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cubicle gangster
Jun 26, 2005

magda, make the tea
He used to be terrible and never turn up to gigs, got to the point where nobody could be arsed booking him. When he started to get big he was a loving nightmare to deal with apparently.

May have changed these days, but his reputation came from him doing it for years.

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MrSargent
Dec 23, 2003

Sometimes, there's a man, well, he's the man for his time and place. He fits right in there. And that's Jimmy T.
I feel bad that the first track I posted was that uppermost track because I didn't know that was dubstep. It really isn't like all of the other music I have listened to which is definitely more electro and house music. My second link had some mixes that a friend of mine did but I didn't get any feedback about them and I think they are much closer to what this thread is about. He is relatively new into DJing but I enjoyed his mixes. Would love to hear your thoughts.

Here is the link again:
http://soundcloud.com/djspecial_k

THAT DAMN DOG
Oct 26, 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEYYopKGPxY
Felguk - Side by Side Uppermost remix, this sounds INSANE on a club system. Didn't know he did dubstep too.

MrSargent posted:

I feel bad that the first track I posted was that uppermost track because I didn't know that was dubstep. It really isn't like all of the other music I have listened to which is definitely more electro and house music. My second link had some mixes that a friend of mine did but I didn't get any feedback about them and I think they are much closer to what this thread is about. He is relatively new into DJing but I enjoyed his mixes. Would love to hear your thoughts.

Here is the link again:
http://soundcloud.com/djspecial_k

I would tell him to practice more and lay off the loop button. Get your mixing down pat then start getting creative.

Ponce de Le0n
Jul 6, 2008

Father jailed for beating 3 kids after they wouldn't say who farted in his car

cubicle gangster posted:

He used to be terrible and never turn up to gigs, got to the point where nobody could be arsed booking him. When he started to get big he was a loving nightmare to deal with apparently.

May have changed these days, but his reputation came from him doing it for years.

Still happens on a number of nights with different djs hence some lineups looking pretty bloated. Really annoying if you're the type of person who get tickets to see one dj though. Just get a buzz on and enjoy the music i guess.

cubicle gangster
Jun 26, 2005

magda, make the tea
Thats insane. If someone pulls that poo poo round here they're hosed.

I remember a while ago when a fairly huge dj was supposed to be playing at circus. He didnt turn up and there was a note around the club saying he'd got flu and couldnt make it.
The next day someone went on the circus messageboard with a bunch of photos they'd found of him in barcelona the night before, clearly absolutley loving smashed and playing into the early hours, including a few of him at an afterparty.
He ended up playing a 5 hour set for his old fee to keep it quiet... haha.


I'm moving over to new york in a few months and i'm keeping my expectations very low when it comes to music. Far as i'm aware there's the wolf & lamb parties and another I cant recall atm which are good, but i'm not sure how it fares for actual techno.

phractured
Feb 21, 2008

cubicle gangster posted:

Thats insane. If someone pulls that poo poo round here they're hosed.

I remember a while ago when a fairly huge dj was supposed to be playing at circus. He didnt turn up and there was a note around the club saying he'd got flu and couldnt make it.
The next day someone went on the circus messageboard with a bunch of photos they'd found of him in barcelona the night before, clearly absolutley loving smashed and playing into the early hours, including a few of him at an afterparty.
He ended up playing a 5 hour set for his old fee to keep it quiet... haha.


I'm moving over to new york in a few months and i'm keeping my expectations very low when it comes to music. Far as i'm aware there's the wolf & lamb parties and another I cant recall atm which are good, but i'm not sure how it fares for actual techno.

Terminal 5 usually gets some good shows. However, a lot of the clubs are saturated with the Jersey Shore.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009
I'm gonna assume you mean the more strict definition of techno- if you have any questions about other edm in ny i can share my thoughts on that as well. If you take a look at resident advisor they will have most of the more high profile events. I prefer the more manic 90s techno and don't really go to techno events that often (I prefer hip hop/house/disco/funk/and such) but I enjoy keeping tabs on what is going on and what sort of music is growing in NY so take all this with my biases in mind.

