because people are going to go out and try to explode tires/ruin drive-trains for the hell of it vs mixing random chemicals until they can light clothing on fire from friction or something. Not to mention I am pretty sure everyone in their viewing audience has at one time or another done a burnout. Its nothing new. In any case, yes mythbusters messes up lots of stuff, but it always finishes with a happy ending of one sort or another.
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Jan 11, 2011 20:38
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dietcokefiend posted:Still doesnt beat the stupidity found in this one. The woman who *gets out of her car* at 0:25 (I guess because she thinks it will explode when it slides into another car at ~12mph) is potentially the stupidest person on the entire planet.
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Jan 11, 2011 20:48
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Phanatic posted:The woman who *gets out of her car* at 0:25 (I guess because she thinks it will explode when it slides into another car at ~12mph) is potentially the stupidest person on the entire planet.  Lets get out of the car and into the direct path of another sliding car I was secretly hoping the guy trying to drag his feet to slow the car would have been snagged in a hole and had his arms ripped off though 
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Phanatic posted:The woman who *gets out of her car* at 0:25 (I guess because she thinks it will explode when it slides into another car at ~12mph) is potentially the stupidest person on the entire planet. e: fb
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Seat Safety Switch posted:I dunno, the guy shortly after that who jumps out of the passenger side and is clearly trying to slow the car down Flintstones style by holding onto the door is a close second if not the winner. I was so excited to see him get ran over, but no dice...
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Jan 11, 2011 21:02
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dietcokefiend posted:Knowing how some old people are, he probably just floored it and redlined it for a while stressing something already on the fritz. poo poo cascaded from that point, and not really sure what I guess the end result is a fireball.
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Alereon posted:Potentially stupid question, but why don't engines have some sort of thermal protection that shuts them down before they get hot enough to catch on fire or sustain damage? I mean clearly there's a temp sensor since an overheat light comes on, why doesn't it just shut off? Probably safety related. What if the sensor goes bad middle of rush hour traffic and it kills the engine and you die in a crash? There is supposed to be some element of user input when it comes to error messages and warnings. Smoke and fire from the front of your car should have been a clue to pull it on over. That and maybe don't redline the drat thing 
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Alereon posted:Potentially stupid question, but why don't engines have some sort of thermal protection that shuts them down before they get hot enough to catch on fire or sustain damage? I mean clearly there's a temp sensor since an overheat light comes on, why doesn't it just shut off? My guess is it wasn't the engine itself that overheated, it was something close to the engine that overheated due to lack of airflow and revving the piss out of it for an hour.
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dietcokefiend posted:Still doesnt beat the stupidity found in this one. Is that the same street as the other video? I couldn't believe the people who jumped out of their cars... brilliant, let's leave the one environment that's designed to protect you in case of collision and instead jump onto the roadway while there are other cars sliding out of control around you. Great idea.
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Also why do people think that they need to use more power when their tires lose grip? What you want to do is shift to a higher gear and use less revs, that limits the torque that's sent to the wheels and reduces the chance of spin. Of course I grew up in a place that has proper winters every year, maybe that's why I know that...
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el topo posted:Also why do people think that they need to use more power when their tires lose grip? What you want to do is shift to a higher gear and use less revs, that limits the torque that's sent to the wheels and reduces the chance of spin. Of course I grew up in a place that has proper winters every year, maybe that's why I know that... As for "gears," I had a lot of conversations with people around the time that Toyotas were trying to kill their unfortunate drivers during which it was revealed most of them had no idea what the "N" on their automatic transmission selector stood for. The concept of gearing and trading torque for speed is probably a subject that is beyond most drivers' education here. If I had a nickel for every time I drive down a nice snowy road, brake gently for an intersection and then hit a slick of ice 3 inches from the crosswalk from some retard burning out the 15 year old all seasons on their loving Caravan I'd be rich enough to live somewhere better. Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Jan 11, 2011 |
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slidebite posted:Actual fire coming out of the rubber or smoke? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP1nEO3XcrY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXqFsi1KAV4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOR5btU8uWU
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Alereon posted:Potentially stupid question, but why don't engines have some sort of thermal protection that shuts them down before they get hot enough to catch on fire or sustain damage? I mean clearly there's a temp sensor since an overheat light comes on, why doesn't it just shut off? I've overheated a car to the point that it died. Gave it a few minutes to cool down, then started right up. Once I found a parking spot I popped the hood and found that I'd forgotten to plug in the electric fan. Whoops.
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Alereon posted:Potentially stupid question, but why don't engines have some sort of thermal protection that shuts them down before they get hot enough to catch on fire or sustain damage? I mean clearly there's a temp sensor since an overheat light comes on, why doesn't it just shut off? apparently honda had this hard wired into their bikes in the 70's ride it till it overheats, engine seizes and stalls out. wait till it cools off and it starts right back up again like nothing ever happened. Some diesel engines have something along these lines. It blocks the intake so no air gets into the motor and prevents this from happening: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zx3qKX_Pno or this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4fxjKnuI4Y GnarlyCharlie4u fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Jan 11, 2011 |
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Godholio posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP1nEO3XcrY 
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slidebite posted:Am I a bad person for wishing the car completely went up? Yeah, that's a pretty terrible thing to wish upon a Defender. Now if it had been a VW or some douchecanoe with a smoke mapped cummings then I'd have wished the same thing. edit: owait i misread. *ahem* what I really meant was I haven't prayed for something so hard in my life. GnarlyCharlie4u fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Jan 12, 2011 |
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Jan 11, 2011 22:10
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Godholio posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP1nEO3XcrY I wonder how much those fires were affected by the fact that there were surely steel belts scrubbing against the asphalt
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slidebite posted:Am I a bad person for wishing the car completely went up? Here I was hoping for the same thing. I like how quickly this video went from, hey dudes awesome idea, to holy poo poo we are so hosed.  "Man this is an awesome idea, this massive block of concrete will make for the bestest burnout evers" "Oh poo poo were on fire, floor it and get away." "gently caress we tied ourselves to a huge block of concrete, no escape"
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:"first start after a year long rebuild" I'm sorry but I dropped my cigarette from laughing so hard.
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el topo posted:Also why do people think that they need to use more power when their tires lose grip? Rubber on concrete has roughly a 1.0μs and a 0.8μk whereas rubber on ice is closer to 0.15μk (can't find decent rubber-ice μs values.) The drop off for a slipping tire on ice is massive compared to concrete.  E: whoops, physics rant, here is some failure  
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Jan 11, 2011 23:34
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That's hilariously mind-blowing.
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Detroit Q. Spider posted:What the, I don't even.... Its from like a year ago, built on sandy soil, monsoon season came, and it tipped over. Pilings were too short.
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So I see. I Tineye'd one of th pics and turned up a Russian site that has an awesome translation via Google: http://tinyurl.com/4encfp3
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It's gotta suck to be someone living in one of the neighbouring buildings.
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