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I was a freshman in high school and was SO excited for Raw/Nitro that night.
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I was in my first year of university, deciding that I didn't want to ever do math again in my life. I hadn't regularly watched wrestling in about a year when I heard about the sale.
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Mar 27, 2011 01:07
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For the record, that Heenan picture is from '08 or '09. Sure, it's not pretty, but let's not write his epitaph yet, either; it didn't beat him then, and now the cancer's in remission if I'm remembering correctly and the jaw infection is gone, too. He's still alive and kicking.
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Mar 27, 2011 02:37
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tzirean posted:For the record, that Heenan picture is from '08 or '09. Sure, it's not pretty, but let's not write his epitaph yet, either; it didn't beat him then, and now the cancer's in remission if I'm remembering correctly and the jaw infection is gone, too. He's still alive and kicking. I would be happy to learn that he'd decided to hold on and outlive Hulk Hogan just so he could dance on his grave.
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Mar 27, 2011 02:44
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tzirean posted:For the record, that Heenan picture is from '08 or '09. Sure, it's not pretty, but let's not write his epitaph yet, either; it didn't beat him then, and now the cancer's in remission if I'm remembering correctly and the jaw infection is gone, too. He's still alive and kicking.
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Mar 27, 2011 03:43
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I was about to post something along the lines of "What kind of world do we live in where Bobby Heenan's face is falling apart and Mark Madden hasn't had one heart attack?" Then I read his Wikipedia page. I'm an rear end in a top hat.
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Mar 27, 2011 11:36
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Can someone please tell me if he was at Wrestlemania 26? I don't have the DVD with me at the moment so I can't check for myself. He was backstage with Mean Gene and I believe they implied that they were swinging with Moolah and Mae Young. Or am I thinking of a different Wrestlemania or inserting him in place of someone else? Because he didn't look too bad at all from memory with all things considered, he'd definitely aged quite a bit and lost a lot of weight but he looked nowhere near as bad as in that picture. He truly is one of a kind, an amazing entertainer. Sue Denim fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Mar 27, 2011 |
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Mar 27, 2011 12:53
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Sue Denim posted:Can someone please tell me if he was at Wrestlemania 26? I don't have the DVD with me at the moment so I can't check for myself. It was XX when he and Gene were doing the poo poo with Moolah and Mae, cause Coach was the one who caught them and he was on orders from Eric Bischoff to try and find Undertaker, who was re-debuting that night.
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Mar 27, 2011 13:40
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Sue Denim posted:The WCW 2001 PPV's aren't as bad as you'd think considering the previous year and they're kind of interesting to see because they're heading in a different direction to WCW typically with an abundance of new stars out of the Power Plant who were employed for a couple of months before the buy out. Whenever I see a WCW 2001 PPV's there's faces I'd totally forgotten about that I wonder what's become of. Yeah, by that point WCW had completely rinsed their hands of Russo and were attempting to push some new stars (including a young AJ Styles) and focus on exciting in-ring matches again (at least, that's the impression I got). Who knows what could have happened if AOL Time Warner didn't axe WCW programming and Bischoff's deal actually went through. God, has it really been ten years? I was in the middle of Grade 10 (first year of high school in Alberta) and I remember being shocked when the WWF purchase made the wrestling news sites. I knew WCW was bleeding but I never thought it would have ended up with Vince on Nitro's last broadcast. Then I started getting excited about the very real possibility of a WCW invasion and we all know how that ended up.
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Mar 28, 2011 04:01
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Dr. Video Games 0055 posted:Yeah, by that point WCW had completely rinsed their hands of Russo and were attempting to push some new stars (including a young AJ Styles) and focus on exciting in-ring matches again (at least, that's the impression I got). Not quite. Basically Bischoff retook booking control and was pulling the stars off television for a planned reboot after he finalized his purchase of the company. It wasn't so much that they were pushing, say, Air Raid as that they just needed meaningless bodies to fill the midcard while Scott Steiner put every top guy out of action.