A few parties that caught my eye on RA over the next couple weeks are Dan Bell, Ben Klock and some other berghain type djs, Derrick May + Carl Craig, Jeff Mills, Oliver Ho, some djs from Droid Behavior, Laurent Garnier and Josh Wink. You can go to techno parties at a variety of venues. Dance club venues such as good units, district 36, sullivan room, and cielo are in manhatten and have a lot of the big name guests, but are somewhat of a dying breed and people like to wax poetic over the hedonism of the sound factory and twilo that Giuliani shut down. Smaller venues in like public assembly in williamsburg (see the bunker parties) or national underground in the les tend to bring in less well known names but have a more relaxed vibe. Then, promoters like black market membership and others also throw stuff in warehouses/lofts etc sometimes. Also the rave scene has techno djs sometimes if you can stand a bunch of 16 year olds rolling. Last call is at 4am but clubs will regularly play till 5 or 6 and many spots will do afterhours well into the next day.

There are a lot of complaints that can be made of the techno scene: of the venues i mentioned only cielo and district 36 (which quite possibly will not last) can be said to have top class soundsystems but are expensive and quite strict in many ways. The crowds at the bunker parties(which tends to have the techno djs i'm most interested in) are less energetic than I've come to expect from hiphop/disco/soul/house parties in ny(although I've never stayed for the afterhours at bunker) There can be too many/too few/the wrong kind/ of drugs depending on what you are into. Too much scarf techno not enough detroit stuff/ too many old djs not enough new djs/nerdy crowds/ etc etc. However, despite the complaints I think if you have a genuine enjoyment of techno ny is probably one of the better cities in the US and there is plenty of stuff to do, and as far as the overall music scene NY is pretty amazing.

Don't go to terminal 5 for techno or anything really.

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
Danger's remix of Me & You by Nero is loving out of control awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqvEkJ05Zkg.

visuvius
Sep 24, 2007
sta da moor
Can anyone in the LA area give some recommendations for decent clubs that play basically everything in this thread?

Stuntastic
Jul 11, 2009

weed cave weed saves

visuvius posted:

Can anyone in the LA area give some recommendations for decent clubs that play basically everything in this thread?

Look at any of the Mad Decent parties, and a big one that I've seen posted in here a lot is Avalon.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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visuvius posted:

Can anyone in the LA area give some recommendations for decent clubs that play basically everything in this thread?

School nights! on monday, dim mak (sometimes) on tuesday, check your pony tail 2 thrursday, avalon (like Stuntastic indicated) friday, and a choice between the avalon and the music box on Saturday (they generally showcase more conventional house DJs).

Most of these are pop collar/orange people free nights. The avalon, however, on fridays can be a toss up depending on whos playing.

incoherent fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Feb 6, 2011

THAT DAMN DOG
Oct 26, 2009
Always wanted to check out Control @ Avalon when I lived in SoCal. Control is held on Fridays. My buddy here from Vegas Lightknife played with PeaceTreaty and Felguk this past Friday. They regularly have big names like Dada Life, Porter Robinson, Wolfgang Gartner, and Major Lazer go through. ///BONES who runs Gottadancedirty regularly headlines there too.

Longtiem
Feb 9, 2010

phractured posted:

Terminal 5 usually gets some good shows. However, a lot of the clubs are saturated with the Jersey Shore.

The only way to save the new york music scene is to bomb every club in the city on a saturday night and start over

Threatis
Sep 28, 2005

congrats on figuring out how to use a machine with 4 buttons

Longtiem posted:

The only way to save the new york music scene is to bomb every club in the city on a saturday night and start over

i love it when people from new york complain about new york

RollingBoBo
Aug 25, 2008

living that high life

Stuntastic posted:

Gonna be in Montreal for spring break, any recommendations on venues/clubs?

email me @ the_moneymaker@hotmail.com i can link you all the fb events in the week you're going. designer drugs are coming on march 12.

