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Option B. Get the interference out of subtler plans, whilst keeping the strategic insight as and when you need it. Don't burn bridges that you may need to retreat across, in the event that the road ahead is a one-way ticket to crazy interferenceville.
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Option B. No need to be completely rash with a potentially useful future tool, after all. Can't undo death.
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Mar 22, 2011 11:33
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Hob_Gadling posted:So... did the Colonel's son make it or not? MVPs for Engine Joe and Zhukov tank respectively. Curious about this too - there's a bet to settle! If it's down to odds based on the number of non-combatants killed it's only a 25% chance he lived, but if he was low on the list being so important he might still be okay! Anyway, political vote I say Option A. Things will become a whole lot more messy in the Confederation with a dead Chancellor, and I'm curious at the opportunities for blowback. Can I say that the whole hostage situation scenario, while a clever and well-run scenario, was also pretty gruelling? I mean it sounds like it was pretty gruelling to run and participate in, but also to read. There's something painfully disheartening about watching a hostage counter tick down, especially when it's governed by chance and is the one apparent exception to claims of "protagonist luck". Still a really great fight with an exciting outcome, and gripping 'till the end, but hopefully our next few fights will be a little more glorious and a little less tragic.
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Mar 22, 2011 12:31
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Option A, this story obviously need more murder 
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Mar 22, 2011 12:33
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Voting Option B, because having an institutionalized, drugged-to-the-gills Max sign off on all your plans puts a valuable layer of insulation between you and any future fuckups.
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Mar 22, 2011 14:18
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Mar 22, 2011 14:42
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Goddamnit I always confuse timelines and this alternate universe. So Justin is on the CC's side for realz this time or? Argh, my head hurts!
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Mar 22, 2011 14:46
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Dolash posted:Curious about this too - there's a bet to settle! If it's down to odds based on the number of non-combatants killed it's only a 25% chance he lived, but if he was low on the list being so important he might still be okay! Scenario says he'd be the last hostage killed, period. We still have other live hostages.
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Mar 22, 2011 14:55
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I think Option B is the most politically interesting.
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Mar 22, 2011 15:20
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B is too close to "reality" so I vote for Option A: hillarious murder.
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Mar 22, 2011 15:44
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Small question: Is the Capellan political system such that overwhelming proof of the emperor's unsound mind can actually dethrone him? I can't remember, but without an emphatic yes I can't vote for B. Neither can I vote for A for many of the reasons already mentioned against the option. The only other worthwhile option is E, but it's actually a pretty good option (if Justin survives). The best outcome is a Max and a Justin working together. Justin's got a sharp mind and, while batshit, Max has his moments. With greater communication Justin will know when Max's crazy interferes with his plans allowing Justin to mitigate the effects. And when Max's genius appears Justin can add to it. If we choose either A or B we're separating the only two leaders Capella has going for it. We need to keep them together but enhance their cooperation. All three options have the possibility of death/failure for Justin, but certainly having ole Max around better than a defunct Romano (seriously what good has she ever done?) even if she is merely a puppet of Justin. E plus Engine Joe and the Zuchov. Engine Joe inspired and galvanized the Caballeros beyond the motivation already present. The fan content evidences this claim. The Zuchov not only did the most damage, the most consistent damage, and in the most crucial areas but garners pride and respect for the unsung heroes of mech combat: vehicles. Without the Zuchov the wee ones would still be viewing tanks as the fragile, understrength battle implements that the first battle made them appear to be.
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Mar 22, 2011 15:58
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Choice B is the best one - it leaves Justin with leverage on both members of the house, and that's a good position to be in.
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Mar 22, 2011 16:08
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I'm going to have to vote for Option A If Max is already interfering because he feels left out, shoving him into a closet politically is only going to make him madder. He'll still have friends out there, and then it'll be Justin who has to watch out for the backstab. Better to just strike first, and strike decisively.
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Mar 22, 2011 16:09
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Option A. Don't leave potential danger lying around, put it out of your misery. Also, we desperately need more assassinations and instability in the Liao realm, because that little sliver of green at the bottom of the map always annoyed me to no end.
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Mar 22, 2011 16:17
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Going with Option B
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Mar 22, 2011 16:29
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Right now the results stand as follows: A: 21 B: 22 E: 4 The answer is obviously 'do both.' Do something fatal to him in his retirement. This is why the Clans are awesome. If the CC was a clan we could just stick him in a Solahma Unit. KnoxZone fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Mar 22, 2011 |
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Mar 22, 2011 17:17
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Lets go with A.
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Mar 22, 2011 17:19
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A with a side order of contingency plans: Get Romano pregnant ASAP, so that if she ends up being uncontrollable, he can arrange an 'accident' and reign as Regent until his child is of age. Given that Justin owns the Maskirova, that shouldn't be too hard to arrange.
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Mar 22, 2011 17:45
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go with A The capellans prefer their leaders to be crazy like a fox not crazy like a random lunatic, Once Max's instability has been eliminated the Capellan state can march on to glory under Sun Tzu Xiang-Liao (obviously after romano has an unfortunate accident leaning over the baby crib)
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Mar 22, 2011 17:49
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Oh man, what a choice. B seems more pragmatic, but A seems like a better chance to set up some Shakespearean drama, as I imagine there are enough things in place to make Justin regret that choice. However, that is more personal than political drama, and B is likely enough to result in more intrigue, somehow. At any rate, it doesn't feel like Justin seems committed to Romano's ambitions just yet, and B looks like it could play out in any number of interesting ways. So I'll vote for it.