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Mar 28, 2011 04:35
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jeffersonlives posted:Not quite. Basically Bischoff retook booking control and was pulling the stars off television for a planned reboot after he finalized his purchase of the company. It wasn't so much that they were pushing, say, Air Raid as that they just needed meaningless bodies to fill the midcard while Scott Steiner put every top guy out of action.
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Mar 28, 2011 07:55
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LividLiquid posted:I know that sounds retarded but it really worked to elevate guys as it created an environment where the cream would actually rise to the top instead of being booked into the ground. Except they booked every single one of them into the ground once they rose to the top.
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Mar 28, 2011 08:21
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jeffersonlives posted:Except they booked every single one of them into the ground once they rose to the top. WCW: Strange, the only thing that changed between you being a very over midcarder and being a joke in the main event is us taking an interest in booking you. I think it's pretty clear what the problem here is.... you're just not a main event wrestler! Thanks for wasting our time, rear end in a top hat! *pays wrestler six figure salary*
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Mar 28, 2011 08:27
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Dr. Video Games 0055 posted:Yeah, by that point WCW had completely rinsed their hands of Russo and were attempting to push some new stars (including a young AJ Styles) and focus on exciting in-ring matches again (at least, that's the impression I got). Perry Normal posted:It was XX when he and Gene were doing the poo poo with Moolah and Mae, cause Coach was the one who caught them and he was on orders from Eric Bischoff to try and find Undertaker, who was re-debuting that night. That's really odd because I have no recollection of watching XX. Thanks for the information though. It's a bit sad, I thought that the Heenan I saw there was him recovering from the therapy. Although he's starting to look better from a couple of more recent pictures I've seen of him, he seems to be growing some hair back and putting on a bit of weight.
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Mar 28, 2011 09:21
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Sue Denim posted:Was AJ the guy who seemed like the leader and was the mouth piece for the Natural Born Thrillers? Nope, that was "Above Average" Mike Sanders.
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Mar 28, 2011 09:23
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AJ was Air Styles, teaming with Air Paris as Air Raid in the cruiserweight tag team division Bischoff formed to fill time. He was there for the last couple months, mostly on the secondary shows.
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Mar 28, 2011 09:32
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Triple-Kan posted:Nope, that was "Above Average" Mike Sanders. I was watching an old WCW PPV a while ago though and couldn't remember his name and it was really bugging me, so thanks for that. I wonder what would have become of the Natural Born Thrillers of WCW was continued, WCW seemed to really want to push them. It's funny, on the PWR podcast they frequently have to remind people what WCW was, they even had a caller call in the show just to ask what WCW was.
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Mar 28, 2011 10:08
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Sue Denim posted:For some strange reason I wonder what has become of him whenever I see an old WCW show, no idea why I'm curious.
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Mar 28, 2011 10:11
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Dragging Iron Feet posted:Because Mike Sanders owned. HHH disagrees
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Mar 28, 2011 10:17
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Sue Denim posted:Was AJ the guy who seemed like the leader and was the mouth piece for the Natural Born Thrillers? You probably saw it on youtube or something. Either way, good to know Bobby's looking a bit better these days, that picture of him with Bundy (who still look like he did in 1995) was the most recent one that I'd seen.
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Mar 28, 2011 12:39
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AJ Styles was really sloppy in WCW compared to his later work in TNA but I guess he was pretty young at the time too.
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Mar 28, 2011 17:21
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jeffersonlives posted:AJ was Air Styles, teaming with Air Paris as Air Raid in the cruiserweight tag team division Bischoff formed to fill time. He was there for the last couple months, mostly on the secondary shows. WCW 2001 had a lot of random cruiserweight poo poo to fill time and while some of the matches were incredibly sloppy, they were a lot of fun.
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Mar 28, 2011 18:52
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jeffersonlives posted:Except they booked every single one of them into the ground once they rose to the top.
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Mar 29, 2011 00:26
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did nitro get pared back down from 3 hours a week towards the end?
