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pisshead
Oct 24, 2007
I'll keep you all informed as to when the jokes/minute ratio in Episodes rises above zero.

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Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

I think
your hair
looks much
better
pushed
over to
one side

Forty Two posted:

How have I never heard of Dead Set before?! Just started watching it and it's really drat good. I can't believe I didn't know that Brooker had written his own TV series.

E: Davina McCall just got eaten by a zombie. This is brill
Charlie Brooker also co-wrote Nathan Barley with Chris Morris, which was brilliant too.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

:spooky:
Screaming is the only useful thing that we can do.

themonkeythatcried posted:

This seems like a good segue to allow me to say I have the biggest crush on Victoria Coren and I'm not quite sure why...

Ditto, I don't even watch this show - I just loved her in all the wee appearances she makes around TV land. She's hotter than Vorderman.

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.

pisshead posted:

I'll keep you all informed as to when the jokes/minute ratio in Episodes rises above zero.
It's not unrelentingly funny, but I'm finding myself enjoying it.

The Perfect Element
Dec 5, 2005
"This is a bit of a... a poof song"
I think the +1 thing is pretty cool, myself. If you're just hanging out with housemates and want to watch something that everyone likes, it gives you much more scope in what you can choose, especially if you can't be arsed to gently caress around with recording things and what not.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


themonkeythatcried posted:

This seems like a good segue to allow me to say I have the biggest crush on Victoria Coren and I'm not quite sure why...

Add me to this list, although I know exactly why. She is beautiful, intelligent, plays poker and used to review porn.

Also, her brother is a total arse but very funny in those food history programs he does with Sue Perkins. Going out and getting hammered with them both would be awesome fun.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

sebzilla posted:

Add me to this list, although I know exactly why. She is beautiful, intelligent, plays poker and used to review porn.

Wha.... what? Porn? Details please! That is just :psyduck:

Kerbtree
Sep 8, 2008

BAD FALCON!
LAZY!

themonkeythatcried posted:

Wha.... what? Porn? Details please! That is just :psyduck:

Wikipedia posted:

Her books include Love 16 and Once More, with Feeling, about her attempt (with co-author Charlie Skelton) to make the best hard-core porn movie ever. This came off the back of their jobs reviewing porn films for the Erotic Review—a job which led them to believe that most of what they were watching was terrible and that they could make better films themselves.

DougieFFC
Mar 19, 2004

We are Fulham, super Fulham, we are Fulham, fuck Ch*lsea.

Tsaedje posted:

The real reason +1 channels exist is so the broadcasters can charge companies twice as much for the same amount of advertising

Close. Ad-revenue is collected pro-rata to how many people watch those adverts. So if 3 people watch on the main channel, and 1 on the +1, it's 33% more advertising revenue (all else being equal). It's a pretty easy trick that doesn't cost any real extra money beyond buying the slot and transmitting the signal (most acquisitions deals bundle in time-shifted viewing at no extra cost).

As a whole viewers prefer having them to not having them - it's not like there's opportunity cost there. Having Living +1 isn't stopping some plucky new channel from coming into existence.

And then we launched Living +2 :science:

spincube
Jan 31, 2006

I spent :10bux: so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
Grimey Drawer

justcola posted:

Kind of makes me wonder why they don't show Tomorrow's World any more. I suppose it's been replaced by 'Click', but click is pretty much Braniac with consumer gadgets instead of exploding caravans.

No, that's the Gadget Show you're thinking of. The one with Suzi Perry and the bald dickhead gurning at shiny things for an hour and doing Wacky Stunts to compare them. Sorry, no gap in the market for examining the latest in robotics technology; but text this 80 number with your answer to win all the consumer tech gadgets featured on the show!!

InspectorCarbonara
Jul 2, 2010

Evening, patrolmaaan.

spincube posted:

No, that's the Gadget Show you're thinking of. The one with Suzi Perry and the bald dickhead gurning at shiny things for an hour and doing Wacky Stunts to compare them. Sorry, no gap in the market for examining the latest in robotics technology; but text this 80 number with your answer to win all the consumer tech gadgets featured on the show!!

