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It's a shame that driver education isn't more extensive and really doesn't cover anything that falls under the "unexpected conditions" umbrella. The path to a license should be longer and more demanding, like it is in Finland.
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Ive always thought it should be required to take your vehicle to the nearest parking lot on the first good snow and gently caress around for an hour or two to learn your vehicle. I watched people go in the ditch on one stretch of freeway by my house for 3 days. Yet somehow in my truck with rear tires that may as well be slicks never went in, despite hitting ice and immediately being shot sideways about 20 times. Many 4x4s, suvs, fwd cars in the ditch, yet the 86 ram on crap tires in 2x4 has little issue. People even in south dakota turn into complete retards when this strange white stuff falls.
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Jan 16, 2011 18:15
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Sponge! posted:And that's exactly what separates snow drivers from normal people. We know that "Add throttle, dab of oppo perhaps." is a valid and proper choice. 99% of the population is like ZOMG BRAKES I NEED TO STOP NOW STOP STOP STOP! Followed by the sound of folding metal and plastic. I've had one snow-related screw up, it involved me taking a curve and nearly hitting a tree. I learned after that.
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Jan 16, 2011 19:30
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Fire Storm posted:
Same here, but the lesson for me was more about not waiting too long to replace tires.
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Jan 16, 2011 20:08
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el topo posted:It's a shame that driver education isn't more extensive and really doesn't cover anything that falls under the "unexpected conditions" umbrella. The path to a license should be longer and more demanding, like it is in Finland. After I got my permit like 12 years ago we had a snow storm that day, got about 10-12 inches and most of the roads around us weren't plowed when I got home from school with my newly acquired permit. So what's the best thing to do? Go driving of course! My Dad took me out on un-plowed farm roads so I got to learn to drive stick (for the first time) in terrible conditions. Most of the time I couldn't even see the road. "Just stay between the telephone poles." Had never been so true. Needless to say he also let me lose the back end a few times to get a feel for it. Overall it was a good experience.
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Jan 16, 2011 20:25
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Godholio posted:Same here, but the lesson for me was more about not waiting too long to replace tires. My lesson was when you ask the Firestone dealer for a quote for snow tires, and they never call back, CALL THEM BACK!
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Jan 16, 2011 20:40
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Detroit Q. Spider posted:I've long thought that skid control and inclement weather training should be a mandatory part of licensing process. Imagine the number of accidents that might be avoided... We have that in Norway. A couple of hours on a dedicated skid pad, where they teach steering into the skid, braking, swerving to avoid pedestrians:  and turning 180 degrees when stuck on a slippery hill. Quite fun, quite expensive, not that in-depth but not bad.
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Jan 16, 2011 20:52
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Interestingly enough you now have to use winter tires between mid-December and mid-April (IIRC) in Quebec, which has the side benefit of forcing you to have a look at your tires a couple of times a year.
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Jan 16, 2011 20:54
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MonkeyNutZ posted:E: Here you can see the bed on its side with the cab sitting normally Ola posted:
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Jan 16, 2011 22:12
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Sponge! posted:Exactly. And when I've been schlepping people around who can't get places on their own I've had more than one scream out in terror as I'm calmly spinning the wheel like a submarine hatch with one hand, and jockeying the transmission with the other... And I drive an 89 civic wagovan, and these people are too afraid to drive their focus or escort... I think the fundamental problem with winter drivers is the failure to understand that screaming will never keep the car out of the ditch.
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Jan 17, 2011 04:34
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I beg to differ. i think the problem is our attitude about snow driving. People fear going to drive in it. Fear makes you stupid. Absolutely everyone should spend a night, or several nights each winter doing donuts in the snow. Learn to love the slide.
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Jan 17, 2011 05:09
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Guess this fits here too. Had this happen to me today during a beautiful drive up a mountain: And the reason why:  That's some fine British engineering!
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Jan 17, 2011 05:14
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So did you come unglued as well when that happened? (sorry, had to) Seriously, I'm not familiar with the suspension setup - what broke?
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Jan 17, 2011 05:30
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Timmy Cruise posted:So did you come unglued as well when that happened? (sorry, had to) Looks like one of the balljoints for the lower control arm ripped out.
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Jan 17, 2011 05:32
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Tie rod bushing failed and the wheel pointed wherever it wanted.
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Jan 17, 2011 05:33
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Seems about right for a Lotus.
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Jan 17, 2011 05:41
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Lotus is too close to Lucas for me to ever drive one 
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Jan 17, 2011 05:48
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Comrade Flynn posted:Guess this fits here too. Had this happen to me today during a beautiful drive up a mountain: C63 time.
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Jan 17, 2011 06:08
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Comrade Flynn posted:That's some fine British engineering! The axle on a MGB I worked on was held up with 2 stout leather straps.
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Jan 17, 2011 07:46
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Just jam a wooden dowel in there and hammer everything back together and you'll be fine.
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Jan 17, 2011 07:55
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at least it didn't catch fire
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Jan 17, 2011 13:33
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Any other Florida AIers might back me up on this one, but every time it rains here it seems like everyone driving has never actually driven in the rain before. SPOILERS: It rains every single day here half the year.
