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Arcaeris posted:Ugh, I wish I'd bought DQ6 in Japanese like a year ago. I know Barbara was a more common name in 1995 or whatever, and it's not now, but Ashlynn? Are you serious? What kind of a name is Ashlynn? I agree that renaming Barbara to Ashlynn is a bad decision, but there’s pun value. Red hair = fire = ashes = ASHlynn. She also learns Madante/Magic Burst which pretty much reduces enemies to cinders, so there are some more ashes. I think it’s interjecting a pun where a pun need not go, sort of like renaming Flora to Nera in DQ5 (still not sure what the Nera pun is, to be honest) while leaving Debora and Bianca’s names intact and punless. That’s one of my few complaints about the current DQ localization team, their inconsistent treatment of party members’ names.
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Terpfen posted:I agree that renaming Barbara to Ashlynn is a bad decision, but there’s pun value. Red hair = fire = ashes = ASHlynn. She also learns Madante/Magic Burst which pretty much reduces enemies to cinders, so there are some more ashes. Also her town burned to the ground so more ashes. Renaming Hassan to Carver (also a bad decision IMO) has pun value too since he's a carpenter's son. Yeah the Japanese DQ games abound in lovely puns but not in the names usually.
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Feb 25, 2011 19:26
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Johnny Longtorso posted:
I dunno, I think people just assume you have to grind to level 99 or something to beat the game. I beat DQ viii my main character was maybe level 38 and no one even had 100 in their skills yet. I made my monster teams do most of the leg work though the last castle.
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Feb 25, 2011 19:37
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Well I finally got access to Alltrades, and it only took getting my poo poo pushed in by Murdaw one and a half times (one full-blown wipe out with the second attempt coming down to a half-dead Carver and Milly with 1 MP). Is class changing in DQ6 similar to DQ3 where most any mix of classes/roles will serve you well short of making everyone a Goof-Off?
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Feb 26, 2011 02:13
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Finally got my copy of DQ6 from the Amazon gold box sale. Picked up a copy of Lufia: Curse of the Sinistrals. Absolutely LOVED Lufia 1 and 2 in my younger days. There shall be much gaming this weekend.
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Feb 26, 2011 02:15
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Falconer posted:Well I finally got access to Alltrades, and it only took getting my poo poo pushed in by Murdaw one and a half times (one full-blown wipe out with the second attempt coming down to a half-dead Carver and Milly with 1 MP). Is class changing in DQ6 similar to DQ3 where most any mix of classes/roles will serve you well short of making everyone a Goof-Off? Certain combinations will make certain dungeons or bosses more difficult, but nothing will hamstring you to the point of failure... except, of course, for that aforementioned Goof-Off party.
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Feb 26, 2011 02:22
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Falconer posted:Is class changing in DQ6 similar to DQ3 where most any mix of classes/roles will serve you well short of making everyone a Goof-Off? Seems so. My only suggestion would be to get your melee fighters trained in Martial Arts until they learn Roundhouse Kick because that's a pretty awesome ability that hits an entire group for 0 MP, so it turns their best weapon into an effective whip. Pretty much every fighting class comes with useful skills though. I haven't used much magic. I've been relying on the Staff of Ghent for healing 90% of the time, and most of my brawlers do far more damage with their weapons then my best mage can do with her second best spell (though Magic Burst is awesome for special occasions.) Even with Sage mastered, her spell damage lags behind the hero and Carver. That being said, even classes like Gadabout and Merchant aren't useless.
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Feb 26, 2011 02:22
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Manos del Sino posted:I haven't used much magic. I've been relying on the Staff of Ghent for healing 90% of the time, and most of my brawlers do far more damage with their weapons then my best mage can do with her second best spell (though Magic Burst is awesome for special occasions.) Even with Sage mastered, her spell damage lags behind the hero and Carver. This is why I made Ashlynn an Armamentalist; Kafrizzle is totally worth the effort.
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Feb 26, 2011 02:23
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Now I remember what pissed me off so much about DWII: "run away" only worked about 1 out of a hundred loving times. 
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Feb 26, 2011 02:50
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Terpfen posted:Finally got my copy of DQ6 from the Amazon gold box sale. Picked up a copy of Lufia: Curse of the Sinistrals. Absolutely LOVED Lufia 1 and 2 in my younger days. There shall be much gaming this weekend. As a fellow fan of Lufia 1 and 2 may I say: I hope you like it a lot more than I did.  I'm slowly trudging through the game and being a 'ghost' while going to the casino is the biggest tease ever! 