Whenever I see the Gadget Show I'm always amazed at how many prizes they give away then instantly annoyed that they literally spend between 5 and 10 minutes just telling you what you could win.

Psybro
May 12, 2002

Paperhouse posted:

Charlie Brooker also co-wrote Nathan Barley with Chris Morris, which was brilliant too.

I watched two episodes of Nathan Barley and the only time I laughed was when Nathan rode out of a shop on a tricycle and knocked over a display. It was baffling.

I know people say it's because a very specific parody of Hoxton, but I've never been a government policy adviser or retired sitcom writer in LA and still laughed at The Thick Of It and Curb Your Enthusiasm.

Leyburn
Aug 31, 2001
It's not even that specific either, it's not like idiots trying too hard to be cool is a new thing. I watched the whole series and I think the only time I really laughed at it was when he was rapping in bed with that girl.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Pyrovile posted:

Whenever I see the Gadget Show I'm always amazed at how many prizes they give away then instantly annoyed that they literally spend between 5 and 10 minutes just telling you what you could win.

I would probably end up selling about two thirds of the stuff you can win. Crazy prize, I should go in for it more often really.

Uncertain Frog
Jul 28, 2006

What happens if a large asteroid hits Earth? Judging from simulations involving a hammer and a frog, we can assume it will be bad.
So can anyone tell me why reality may be a hologram? I was led to beleive we were part of an inter-dimensional game of marbles.

Aphex-
Jan 29, 2006

Dinosaur Gum

Uncertain Frog posted:

So can anyone tell me why reality may be a hologram? I was led to beleive we were part of an inter-dimensional game of marbles.

They talked about how Stephen Hawking gave a lecture on black holes where he explained that they don't go on forever as previously thought, but they shrink and eventually disappear. This frustrated physicists because they always thought that whatever goes into a black hole never comes out, including the 'information' of matter. If they shrink and disappear, the information is gone, which doesn't conform to the laws of nature. Energy, matter and information can never be created or destroyed, just converted into other things.

One physicist realised that the black hole could be kind of like a hologram. They store 3D information on a 2D plane. So as the matter passes through the event horizon (point of no return) of a black hole, the information stays there, not going further in. The event horizon is a 2d surface, but holds all the information of the 3D matter. This concept could potentially be used to explain the universe. The edges of the universe could potentially be where all the information of the universe is stored. Thus everything inside the universe is just a projection, or hologram of what is happening on the 'event horizon' of the universe.

Granted this is still completely hypothetical, but it's a drat fascinating idea.

Mickolution
Oct 1, 2005

Ballers...I put numbers on the boards

Psybro posted:

I watched two episodes of Nathan Barley and the only time I laughed was when Nathan rode out of a shop on a tricycle and knocked over a display. It was baffling.

I know people say it's because a very specific parody of Hoxton, but I've never been a government policy adviser or retired sitcom writer in LA and still laughed at The Thick Of It and Curb Your Enthusiasm.

It gets a hard time, but for some reason me and most of my mates love it. I think the fact that there isn't one likable main character in it that puts people off.

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.

Mickolution posted:

It gets a hard time, but for some reason me and most of my mates love it. I think the fact that there isn't one likable main character in it that puts people off.

That's the BEST thing about it! in fact, there isn't a single likable character in the whole thing that I can think of, other than Kevin Eldons unfortunate barber and *possibly* Noel Fieldings crap DJ simply because there's absolutely no malice in him. Even Pingu is too much of a doormat to really be a "good" guy

I don't really see it as a laugh out loud type show anyway, it's MEANT to make you hate humanity

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



Ah. I have been doing it all wrong. I never realised attempted sexual assault was a viable wooing technique, as seen on My Big Fat Gypsy Weddings.

