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quadratic posted:BBC 1718: Talking about the first shot by a French aircraft on a Libyan military vehicle, French defence ministry spokesman Laurent Teisseire told reporters: "A first target was engaged and destroyed." An armed forces spokesman told the same briefing the operation to halt Colonel Gaddafi's advance on rebel forces involved around 20 planes and an area 100 km by 150 km (60 by 100 miles) around the eastern rebel stronghold of Benghazi. France's Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier will leave France for Libya on Sunday, the spokesman added. A central command centre for the operation was still being set up. What more can I say but, 'At last'.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:FreeRepublic is... on the job! I wonder what Freepers think of the prominent French role. I know they can't be fond of anyone stealing the U.S.'s thunder in a conflict.
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Thomase posted:Can we pick one way of spelling gaddafi's name and stick to it? It's an Arabic name and there isn't really any official romanticized interpretation of it. Qadafi, Khadafi, Gadaffi, the list goes on. At least in this context everyone knows what they all refer to. It's generally Gaddafi these days.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:FreeRepublic is... on the job!
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:FreeRepublic is... on the job! Thomase posted:Can we pick one way of spelling gaddafi's name and stick to it? beer_war posted:Ahahaha holy poo poo New Division posted:I wonder what Freepers think of the prominent French role. Vir fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Mar 19, 2011 |
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Latest from Guardian:quote:Misrata residents have said that government snipers are shooting people from rooftops and the hospital can not operate on the wounded because it has no anaesthetic. quote:The Guardian has been sent videos of fighting in Misrata, purportedly showing the bombing of civilian targets by pro-Gaddafi forces on Friday. quote:French Mirage and Rafale fighters are flying over Benghazi and could strike at Gaddafi's tanks, AP quotes an official from Sarkozy's government as saying. quote:Reuters has more on the build-up of Western forces that could be involved in military action to enforce the UN resolution. quote:The French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle is being moved to international waters off the coast of Libya, according to Le Monde. It will leave the French port of Toulon on Sunday and will be in place within 48 hours.
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Just thinking out loud here. Is this a situation where cutting off the head of the snake would kill it? Or would everything continue on as it is with Gadaffy dead? I am wondering if a lot of bloodshed could be avoided if we cut to the chase. Another part of me wonders how this is being reported to North Koreans.
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New Division posted:I wonder what Freepers think of the prominent French role. More proof Obama is trying to destroy America from the inside. Al Jazeera just reported on its live blog Spain has dedicated fights to the UN mandate and France is sending its Charles de Gaul carrier to match up with our Enterprise. If wikipedia is to be trusted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_no-fly_zone#Enforcement Fighters from at least: -France -Britain -United States -Belgium -Greece -Qatar -United Arab Emirates -Denmark -Italy -Norway -Possibly Sweden, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Netherlands might wind up taking part soon enough. Look alive people, not only is Libya in the middle of civil war by this point, but this is probably the only time in the next two decades you'll see the UN actually use teeth with one of its mandates.
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redscare posted:I like how they make it sound like France has more than one carrier. Just one fixed wing carrier, but with a bit of stretch in definitions you may count the Mistral class amphibious assault ships, one of which has already been operating in Libyan waters to evacuate civilians. They can carry up to 35 helicopters.
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# ? Mar 19, 2011 18:43 |
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Vir posted:Wouldn't they like Sarkozy? He's from the conservative side, right? The American far-right despises the French. And while Sarkozy may be a conservative by French political standards he's to the left of most American Democrats.
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Shageletic posted:Is that... rust?
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# ? Mar 19, 2011 18:45 |
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Cartouche posted:Is that... rust? Don't get picky now.
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redscare posted:I like how they make it sound like France has more than one carrier. : "Ah-haw-haw, we knew we were going to use this one day." (In my mind, all French men sound like Maurice Chevalier to me )
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Cartouche posted:Another part of me wonders how this is being reported to North Koreans. South Korea was 'reporting' it by flying over and dropping leaflets. Not sure whether that's still ongoing. As for North Korea's own government letting its citizens get the slightest whiff of this news... not happening.
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New Division posted:The American far-right despises the French. And while Sarkozy may be a conservative by French political standards he's to the left of most American Democrats. <---American conservative who likes Sarkozy. Most of my conservative friends do as well. I've personally come to like him and Cameron quite a bit more since they've been chomping at the bit to do something in Libya while our own government has been very slow off the mark. (admittedly I'm not "far right")
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quote:French aircraft have destroyed four Libyan tanks in air strikes to the south-west of Benghazi, Al-Jazeera television has reported.
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^ beaten like those tanksBBC posted:1748: French aircraft have destroyed four Libyan tanks in air strikes to the south-west of Benghazi, Al-Jazeera television has reported
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# ? Mar 19, 2011 18:49 |
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Oh hey, there's a war on.