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Feb 26, 2011 03:17
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LooseChanj posted:Now I remember what pissed me off so much about DWII: "run away" only worked about 1 out of a hundred loving times. We're all going to make fun of you for ever using the run away command. Actually though, I have tried to use it from time to time and it's been pretty bad in almost every DQ game, including when I tried to use it when I accidentally wandered into somewhere high level in VI yesterday. I like that though, it means that your party is potentially in danger if you screw up.
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Feb 26, 2011 03:24
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Adam Bowen posted:We're all going to make fun of you for ever using the run away command. Actually though, I have tried to use it from time to time and it's been pretty bad in almost every DQ game, including when I tried to use it when I accidentally wandered into somewhere high level in VI yesterday. I like that though, it means that your party is potentially in danger if you screw up. I'm more proud than I really should be that I never ran from a fight in DQ9. I think it resulted in some kind of achievement because whenever Stella isn't gibbering about some random accomplishment I just attained, she talks about my never running from a fight. I just fired up DQ9 to check and she says, "I know you'd rather be beaten than beat a retreat, but I never thought you'd get away with not escaping once. Stellar!" I tried doing the same in DQ6 but it didn't last long. I had to run from some fights in Murdaw's castle before my first (failed) attempt against him in order to conserve what precious little MP I had left. If only I'd known at the time that Ghent's Staff acts as a free Midheal and that your party is fully healed before the Murdaw fight.
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Feb 26, 2011 04:03
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Yeah, I've run a few times in DQ6. Most particularly from those mud monsters in Murdaw's castle who spawn in groups of three or four and love to spam Whack. Really, a frequently-appearing monster that spawns in large numbers and casts a relatively effective instant death spell is just plain mean. They made me suffer my first total party kill in a Dragon Quest game in a long time.
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Feb 26, 2011 04:53
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I had more problems with the Arghgoyles since they spam Sizzle. A monster that does 30-40 HP damage to everyone per turn that early in the game is seriously a dick move, especially since it's possible to run into fights with two Arghgoyles plus other monsters.
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Feb 26, 2011 05:27
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Having a dancer with Fuddle Dance or casting Fuddle/Fizzle is really nice. I guess the debuffs are all really cool. If you use them, then you won't have a problem against almost anything. After I understood that and using items, my enjoyment of DQ went up immensely.  Though that doesn't really matter in DQ6 until after Murdaw. Currently I'm trying to decide what poo poo is worth buying in Despairia and Greedmore since I'm poor as gently caress.
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Feb 26, 2011 06:07
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Johnny Longtorso posted:The problem early on seems to be that none of the monsters drop any significant amount of money. I got the Prince (despite the name being randomized, he's always named Orfeo every time I play this game), got the silver key and made it through the cave down to Hamlin, and I'm still struggling to buy equipment. The lack of money is offset by there being so little to buy. The Prince of Cannock's best weapon is the iron spear, which is available in the town right after you recruit him. The Princess's best weapon is a guaranteed drop from a monster in the dungeon of Midenhall. Armor is pretty easy to come by and you can hand down Midenhall's gear to Cannock as you acquire Erdrick's equipment.
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Feb 26, 2011 06:31
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spacebard posted:Currently I'm trying to decide what poo poo is worth buying in Despairia and Greedmore since I'm poor as gently caress. There's some really great items available in the last few towns/dungeons you need to explore, so hold off on big purchases until you raid the final dungeon. Just bank your meager coin for now. Draile posted:The Prince of Cannock's best weapon is the iron spear His best weapon is the Falcon Sword. 
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Feb 26, 2011 06:45
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Captain Vittles posted:His best weapon is the Falcon Sword. But his strength is so bad that he doesn't do any damage with it. Although I guess he doesn't do any damage with the iron spear, either.
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Draile posted:But his strength is so bad that he doesn't do any damage with it. Although I guess he doesn't do any damage with the iron spear, either. Yeah, I prefer the Falcon Sword for a double chance at a critical hit.
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Feb 26, 2011 06:50
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Life-long Dragon Warrior fan here, needing advice on which to play first: DQ6 DS or DQ9. Played about an hour of each, but have never finished either. Love 1-5, though, with graduating levels of love with each progressive title. Can't do DQ7 or 8 at work, but have those planned as well. So, back to the DS titles, which should I do first, is 9 that much better than 6 that I should definitely do it first, or would doing 6 first be better?