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Jan 17, 2011 15:36
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ultimateforce posted:Any other Florida AIers might back me up on this one, but every time it rains here it seems like everyone driving has never actually driven in the rain before. From what I've heard about Florida, the days of the year when it isn't raining, it seems like everyone driving has never actually driven on a sunny day before.
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Jan 17, 2011 15:52
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Ola posted:From what I've heard about Florida, the days of the year when it isn't raining, it seems like everyone driving has never actually driven on a sunny day before. This is the truest statement. As someone that drives 60,000 miles a year in Pinellas, (one of the most densely populated counties,) it sucks.
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Jan 17, 2011 16:02
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Here in the Panhandle we get an influx of snowbirds in the winter and tourists in the summer. They all drive slow but are otherwise OK. In South Florida, it seems like it is an even mix of retirees so near death that they are barely sentient and natives that seem to think that the road is the best place to take out their aggressions. It is maddening to drive down there.
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Jan 17, 2011 16:59
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VikingSkull posted:at least it didn't catch fire It's not an R8, a Gallardo or a 458 Italia, why would it just catch on fire unexpectedly? 
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Jan 17, 2011 19:09
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I kind of want to go somewhere that seldom gets a good snowstorm. In Nova Scotia most people have learned how to handle their cars and I haven't seen a snow-related accident in the city this year so far (have heard of people ditching it on the highways due to going too fast, but that'll happen). I want to see some of this bizarre stuff firsthand.
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Jan 17, 2011 22:57
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I can't wait to get home to upload a picture I just took at work. 02 passat came in running rough with an oil leak. Stay tuned for the next episode of How the gently caress did that get there Theater.
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Jan 17, 2011 23:12
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14 INCH DICK TURBO posted:I can't wait to get home to upload a picture I just took at work. 02 passat came in running rough with an oil leak. Stay tuned for the next episode of How the gently caress did that get there Theater. 
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Jan 17, 2011 23:47
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14 INCH DICK TURBO posted:I can't wait to get home to upload a picture I just took at work. 02 passat came in running rough with an oil leak. Stay tuned for the next episode of How the gently caress did that get there Theater. Hmmm...75 feet of barbed wire wrapped 'round the crank snout?
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Jan 18, 2011 00:59
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Comrade Flynn posted:Guess this fits here too. Had this happen to me today during a beautiful drive up a mountain: Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious.
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Jan 18, 2011 01:22
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14 INCH DICK TURBO posted:I can't wait to get home to upload a picture I just took at work. 02 passat came in running rough with an oil leak. Stay tuned for the next episode of How the gently caress did that get there Theater. Tell me it's a TDI Passat.
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Jan 18, 2011 02:03
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14 INCH DICK TURBO posted:I can't wait to get home to upload a picture I just took at work. 02 passat came in running rough with an oil leak. Stay tuned for the next episode of How the gently caress did that get there Theater. We found a cat pancake under the hood of a BMW, where I used to work. That's the kind of poo poo you hide in someone's toolbox. 
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Jan 18, 2011 03:40
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For some loving reason even when I tilt the image manually and save it, and it shows up on my desk top right side up, Waffleimages still manages to load it sideways. What gives? Anyways.....   The gently caress is THAT? 
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14 INCH DICK TURBO posted:For some loving reason even when I tilt the image manually and save it, and it shows up on my desk top right side up, Waffleimages still manages to load it sideways. What gives? At first glance I thought that was a bearing shoe, and I went HOW THE gently caress DID THAT GET UP THERE?! Then I looked harder and now I'm all :???: to what it could be... I also never saw an oil filler like that and went "did they pour oil in the radiator? Where's the pink Deutschland coolant?" Then saw the valve cover for spatial reference in the 2nd pic... Are you rotating with windows picture viewer? It saves "changes" to the picture but tries to preserve the original, so if you crop something you can go back a week later and uncrop it. Stupid Microsoft.
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Yeah, my first reaction was bearing shoe as well, and I was expecting this to result in a "So we looked deeper, and saw holes 1/2" wide in places, leading us to find..." chain of progressively bigger jaw-droppers ending in the total internal destruction of the crankshaft.
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Revolvyerom posted:Yeah, my first reaction was bearing shoe as well, and I was expecting this to result in a "So we looked deeper, and saw holes 1/2" wide in places, leading us to find..." chain of progressively bigger jaw-droppers ending in the total internal destruction of the crankshaft. I wish, we wanted to yank it apart to find out why and where and how but the owner had it towed out as soon as we called to say "Hey we found something nifty in your engine."
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14 INCH DICK TURBO posted:I wish, we wanted to yank it apart to find out why and where and how but the owner had it towed out as soon as we called to say "Hey we found something nifty in your engine." You've got his number, call him in a week and just say its been keeping you awake at nights, you have to know what actually happened!
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How is that not a bearing shell? It even has the notch and everything. What kind of noises was it making? HOW DID IT GET IN THERE? e: The cams don't have bearing shells on those engines so it would have had to come from the bottom end which means it would have to squeeze upwards through an oil galley. I'm gonna tell myself the owner dropped it in through the top to gently caress with you guys and is laughing like a big rear end in a top hat right now. shy boy from chess club fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Jan 18, 2011 |
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Looks like a cam chain guide to me. The cams are timing belt driven, but only to the intake cam. There is an internal chain that drives the exhaust cam. Probably the guide from that. That's my guess, anyway.
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