Mickolution
Oct 1, 2005

Ballers...I put numbers on the boards

Fatkraken posted:

That's the BEST thing about it! in fact, there isn't a single likable character in the whole thing that I can think of, other than Kevin Eldons unfortunate barber and *possibly* Noel Fieldings crap DJ simply because there's absolutely no malice in him. Even Pingu is too much of a doormat to really be a "good" guy

I don't really see it as a laugh out loud type show anyway, it's MEANT to make you hate humanity

Ohh absolutely. I meant that was why some people mightn't like it.

Yeah, Pingu's the only main character really who isn't an absolute bastard as well as the barber, but he was only in that one scene. Maybe the receptionist at sugaRAPE, but she's not in it much.

The Trashbat Party is one of the best scenes I can think of from a sitcom. Perfectly sums up the show really.

edit: Dan's probably the worst person out of all of them, of course, because he knows their scum but keeps going along with them.

Metrication
Dec 12, 2010

Raskin had one problem: Jobs regarded him as an insufferable theorist or, to use Jobs's own more precise terminology, "a shithead who sucks".
I love Nathan Barley. I'm actually rewatching it on 4od right now. Benedict Cumberbatch is the accountant for the guy that offers the film grant. I like the way, despite Nathan being an appalling human being he always wins.

Metrication fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Jan 18, 2011

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.

Mickolution posted:

edit: Dan's probably the worst person out of all of them, of course, because he knows their scum but keeps going along with them.

Definitely. I think he actually becomes WORSE as the show goes on (or maybe it's just seeing more of him). He's got an inflated sense of his own worth, he's a bully (the way he treats Nathan is often pretty similar to how Nathan treats Pingu, exemplified in the final episode with the terrorist thing), he's feckless, lazy and arrogant.

It's interesting to go through both Brooker and Morris' other work and see elements that were used in Nathan Barley. With Brooker it's fairly clear, there's oval office in the TVGOHOME columns and other bits and bobs. With Morris, there's a lot of stuff about the London Set in the Blue Jam radio series. He did ten or eleven monologues including "suicide journalist" and the piece that became "My Wrongs", from the perspective of a deeply disturbed man caught up in this strange city life surrounded by these awful vapid people. More colour supplement than Nathan Barleys anarchic internet, but there's definitely personality traits and kinds of people that come through in both.

HoldYourFire
Oct 16, 2006

What's the time? It's DEFCON 1!

Metrication posted:

I'm actually rewatching it on 4od right now.

Oh God why didn't I think of this?!

DaWolfey
Oct 25, 2003

College Slice
Jonattan Yeah? is Thom Yorke

(Also professing my love for Nathan Barley)

Terrorists are gay,
Terrorists are gay,
Terrorists are gay!
... it's obvious!

Metrication
Dec 12, 2010

Raskin had one problem: Jobs regarded him as an insufferable theorist or, to use Jobs's own more precise terminology, "a shithead who sucks".
Jonattan Yeah? is my favourite character. I kind of get the impression he has the same opinions as Dan but chooses to act like an idiot.

seregrail7
Nov 3, 2006
Jonattan Yeah? is fantastic as well because he knows how poo poo the magazine is and how daft all the people are, but he doesn't really give a gently caress and just goes with the lifestyle and does well out of it, he's sort of Dan without the fake morals and overly large sense of self worth.

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

incredible bear posted:

And then what? Does it come with a previous bundle or will it be charging something new entirely.

It's on the Variety bundle, the same one as Sky 1. It does baffle me a bit because it feels like a lot of money has been spent on the channel that they're not going to be recouping - I'd have thought it belonged on the Movies bundle.

Incidentally I saw the first two episodes of Boardwalk Empire in a special preview and it was pretty decent, if a tad confusing. I find it hard to tell people apart if they change their clothes and hair when they've only been in the show a tiny bit, and it happens quite a lot.

Alan BStard
Oct 25, 2003

Izzy wizzy, let's get Byzzy!
Timecop is on the iPlayer, for the few of you that have good taste to truly appreciate.

cloudchamber
Aug 6, 2010

You know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It's feeble. I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine

Alan BStard posted:

Timecop is on the iPlayer, for the few of you that have good taste to truly appreciate.