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I've been on a DQ kick since I picked up DQVI last week, and it made me curious about whatever happened with DQ Monsters Joker 2, whether or not it was getting released over here. Since it's been at least a year since it came out in Japan I figured we're pretty much never getting it, but I just learned that Japan's getting some special edition of the game called Joker 2 Professional, and holy poo poo. They're adding a veritable assload of DQ9 monsters to the game, as well as some new areas apparently, and it just looks spectacular! Here's the trailer, I guess be warned that it shows off a few DQ9 bosses, including the final one. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll release this version over here? It's probably a bit too late in the DS's lifespan but I can hope, right?
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ParagonParadox27 posted:Life-long Dragon Warrior fan here, needing advice on which to play first: DQ6 DS or DQ9. I love both games so I'm going to recommend starting IX first just to open the daily shopping feature so you can start collecting gear that much sooner. I'm a whore for loot. If you're not a whore for loot, play VI first. It's a great game, but a bit less substantial and bit more dated.
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ParagonParadox27 posted:Life-long Dragon Warrior fan here, needing advice on which to play first: DQ6 DS or DQ9. Played about an hour of each, but have never finished either. Love 1-5, though, with graduating levels of love with each progressive title. Can't do DQ7 or 8 at work, but have those planned as well. So, back to the DS titles, which should I do first, is 9 that much better than 6 that I should definitely do it first, or would doing 6 first be better? 9 is a more polished version of 6. 6 feels like a step back in quality for me, especially as I just got off playing 9. They really should've done more with 6, but oh well. I'd play 6 first.
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when it was released 6 was amazing because it was a huge leap over 4 and 5 in graphic, music, and gameplay quality, now that it's rereleased, it's gameplay isn't all that much better then the 4 or 5 remakes and the music and graphic quality are basically the same. Still a good game though in my opinion. Edit: I guess what I'm saying is that 4 and 5 felt like actual remakes whereas 6 was just a graphical face lift more or less. Also 9 owns.
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Mister Roboto posted:9 is a more polished version of 6. 6 feels like a step back in quality for me, especially as I just got off playing 9. I’d say 9 is a more polished version of 3, while 8 is a more polished version of 6.
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Blaine the Train posted:I've been on a DQ kick since I picked up DQVI last week, and it made me curious about whatever happened with DQ Monsters Joker 2, whether or not it was getting released over here. Since it's been at least a year since it came out in Japan I figured we're pretty much never getting it, but I just learned that Japan's getting some special edition of the game called Joker 2 Professional, and holy poo poo. They're adding a veritable assload of DQ9 monsters to the game, as well as some new areas apparently, and it just looks spectacular! Here's the trailer, I guess be warned that it shows off a few DQ9 bosses, including the final one. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll release this version over here? It's probably a bit too late in the DS's lifespan but I can hope, right?  Did I just see KING Liquid Metal Slime at 3:45??Is this new or am I just seeing it for the first time? I've always wished but i've never seen.
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Draile posted:The lack of money is offset by there being so little to buy. The Prince of Cannock's best weapon is the iron spear, which is available in the town right after you recruit him. The Princess's best weapon is a guaranteed drop from a monster in the dungeon of Midenhall. Armor is pretty easy to come by and you can hand down Midenhall's gear to Cannock as you acquire Erdrick's equipment. Yeah, I've played some more (got the Princess, ship and Erdrick's Shield, whee) and I'm getting to the point where there's only a couple more things worth buying. It's more starting out at the very beginning that's rough.
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I plan on importing DQM Joker 2 Professional when it comes out, so I'll definitely post about it. I liked DQM Joker specifically because I love grinding and having the Dragonlord and Zoma in your part is just awesome. EDIT: Okay, watching that video it looks like they brought in a whole bunch of poo poo that's new, like Rocket Slime stuff and new skills and new monsters that I've never seen before. Arcaeris fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Feb 26, 2011 |
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Adam Bowen posted:Actually though, I have tried to use it from time to time and it's been pretty bad in almost every DQ game I swear to god that the lower your party's stats get, the less your chance of successfully avoiding a battle become.
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The other two things that make DW2 irritating as gently caress: 1. Townies who block thoroughfares and make you wait until the right combination of the moon and stars before they get out of your way. 2. The hard inventory limit.
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Feb 26, 2011 22:24
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LooseChanj posted:The other two things that make DW2 irritating as gently caress: You could level those claims against a multitude of NES and SNES RPGs, and possibly even a few games from the more recent console eras.
