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Psybro posted:A great thing about Stewart Lee is that he satirises people who won't like his act, during the act, and actually does it throughout the Top Gear bit, something lost on people who prefer stuff like the American stand-ups he takes the piss out of. So wait... what's the problem with that particular scene again?
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Just that it's repeatedly cited as being the "number one best comedy moment of all time ever in the world!"
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Feb 7, 2011 20:45
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Leyburn posted:So wait... what's the problem with that particular scene again? I imagine a lot of people will find this post very contrarian no matter what so I may as well go all out and throw in Fawlty Towers and Dad's Army in there with it too. They're not funny. gently caress it: Father Ted and Red Dwarf weren't as good as people remember either.
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Here's the bit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYM_Jy20Fcg#t=3m40s
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Feb 7, 2011 20:48
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Hoops posted:I dunno, in my opinion Only Fools and Horses has dated horribly, has never made me laugh even once and is looked upon with nostalgia-tinted glasses by a shockingly high number of people as some great British sitcom institution. If they aired it now it would get slaughtered in the press. I'll take people's word for it that it was hilarious in its day but that style of comedy is long gone now and personally it does nothing for me. Madness, every single word!
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Feb 7, 2011 20:54
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Every bit of stand-up I've seen from Stewart Lee has made him seem incredibly bitter that he's never achieved a lasting mainstream success. This is no exception. I'm sure if someone came along and deconstructed his act in incredibly sarcastic terms it wouldn't seem particularly funny, but unfortunately he's not famous enough for anyone to want to.
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Leyburn posted:Madness, every single word! I pretty much agree with what he said about Only Fools, but I disagree with everything else afterwards.
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Trin Tragula posted:Every bit of stand-up I've seen from Stewart Lee has made him seem incredibly bitter that he's never achieved a lasting mainstream success. This is no exception. I'm sure if someone came along and deconstructed his act in incredibly sarcastic terms it wouldn't seem particularly funny, but unfortunately he's not famous enough for anyone to want to.
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Feb 7, 2011 21:19
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I dunno, I reckon Only Fools and Horses is the best sitcom this country has ever made, you've just got to pretend those last three never happened.
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Feb 7, 2011 21:21
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Richard Ayoade's film Submarine now has a trailer and a release date in March: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STeh-mQSQyE
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cloudchamber posted:Richard Ayoade's film Submarine now has a trailer and a release date in March: Interesting. Also, maybe Only Fools differers from person to person and how much their personal feelings are about London.
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Leyburn posted:So wait... what's the problem with that particular scene again? Nothing, it's about the fact that a straightforward bit of slapstick has attained legendary status far beyond its significance because of the lazy reductiveness in popular culture, that produces these talking heads shows focusing on individual moments. Del Boy falling through the bar is mostly funny because of the outstanding job done on writing his character, the scenario, and David Jason's performance. Trin Tragula posted:Every bit of stand-up I've seen from Stewart Lee has made him seem incredibly bitter that he's never achieved a lasting mainstream success. He admits that his onstage persona is often an exaggeration of his worst qualities, something that is true of most stand-ups. He has made a calculated decision to appeal to an intellectual audience mistrustful of, and fed up of, mainstream culture. Nobody would pay to watch a man complain for an hour that nobody likes him.
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Psybro posted:Nothing, it's about the fact that a straightforward bit of slapstick has attained legendary status far beyond its significance because of the lazy reductiveness in popular culture, that produces these talking heads shows focusing on individual moments. Yeah after watching the clip I completely get where Lee is coming from, I had never seen that bit before.
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Feb 7, 2011 21:37
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The point about the bar scene is that it's funny the first time you watch it because it's unexpected. It's also quite funny the second time because you're anticipating it. It's not funny the fiftieth time and constantly repeating, and re-repeating it out of context, and actually analyzing the scene and the performances, ruins an otherwise perfectly good piece of comedy slapstick. The worst thing you can do to a joke is repeat it and dissect it. Gram-O-Phone fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Feb 7, 2011 |
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Feb 7, 2011 21:43
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Outcraps, er I mean Outcasts starts on BBC One in a couple of minutes, hopefully it won't be another BBC piece of poo poo like Survivors and The Deep. [edit]This child actor is awful, I hope a meteor lands on him. Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Feb 7, 2011 |
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Feb 7, 2011 21:58
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I really can't see any BBC produced drama appealing to me, but I may as well give this a bash for one episode at least. Why not in HD BBC?
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Feb 7, 2011 22:03
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My favourite bit is when Trigger makes that face.
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I'm only half watching it but Outcasts seems pretty standard fare for BBC sci-fi that isn't Doctor Who: pretty poo poo. I don't care what anyone says about Survivors though, that show was hilarious because it was so poo poo. It was so poo poo it was amazing, and I'm genuinely and unironically disappointed it's been canned.
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And that last british scfi attempt on BBC3, that comedy poo poo fest, cant remember its name. Its looking good so far, I know Jamie Bamber is british but damm can he pull off different accents well, I remember him from Battlestar.
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Feb 7, 2011 22:10
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N3RDSTER posted:I'm only half watching it but Outcasts seems pretty standard fare for BBC sci-fi that isn't Doctor Who: pretty poo poo. I agree with N3RDSTER. "people are clapping" BLAAAAAH, boring. Glad I was kicked out the front room and so am watching this in my bedroom so my family won't hate me for having this on the big telly :genericsmiley:
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Feb 7, 2011 22:21
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yeh the speech and clapping bit was cringeworthy
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Feb 7, 2011 22:25
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Anyone else hoping the ship crashes into the colony?
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Feb 7, 2011 22:26
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Like a missile
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Feb 7, 2011 22:29
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Child actors need to be banned EDIT: I hope he gets eaten by tigers Fatkraken fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Feb 7, 2011 |
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Feb 7, 2011 22:29
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This has been grating on me the whole episode too: Carpathia. I don't think I could come up with a more generic sci-fi name for a planet if you paid me. I don't care if it was actually the name of a ship.
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Fatkraken posted:Child actors need to be banned Hes going to drown him!
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Fatkraken posted:Child actors need to be banned This. Other than the kids acting I'm enjoying it
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Feb 7, 2011 22:36
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On the plus side, Starship Troopers 3 on channel 5 right afterwards. OH NO he done fell down de mown-tin
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Feb 7, 2011 22:37
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Feb 7, 2011 22:38
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CALLING IT NOW GHOST ALIENS Jamie Bambers second personality is totally a ghost alien
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Fatkraken posted:CALLING IT NOW GHOST ALIENS A fat ghost alien tiger
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Feb 7, 2011 22:45
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Ah the alien angle already EDIT: YESSSSS kill!
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Feb 7, 2011 22:45
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Hope this poo poo explodes.
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Blow up stupid captain
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I hope the aliens are from the spaces between spaces.
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I just realised I want every character in this to die.
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