Goodbye Solo is also on there, watch that first.

John_Anon_Smith
Nov 26, 2007
:smug:

cloudchamber posted:

Goodbye Solo is also on there, watch that first.

A fantastic film, that I also recommend to everyone in this thread. To talk much about it would be to do a disservice to those that have yet to see it.

lol but
Feb 24, 2007

body is a dinosaur
Slippery Tilde

NaDy posted:

Granted this is still completely hypothetical, but it's a drat fascinating idea.

More specifically, the maximum amount of information an area of space can hold depends on the size of the surface area bounding it, not the the volume as you'd probably expect. I find this mind-blowing enough without needing to speculate madly on the nature of existence/blackholes/whatever.

Also, no mention of Gerard T'Hooft who also invented the theory around the same time and who's name literally translates to Gerard The Head.

Padje
Sep 10, 2003

I don't much care for the attitude of filthy money-lenders

Trickjaw posted:

Ah. I have been doing it all wrong. I never realised attempted sexual assault was a viable wooing technique, as seen on My Big Fat Gypsy Weddings.

Lovely technique. Pressure the girl into submitting. Physically harm the girl into submitting. If she submits to end the abuse she either has to marry the bloke or be known as a slag for kissing a guy who won't be her husband to be.

There's a book called Gypsy Boy by Mikey Walsh available in HMV for a couple of quid that deals with the roma gypsies, told by a soft boy who grew up in a fighting culture quite similar to that of the Irish travellers in the Channel 4 show. I'd recommend a read to discover the world of hurt and misogyny that the papers ignore in favour of more selfish 'they're putting caravans on our empty fields!' lines of attack.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Theshby posted:

More specifically, the maximum amount of information an area of space can hold depends on the size of the surface area bounding it, not the the volume as you'd probably expect. I find this mind-blowing enough without needing to speculate madly on the nature of existence/blackholes/whatever.

Black holes have negligible volume but a large surface area then, I guess. Due to the warping of the gravity and so on. Interesting stuff.

Rude Dude With Tude
Apr 19, 2007

Your President approves this text.
Live from Studio Five has been cancelled, to the surprise of absolutely nobody. Also, new branding!

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
I'm sure this will set Channel 5 on a new path to being taken seriously!

MyChemicalImbalance
Sep 15, 2007

Keep on smilin'



:unsmith:
My Big Fat Gyspy Wedding was hillarious, as long as you were able to block out the misogyny, racism and general discomfort that comes with watching women in the 21st century talk about how fair it is that they can't work or leave home alone.

Sion
Oct 16, 2004

"I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."
That Channel 5 thing, right, looks like it uses the exact same font and letter 5 as was on the side of Thunderbird 5.

Padje
Sep 10, 2003

I don't much care for the attitude of filthy money-lenders
Which one was Thunderbird 5? Are they going to leave this channel to rot in space?

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

NaDy posted:

One physicist realised that the black hole could be kind of like a hologram. They store 3D information on a 2D plane. So as the matter passes through the event horizon (point of no return) of a black hole, the information stays there, not going further in. The event horizon is a 2d surface, but holds all the information of the 3D matter. This concept could potentially be used to explain the universe. The edges of the universe could potentially be where all the information of the universe is stored. Thus everything inside the universe is just a projection, or hologram of what is happening on the 'event horizon' of the universe.

Thanks for writing that, I was a little bored by the first half hour and just got up the stephen hawking bit when I decided to have a nap. I wish Horizon would get over the double slit experiment, gosh. I'm not sure if it's because of the stuff I watch but it's been in pretty much all of them with various degrees of cgi.

I quite liked Nathan Barley. But I'm an art student so see/saw a lot of what they were riffing on. Welcome to creativilization.

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Kid Moe
Mar 18, 2009

Hello Mr.Thompson
Simon Amstell guest presenting Buzzcocks tonight with that oval office Noel Fielding replaced by Russel Brand.

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