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
Stereo Love is rotting my brain.

cubicle gangster
Jun 26, 2005

magda, make the tea

plogo posted:

I'm gonna assume you mean the more strict definition of techno-

Mate, thats loving awesome. Your namedropping was spot on so i'm pretty sure that's some good advice!
I probably wont be over till june/july so i've saved your post :)

the unabonger
Jun 21, 2009
http://blogs.1077theend.com/internbryce/2011/02/05/the-onus-is-on-us-jfk-of-mstrkrftdfa1979/

Pretty insightful interview from JFK. It mostly gets me pumped on hearing the Led Zepplin III of MSTRKRFT.

swimming anime
Jan 4, 2006

my latest mix, house and nu-disco!

http://soundcloud.com/rararasputin/rasputin-32-degrees

ESG - Moody
First Choice - Let No Man Put Asunder (Ron's Edit)
Escort - Cocaine Blues (MaddJazz Bootleg)
Mike Genius - Paradise Garage
Kid Sister - Do Do Do (Strip Steve's Jacked Up Remix)
Kings of the Universe - What I Like (Yeah! Woho! Coma Cat Remix)
Miami Horror - Holidays
Moullinex - Love it is, Then
Swedish House Mafia - One (Fare Soldi 'Buzzurry' Remix)
Second City Rhythm - You've Got Me
Viceroy - Oh Yeah
Fake Blood - I Think I Like It [Tommie Sunshine & Figure Edit]
The Phantom's Revenge - Mr. Fahrenheit
Cerrone - Give Me Love (MixChopin Bootleg)
I Never Dance - I Never Dance
Grum - Heartbeats
Chilly Gonzales - You Can Dance (Gemini Club Remix)

Threatis
Sep 28, 2005

congrats on figuring out how to use a machine with 4 buttons

The Fresh Prince posted:

http://blogs.1077theend.com/internbryce/2011/02/05/the-onus-is-on-us-jfk-of-mstrkrftdfa1979/

Pretty insightful interview from JFK. It mostly gets me pumped on hearing the Led Zepplin III of MSTRKRFT.

mark my words. the new album is going to be worse that Fist.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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For those of you who hate electric daisy carnival LA weeklys reporters are aggressively following the promoters pandering and concessions to the LA city council so they can put on "the worlds most deadliest rave". I think today they've found a way to end the mindset that plagued last years festival.

:munch:

JimmyJazz
May 22, 2007

quote:

Former LAPD narcotics officer Trinka Porrata, a rave expert,

Justin Timberwolf
Jun 18, 2005

[instrumental]

quote:

The promoter states that it has "introduced" a "Get Up and Dance Crew" that will prevent people from sitting on walkways and dance floors

Also known as "bouncers"!

OniKun
Jul 23, 2003

Cheap Mexican Labor since the late 80's
The Get-up-and-Dance crews have been there since last year. And EDC is still going to be a massive trainwreck because half the rules that are posted on the flyers are never followed anyway. Saw a lot of Massagers, Winnie-the-Pooh backpacks, plush animals, and other silly toys inside of the last three "massives" I've gone to, despite them being banned.

cubicle gangster
Jun 26, 2005

magda, make the tea
I want everyone in america to stop saying the words 'rave' or 'dance parties'. Once the promoters stop it should trickle down.

It makes people sound like out of touch dads who's school friends went to parties and took drugs in the 80's but who never had the chance to go himself.

cubicle gangster fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Feb 8, 2011

infinity2005
Apr 12, 2005
y halo thar lol

OniKun posted:

The Get-up-and-Dance crews have been there since last year. And EDC is still going to be a massive trainwreck because half the rules that are posted on the flyers are never followed anyway. Saw a lot of Massagers, Winnie-the-Pooh backpacks, plush animals, and other silly toys inside of the last three "massives" I've gone to, despite them being banned.

Why do they though, i really don't get it? It sounds associated happy hardcore (obviously), but there hasn't been any of the old style of happy hardcore released for over 10 years. And the specific craze of childish tracks like Hixxy & Sharkey - Toytown was extremely short-lived all the way back in 1996, all the clones of it got annoying very quickly as you'd imagine. There was no weird subculture related to it here either.