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# ? Mar 19, 2011 18:50 |
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I hope some footage of this emerges GIVE ME WAR PORN
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In Iranian tech news, Iran puts skill points into Deep Packet Inspection quote:LONDON, March 18 (UPI) -- Iran appears to have developed a system for identifying computer users on a network designed to block surveillance, a member of the Tor Project says.
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# ? Mar 19, 2011 18:54 |
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Wow, here I woke up two days ago and thought nothing would be done. No doubt it's over for 'Dhaffy very soon, but let's hope this can be resolved with minimal bloodshed.
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# ? Mar 19, 2011 18:55 |
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poo poo, is this the first time Eurofighters have actually gone operational?
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Slave posted:I hope some footage of this emerges
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# ? Mar 19, 2011 18:58 |
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goatface posted:poo poo, is this the first time Eurofighters have actually gone operational? France uses its own fighter designs, but once the UK gets involved we should see the Eurofighter.
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New Division posted:I wonder what Freepers think of the prominent French role. I know they can't be fond of anyone stealing the U.S.'s thunder in a conflict. I think Freepers nowadays will always err of the side of hating the president. Also Freepers don't really "think", so don't bother wondering.
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Yaos posted:In a few years there will be Call Of Duty 10: Revolution. The middle level will involve the Libyan military entering Benghazi, you get shot in the leg and you're alone. As the tanks and trucks come up on you they explode in a huge fireball as jets streak past 100 feet above the ground. The last level will involve a fight with Gadaffi in his mech suit on his armored blimp. Won't sell because no one would want to voluntarily pay to experience the first part, where you're facing AA guns unarmed. Although, an office chair gunride level would be sweet.
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goatface posted:poo poo, is this the first time Eurofighters have actually gone operational?
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# ? Mar 19, 2011 19:07 |
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France has been trying to market the Dassault Rafale for export, so this isn't just a war for France... it's a sales demonstration!
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Yeah, but the News are talking about UK Eurofighters rebasing to med fields.
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Cartouche posted:Just thinking out loud here. You think that us assassinating a sovereign leader would help things in an already hostile environment? I mean yea I guess it'd do some major damage to this one specific problem but 'the snake' is more complex then 'bad man do bad things', and yea any way we 'cut the head off' would look very, very, bad to not only many Libyans, but to the region and the world itself.
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# ? Mar 19, 2011 19:13 |
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You'd also have to find out where he is. The US never managed to kill Saddam with an airstrike despite numerous attempts
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New Division posted:France has been trying to market the Dassault Rafale for export, so this isn't just a war for France... it's a sales demonstration! I bet the US is pretty pissed that they don't have working F-35s yet while France and EADS are having such nice sales shows. Guess who'll be offering discounts on F15 and F16 planes soon?
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And as the UN has only sanctioned intervention in defence of civilians, you'd have to be drat confident nobody is going to call "war crimes".
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# ? Mar 19, 2011 19:17 |
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goatface posted:Yeah, but the News are talking about UK Eurofighters rebasing to med fields. Italy, Spain and Saudi Arabia, as mentioned above, also have Eurofighters. feedmegin fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Mar 19, 2011 |
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IM_DA_DECIDER posted:I bet the US is pretty pissed that they don't have working F-35s yet while France and EADS are having such nice sales shows. Guess who'll be offering discounts on F15 and F16 planes soon? I get the impression the F-35 will be like those glitchy devices that are neat but most of the learning will be on how NOT to screw it up. How reliable are Eurofighters? edit: Eurofighters look to be pretty reliable
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# ? Mar 19, 2011 19:22 |
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So wait, If American air fighters begin fighting, Is there a possibility of some dogfights happening?
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# ? Mar 19, 2011 19:23 |
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Imapanda posted:So wait, If American air fighters begin fighting, Is there a possibility of some dogfights happening? If you define dogfights as "ancient Libyan jets being blown out of the sky with Air-to-Air missiles before they know there are other planes in the area", then yes.
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# ? Mar 19, 2011 19:24 |
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Yaos posted:In a few years there will be Call Of Duty 10: Revolution. The middle level will involve the Libyan military entering Benghazi, you get shot in the leg and you're alone. As the tanks and trucks come up on you they explode in a huge fireball as jets streak past 100 feet above the ground. The last level will involve a fight with Gadaffi in his mech suit on his armored blimp. All in slow motion whilst a subtle guitar riff plays after the flash dissipates. "TARGET NEUTRALIZED!"
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Slantedfloors posted:If you define dogfights as "ancient Libyan jets being blown out of the sky with Air-to-Air missiles before they know there are other planes in the area", then yes. Quite so. And, uh, why would American fighters getting involved make dogfights more likely? Unless you think Obama really is a secret Muslim who'll fight on Ghaddafi's side... Edit: my point is French planes are in the air already. If there are going to be dogfights then there are going to be dogfights regardless if other nations' planes join them or not. feedmegin fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Mar 19, 2011 |
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Libya has planes, not current generation planes, largely non-operational planes, but planes none-the-less. In theory there could be dogfights. In practice, any Libyan pilot going up against one of the intervening air forces has a death wish.
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