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KaoliniteMilkshake posted:However, that is more personal than political drama, and B is likely enough to result in more intrigue, somehow. Personal drama is what drives the backstory in Battletech anyway - Justin taking over the Confederation for the sole purpose of revenge on Hanse Davion is right in line with that. Also Justin Xiang is loving awesome. 
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Mar 22, 2011 18:01
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There are entirely to many people voting for B, and far too few voting E. Since I'd rather see Maximillian Liao dead (with a side order of Justin dead when Romano kills him/people loyal to Max kill him/dead during the assassination,) than old Max put up in the nuthouse, I am changing my vote to A, lest cooler heads prevail. ShadowDragon8685 fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Mar 22, 2011 |
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Mar 22, 2011 18:16
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Kenlon posted:Personal drama is what drives the backstory in Battletech anyway - Justin taking over the Confederation for the sole purpose of revenge on Hanse Davion is right in line with that. I've only read one third of the first book, but isn't Justin a deep undercover spy? What's different in this alternate universe?
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Affi posted:I've only read one third of the first book, but isn't Justin a deep undercover spy? What's different in this alternate universe? He went off the deep end and genuinely went Capellan. You know that whole thing about "gaze too long into the Abyss and the Abyss gazes back?" In this case, it's "spend too much time in Imperial Space China and become authentic Imperial Space Chinese."
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^^^^^^^^^ I thought it was ambigious whether he was one or not Affi posted:I've only read one third of the first book, but isn't Justin a deep undercover spy? What's different in this alternate universe? no candice this time, so no real reason to be a double agent, we have no idea if he is. Axe-man fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Mar 22, 2011 |
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Gothsheep posted:Mmm...Option A. If you're going to strike, strike decisively. A Maximilian with a wounded reputation can strike you again later. A Maximilian who is killed will remain killed. Depends on what the situation actually is. Am I the only one who suspects Romano was the one who switched the orders, not Maximilian? What better way to get Justin to give in and give her what she wants? Since there's no F option (confirm independently that Maximilian was responsible before acting), I vote B on the grounds that it puts Justin in a stronger position and leaves him a possible ally against Romano in the future.
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Affi posted:I've only read one third of the first book, but isn't Justin a deep undercover spy? What's different in this alternate universe? He totally still is. His objective is to secure the throne for Romano so that the marriage between Hanse Davion and Romano Liao will create a super-state that will take over the entire IS. The Federated Confederation will emerge victorious!
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Given the context of what's been happening in this thread hilarious death is clearly what's needed here and B is far too reasonable. Voting A.
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I'm going with B, keeps options open. After all you can't put a dead person back on the throne if it turns out Romano was lying her rear end off.
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I'm voting option B. It's obvious that Maxi Liao has been senile since he was 20. Also, Romano is senile too. Also, anyone who disagrees with the first two statements is senile. Good thing Justin is here to get all these senile people out of power. Thank gods for that.
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KnoxZone posted:He totally still is. His objective is to secure the throne for Romano so that the marriage between Hanse Davion and Romano Liao will create a super-state that will take over the entire IS. The Federated Confederation will emerge victorious! I would like to state for the record that I completely endorse and half suspect this is the case. And the Federated Confederation is just way too awesome a name to not use. Maybe at the wedding Duke Hasek's mutilated body can be worked into the decorations? 
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KnoxZone posted:He totally still is. His objective is to secure the throne for Romano so that the marriage between Hanse Davion and Romano Liao will create a super-state that will take over the entire IS. The Federated Confederation will emerge victorious! No way. He's too busy hitting that himself. The crazy ones are the best in bed, y'know. Justin doesn't strike me as the kind of character to share, not with for a cool cat like the Fox..... Oh gods. Now I've got the image in my head of a batshit-crazy, leather-and-lace 'clad' Romano Liao being spitroasted by Hanse taking the rear shot and Justin taking repeated head shots with his metal arm clenching her hair. 
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I'll go with Option A. Hilarious carnage is good for reading. Plus the irony of Space Chinese Children murdering their folks after the Space Chinese murdered the Space Mexicano families is very nice.
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Mar 22, 2011 19:16
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PTN? Please update. This will only go worse from here.
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Tempest_56 posted:PTN? I Second.  edit: Maybe if we're lucky we can get a Capellan Civil War going thanks to our actions! 
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I can't imagine that actually, it's like a blank spot, like a canoe next to a street lamp in london. If you don't kill max's clone in A, then we get a more awesome civil war where his clone stuck in an insane asylum is used by the houses to open a 3rd front
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Mukaikubo posted:edit: Maybe if we're lucky we can get a Capellan Civil War going thanks to our actions! I know, right? That would definitely further the agenda of the Fox. 
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This galactic clusterfuck is brought to you by the letter B.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Scenario says he'd be the last hostage killed, period. We still have other live hostages. Well, that settles it then! Hob, you owe me one account upgrade! I don't actually know how that works, to be honest, I assumed it was Gift Cert? Archives or plat would be nice. You may have bet on the wrong horse, but take comfort in the heap of dead mexican children the Death Commandoes nevertheless managed to produce.
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