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Mar 29, 2011 00:43
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Monkeycheese posted:did nitro get pared back down from 3 hours a week towards the end? If I remember right it did and that was yet another contributing factor to it being killed off by the network. I think I remember something about them being upset that it was one less hour for them to sell advertisements or something. I could be wrong though. The death spiral of WCW is filled with so much bullshit that it's hard to tell what is truth and what isn't. That and you've got WWE releasing documentaries about it that leave a lot of things out.
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Mar 29, 2011 00:48
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Monkeycheese posted:did nitro get pared back down from 3 hours a week towards the end? Nitro got cut down to 2 hours from the first show of 2000 due to the best efforts of Vince Russo. Russo felt that by cutting down to 2 hours (and thus only having one go up against raw) the average rating would go up thus making it appear that the show was on an upswing. What he didn't take into consideration was that by removing a whole hour of tv, they lost out on an hours worth of advertising.
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Mar 29, 2011 00:49
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Skinty McEdger posted:Nitro got cut down to 2 hours from the first show of 2000 due to the best efforts of Vince Russo. Russo felt that by cutting down to 2 hours (and thus only having one go up against raw) the average rating would go up thus making it appear that the show was on an upswing. What he didn't take into consideration was that by removing a whole hour of tv, they lost out on an hours worth of advertising. And even then, the ratings were in the shitter. I noticed when rereading Death of WCW that one thing nobody ever talks about, including that book and this thread, is Eric Bischoff's complete hatred for tag team wrestling. People rail on WWE for how it treats its tag teams and they're right, but you can still say that Vince is downplaying tag team wrestling. It's to an insane degree, but it's still downplayed. Bischoff completely killed it. No champions or anything. He simply killed the division. He openly admitted in interviews that he thought tag team wrestling was lame and didn't want it to come back at all.
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Mar 29, 2011 01:19
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LividLiquid posted:You cut off the second part of my quote where that's what I said. Well no, you said they didn't pull the trigger on those guys. It was far far far far beyond not just pulling the trigger on guys, they were actively and intentionally burying anyone who got over past their push level, from Chris Jericho to Adam Bomb/Wrath.
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Mar 29, 2011 01:24
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Fair enough. I thought that was implied.
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Mar 29, 2011 01:31
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Gavok posted:And even then, the ratings were in the shitter. Didn't the tag belts stay on the Outsiders for like the entirety of the nWo run?
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Mar 29, 2011 01:38
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They might have had two belts, the US and International and the Heat feuded with the Steiners at the beginning for a while. In fact i'm sure that the Outsiders were tag champs while that was going on.
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Mar 29, 2011 03:28
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Just as far as my childhood memories go, they were tag team champions (or contenders) for loving everrrrr.
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Mar 29, 2011 03:35
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LordPants posted:They might have had two belts, the US and International and the Heat feuded with the Steiners at the beginning for a while. In fact i'm sure that the Outsiders were tag champs while that was going on. There was the World TT and the US TT for awhile in the late 80's/early 90's. Yeah, The Outsiders were champs for a long time, and would hardly ever defend them unless they had nothing else to do, and it would be a 4 minute squash against The Flock or Dancin' Fools. Then they broke up The Steiners and Harlem Heat and replaced them with super teams containing Sting, Giant, Luger, DDP depending on who was a face at the moment.
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Mar 29, 2011 04:32
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I love that Jimmy Hart even now wears his Matthew Lesko-esque crazy jackets and looks completely normal in them.
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Mar 29, 2011 04:35
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M1TCH3LL posted:Dec 2009, to be exact. I love how Baron Von Raschke looks the same as he did 40 years ago.
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Mar 29, 2011 04:36
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who's in between Jimmy and Barron Von Raschke
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Mar 29, 2011 06:08
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The American Dream posted:who's in between Jimmy and Barron Von Raschke Dory Funk?
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Mar 29, 2011 06:19
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M1TCH3LL posted:Dec 2009, to be exact. God drat I forgot how much I loved that Hogan shirt.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:I love that Jimmy Hart even now wears his Matthew Lesko-esque crazy jackets and looks completely normal in them. I think at this point Jimmy Hart looks weirder in normal clothes than he does in a crazy jacket.
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