It really seems strange some US ravers still latching onto this extremely small subgenre. It's not like it's just a little period where this has taken place as a form of nostalgia either, people have been seemingly been doing this since back then in the US. I looked at the lineup for last year, and there wasn't even a hardcore artist on any stage, let alone anyone doing a throwback happy hardcore set. It's completely out of place with all the music on offer.

swimming anime
Jan 4, 2006

infinity2005 posted:

Why do they though, i really don't get it? It sounds associated happy hardcore (obviously), but there hasn't been any of the old style of happy hardcore released for over 10 years. And the specific craze of childish tracks like Hixxy & Sharkey - Toytown was extremely short-lived all the way back in 1996, all the clones of it got annoying very quickly as you'd imagine. There was no weird subculture related to it here either.

It really seems strange some US ravers still latching onto this extremely small subgenre. It's not like it's just a little period where this has taken place as a form of nostalgia either, people have been seemingly been doing this since back then in the US. I looked at the lineup for last year, and there wasn't even a hardcore artist on any stage, let alone anyone doing a throwback happy hardcore set. It's completely out of place with all the music on offer.

I think you're way overestimating US ravers. The last rave-esque event I went to was probably ~90% hardcore, 10% lady gaga, bad daft punk remixes, etc. This was in 2010. Raves have not changed at all. The thing is too is I think in england 'rave' is a much broader term, here it's very specifically large-scale glowsticks-and-e mid-90s techno parties.

Ponce de Le0n
Jul 6, 2008

Father jailed for beating 3 kids after they wouldn't say who farted in his car

zerojake posted:

I think you're way overestimating US ravers. The last rave-esque event I went to was probably ~90% hardcore, 10% lady gaga, bad daft punk remixes, etc. This was in 2010. Raves have not changed at all. The thing is too is I think in england 'rave' is a much broader term, here it's very specifically large-scale glowsticks-and-e mid-90s techno parties.

Ive never been to a "rave" which has turned out to have hardcore djs playing and ive been on a few nights out where i didnt really even know who i was going to see. "Rave" in the uk tends to have connotations a bit with "nu-rave" and indie shite thanks to the NME and all that bollocks but that was years ago. Rave nowadays can mean anything from DnB, techno, dubstep, garage, grime, indie, electro, pop etc etc.

That said the word "rave" is hardly used over here, partly because most people still think back to the notorious illegal raves that happened around londons orbital ring road back in the late 80's early 90's and tbh none of the events on now are anything like that at all.

Only word ive heard nowadays is "events" which is much better than rave or party.

Vernacular
Nov 29, 2004
"Music festivals" is the way to go. Telling your parents that you're going to a music festival is way more palatable than announcing your intention to go to a 100,000 person rave in South Central. Pretty simple.

incoherent posted:

For those of you who hate electric daisy carnival LA weeklys reporters are aggressively following the promoters pandering and concessions to the LA city council so they can put on "the worlds most deadliest rave". I think today they've found a way to end the mindset that plagued last years festival.

:munch:

Amateur fuckin journalism. Those guys don't even try to hide their bias. Even when necessary steps like drug education are taken, they respond like this. Not that I'm a huge proponent of EDC (it gets more unbearable each year), but these amateur bloggers masquerading as journalists are doing a disservice to their trade.

swimming anime
Jan 4, 2006

LE0N posted:

Ive never been to a "rave" which has turned out to have hardcore djs playing and ive been on a few nights out where i didnt really even know who i was going to see. "Rave" in the uk tends to have connotations a bit with "nu-rave" and indie shite thanks to the NME and all that bollocks but that was years ago. Rave nowadays can mean anything from DnB, techno, dubstep, garage, grime, indie, electro, pop etc etc.

That said the word "rave" is hardly used over here, partly because most people still think back to the notorious illegal raves that happened around londons orbital ring road back in the late 80's early 90's and tbh none of the events on now are anything like that at all.

Only word ive heard nowadays is "events" which is much better than rave or party.

Yeah I really have no idea but like when I hear annie mac talking about 'raving' or whatever as a word for going out to a club maybe that's just slang that doesn't translate-- we'd never use it that way--raving is what kandi kids do.