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Captain Vittles posted:You could level those claims against a multitude of NES and SNES RPGs, and possibly even a few games from the more recent console eras. #1 got a lot better in DW3, and was virtually eliminated in 4+. #2 was greatly helped by having 4 party members and the vault then sack in later games.
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DQ2 Progress Update--I've got the Prince (Artho for me) and am working on recovering the item to turn a dog into a Princess. This game is grindy as gently caress, but to be honest that doesn't bother me so much. There are a couple of reasons. First, I grew up playing Dragon Warrior games on Nintendo, so it seems normal to me. One of my proudest moments was waking up early one day, popping in Dragon Warrior, and managing to beat the last boss before I had to head out for school. Second, when I play these games now, I am kind of looking for something monotonous and low-involvement. I am often listening to music when I play RPGs, so I don't mind if it's kind of repetitive because I am just trying to kind myself mildly occupied while I focus on something else. I can kind of see why this game might get hate, though--it seems like the simplicity of DQ1 without the greater complexity and in-depth storylines you get by the time DQ4 rolls around.
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Captain Vittles posted:You could level those claims against a multitude of NES and SNES RPGs, and possibly even a few games from the more recent console eras. The inventory limit in DW2 was especially bad because there was no item storage. You only had your three characters' inventories and they quickly got clogged with non-discardable plot items.
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Draile posted:The inventory limit in DW2 was especially bad because there was no item storage. You only had your three characters' inventories and they quickly got clogged with non-discardable plot items. Yeah, this is true. I only have the hero and prince, but the hero is already dedicated to three equipment slots, plus the Silver Key and Golden Card.
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Yeah, I forgot about the multitude of keys and crests and McGuffins that clogged things up for most of the game. I remember always breathing a sigh of relief when someone would learn Antidote, Numboff or Return, as it meant I no longer had to drag along the associated items.
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Regarding DQVI: Should I avoid going to the Dread Realm for as long as possible? My first foray there ended with me getting stuck and unable to find a path back to the real world, then eventually succumbing to a frighturn as my 1HP and reduced strength failed to save my life. Also, that series of battles starting with the citadel and culminating in the fiend Durham was pretty awesome. I felt like a champ after running through them with little struggle, only to be deflated upon reaching Despairville.
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Manos del Sino posted:Should I avoid going to the Dread Realm for as long as possible? My first foray there ended with me getting stuck and unable to find a path back to the real world, then eventually succumbing to a frighturn as my 1HP and reduced strength failed to save my life. No matter when you go, you'll still have to endure the weakening and no-way-home, so you might as well get it over with ASAP. The Thief skill Padfoot will help you avoid fights; for the fights you can't avoid, either run or use items like the Sunderbolt Blade and Staff of Ghent, as they won't be affected by your cruddy stats. There is a way out of the Dread Realm, and you'll need to find it to lift the debilitating curse; ask around in Desparia, but don't look in pots or talk to demons.
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So, grind-time it is. I just fought my way to Mortamor. The bastard killed my primary healer in the first round. The rest of A-squad doesn't survive the next two rounds as a result, so the second string came in and barely managed to kill the son of a bitch, with about 13 HP remaining spread between three characters. And then Mortamor laughs at me, assumes his crinos form and punishes me for daring to take a breath.
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I played a little Dragon Quest IX, but got preoccupied with other games and didn't get too far. The little bit I did see, though, I loved. I said it in the DQIX thread, but it reminds me of Earthbound with the humor and gameplay, and I've been looking for a game like that for a long time. So anyway, I just got the V and VI remakes for my birthday (V was a used copy with no case, but from what I hear, not much else is available). Started up V, and I already really enjoy it. I love how they named the spells and abilities, and with V I love how the battle screen has the enemies facing the camera, though I miss being able to see armor ala IX. I have a few questions about the series in general though. -Something about monsters joining your party? This sounds very exciting to me. Is it as good as it sounds, or is it filler content? -On that same note, the Dragon Quest Monster games sound even more exciting to me, for the same reason I love Pokemon. Should I really start that series with the GBC games, or is starting with the DS one (DQM:Joker) fine? -When people talk about Party Chat, are they referring to when I hit the X or Y button? I'm assuming it gets more interesting when I have more party members than some little girl. -What's up with the DQ/DW thing? Is it like Final Fantasy III/VI, where it was a localization thing, or is there more to it? It's pretty unbelievable to me that I've never played a DQ game, especially with how much I like RPG's in general. But better late than never I suppose. Billy Black fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Feb 28, 2011 |
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