Even the actual illegal warehouse parties that still happen here, nobody would call them raves because of the unfashionable associations. I think it was Hipster Runoff actually I remember making a joke about ravers being the 'juggalos of the dance world.' To me the flak about EDC and stuff is so confusing because it's like-- not only are the newspapers obviously outdated, but the idea that there are apparently gigantic swaths of West-Coast tweens who are so behind the times is baffling.

Vernacular
Nov 29, 2004
I think a fair percentage of the upholding of the term "rave" is subversion. All this anti-rave business in LA is spawning an anti-establishment sentiment, and alot of kids are sporting the attitude of "what's so bad about the rave? why should we change? rave4lyfe!" It makes sense.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

infinity2005 posted:

Why do they though, i really don't get it? It sounds associated happy hardcore (obviously), but there hasn't been any of the old style of happy hardcore released for over 10 years. And the specific craze of childish tracks like Hixxy & Sharkey - Toytown was extremely short-lived all the way back in 1996, all the clones of it got annoying very quickly as you'd imagine. There was no weird subculture related to it here either.

Some of the stuff is happy hardcore inspired I guess, but weird rave outfits / candy have been a part of the east coast scene since at the least the nasa parties in the early 90s, and that culture has persisted for reasons I'm not sure I understand. I'm not entirely sure what happens on the west coast, but east coast raves tend to have tons of hardcore djs.

zerojake posted:


Even the actual illegal warehouse parties that still happen here, nobody would call them raves because of the unfashionable associations.

There are still self identified raves here with ravers on a weekly basis, though yes, it is smaller culture than the west coast.

plogo fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Feb 8, 2011

Ponce de Le0n
Jul 6, 2008

Father jailed for beating 3 kids after they wouldn't say who farted in his car
Kinda glad all hardcore has seemingly relocated to wigan pier in the uk, thank gently caress there is literally no reason to go to wigan.

the unabonger
Jun 21, 2009
Whenever anyone asks if I'm going to a rave they're almost always over 30. They're usually music festivals, concerts or renegades here. I still have yet to hear a single happy hardcore song in Santa Cruz.

Firaga
Jan 4, 2005
WHAT YOU SAY
Toronto still has tons of gross kandi kids and lots of all ages parties. The scene is huuuge here. I see kandi kids everywhere.
The music has mostly switched over to dubstep/electro but you still hear a lot of hardcore/happy hardcore. E/M has been taken over by K. We have promoters and promotion companies that bank on this stuff. "Raves", by definition, are still really common and don't look like they are going away any time soon.

I guess it wouldn't be so bad if kandi kids weren't so incredibly obnoxious, or if they actually booked people who knew how to dj for these events.

Also some of the bigger 19+ promoters and djs in the city are trying to "bring back the underground, and raving" by renting out warehouses and basements. Mostly kandi kids and ravers end up going and it's actually loving with the quality of the shows in the rest of the city because they are tied up with this poo poo and if I want to go see a decent show I need to pay 15+ bucks to see an international act at one of the bigger venues.

I just want some house music.

edit: CONTENT! New Cirez D!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIchb5jOY40

Firaga fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Feb 10, 2011

Vernacular
Nov 29, 2004
EDC totally isn't gonna happen http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-coliseum-raves-20110210,0,1894821.story?page=1&track=rss

JimmyJazz
May 22, 2007
thats lovely. as long as insomniac keeps being so incompetent and these journalists keep being commissioned by private interest to demonize local dance events, soon enough everything will be nice and underground again and just as dangerous as it ever was

Vernacular
Nov 29, 2004
Lindstrom playing tonight at the Vanguard for any interested LA folk. Its free before midnight with RSVP http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=187840291238933

Furnace
Mar 31, 2004

12 teams is where it's at, right? Yeah! Right? Yeah! Right? Yeah! Right? YEAH! SOME THINGS YOU CAN'T UNSEE, BRO!
I hate LA. :(

However, I'm seeing Holy Ghost! dj tonight, and might might might be going to see Steve Angello lol

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Vernacular
Nov 29, 2004

Furnace posted:

Steve Angello

I swear I hear Knas literally every time I go out

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