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babies havin rabies
Feb 24, 2006

If anybody else is having sleeping problems, I quit last Thursday, couldn't sleep Tuesday or Wednesday night, but have slept great the last two nights.

I went to a casino last night oh god the smell

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Swoon
Jun 14, 2008

babies havin rabies posted:

If anybody else is having sleeping problems, I quit last Thursday, couldn't sleep Tuesday or Wednesday night, but have slept great the last two nights.

I went to a casino last night oh god the smell

Yeah I'm three weeks quit and still having a hard time with sleep. Sometimes I sleep like the dead, sometimes I do the horizontal Watusi. I've also been finding myself horrifically exhausted some days (for no apparent reason).

Sucks.

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?
Today is exactly two months of cold turkey goodness. Here's a bonus story:

Last week I was in a bar with a few friends and a conversation came up between me and a girl I was sitting next to. About ten seconds later my friends ask me if I want to go out with them while they smoke, I say no thanks and turn back around.

The girl looks over and tells me she's glad I didn't go out there because smoking is gross and she hates the smell. The rest of the night was me becoming friends with her and her group, all because I stayed inside and talked instead of leaving every 30 minutes for a smoke.

When the others eventually came back inside they really did smell like crap.

Doom Catcher
Sep 11, 2001

Sometimes, I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion!
I'd really like an accountability buddy.

This is attempt 5 or 6 in trying to quit and I am going shitbag insane.

My first REAL quit lasted two years and I honestly thought that I was going to kill someone. I felt like a crackhead and eventually found a way to pretend that I never started smoking again, except I was totally sneaking cigarettes left and right. So yeah, 2 years cig free and another year lying to myself and everyone else while I smoked.

We are trying to get pregnant, so... I want to quit now. I don't want to plan on quitting when I get pregnant only to make up an excuse and not do it. And I know how I am, and I will make excuse after excuse and hate myself later.

So I "quit" Friday. All day yesterday I smoked my other half's nasty rear end camels. Today he bought Marb Ultra Lights, figuring I would try to smoke them and give up. Never underestimate an addict, I'm on my third one.

He is now not smoking around me anymore, and trying to quit himself. I know he will succeed. I will not.

I have no clue what will help me here. I have gone cold turkey. I have tried the patch. I have done wellbutrin. I have the desire to quit, however I am weak as poo poo.

Dr.Smasher
Nov 27, 2002

Cyberpunk 1987

babies havin rabies posted:

If anybody else is having sleeping problems, I quit last Thursday, couldn't sleep Tuesday or Wednesday night, but have slept great the last two nights.

I went to a casino last night oh god the smell

My truck smells horrible inside. I need to clean it out BADLY and get something to get rid of the smell of cigarettes in it.

Shovelmint
Apr 22, 2004
Lipstick Apathy

Doom Catcher posted:

I have no clue what will help me here. I have gone cold turkey. I have tried the patch. I have done wellbutrin. I have the desire to quit, however I am weak as poo poo.

Substitute poo poo for your cravings. Drink beer, eat, and gently caress a lot. You'll become a fat, preggo alcoholic, but you'll get past the worst of the cig cravings. Then don't smoke any more because even one cigarette will invalidate your accomplishments, leaving you a fat, drunken smoker, rather than the bronzed goddess of tobacco-freeness that you've always dreamed of.

spouse
Nov 10, 2008

When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.


I quit again. After three months away, I started again. Then, after about four more months on, I quit for a month. I started again back in February. I was taken to the hospital last week for alcohol poisoning and figured I'd take a break from booze and quit cigarettes at the same time. I almost gave in two nights ago, but I stayed strong. One week as of tuesday.

babies havin rabies
Feb 24, 2006

Alcohol consumption as a habit isn't a great thing to start in general, much less when trying to get pregnant...

Are there specific factors that make you smoke? Try to take a hiatus (drinking) or rationalize that you can still do them without a cigarette (socialize, etc). If you're one of those smokers where most of your daily activities remind you of having a cigarette I don't have any tips as I've never been in that situation.

I don't even get the urge to smoke when I drink anymore, but it only came after a couple sessions of good hardcore resistance to the craving while drinking, which I won't deny is really, really hard. The fact that I don't get hangovers when I don't smoke is a huge added incentive for me.

babies havin rabies fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Mar 28, 2011

BnT
Mar 10, 2006

I keep trying to quit and falling again. I've been smoking for half of my life probably. Last fall I read Carr's book, and managed to not kill anyone for a week before giving in and lighting up again in a stressful moment. A month ago I started running to make quitting easier, I guess. I'm still running a couple miles every day and smoking too, gently caress. On the upside, the drive to quit is stronger than ever.

I want to try one of the two prescription options, but I'd like to avoid changing my personality or emotional outlook too much. Other than smoking, I'm happy with the way I am. Would either of the two (Chantix or Zyban) be better for this? Any nearly side-effect free stories out there?

StrppngYoungLad
Apr 8, 2007
strapping

BnT posted:

I keep trying to quit and falling again. I've been smoking for half of my life probably. Last fall I read Carr's book, and managed to not kill anyone for a week before giving in and lighting up again in a stressful moment. A month ago I started running to make quitting easier, I guess. I'm still running a couple miles every day and smoking too, gently caress. On the upside, the drive to quit is stronger than ever.

I want to try one of the two prescription options, but I'd like to avoid changing my personality or emotional outlook too much. Other than smoking, I'm happy with the way I am. Would either of the two (Chantix or Zyban) be better for this? Any nearly side-effect free stories out there?

I don't know about Chantix but I have tried Wellbutrin(Zyban) for six weeks, not to quit smoking of course but bupropion is bupropion. I'll admit that I was curious about its reputation as a smoking cessation aid so I took a break from smoking while I was on it. It helped with the cravings and I didn't feel the need to smoke *as much* but the need was still there. Also, it changed how smoking a cigarette felt, like it was competing with nicotine.

I stopped taking it at the end of six weeks because it made it extremely hard for me to retain memories and kept me emotionally vacant. YMMV but I experienced "discontinuation syndrome" aka withdrawal from bupropion, which was completely different from nicotine withdrawal but not awful. I cold turkeyed it which may have been a contributing factor, also I was on 100mg instant release 3x daily so if you use an extended release version and taper down your experience may be completely different than mine.

EDIT: On second thought I don't think most doctors use any sort of tapering period for six weeks of Zyban but I could be wrong.

EDIT 2: Yep Google says a Zyban prescription is less of a dose than a Wellbutrin prescription. Maybe it'll have less pronounced side effects at 150mg but they'll likely still be there.

tldr Zyban(bupropion) helped me with nicotine cravings but did not extinguish them and had deletrious side effects. I was incapable of complex thinking and memory formation while on it. I experienced withdrawal comparable in severity to light nicotine withdrawal after only six weeks. Would not recommend.

StrppngYoungLad fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Mar 28, 2011

fatjoint
Sep 28, 2005
Fatjoint
Ok... So I had an episode two weeks ago. I went to my nephew's bachelor party and smoked after drinking. I knew that I would, I knew that once I had started drinking I'd want it.

There is a brighter side to this... I know my trigger and even before I decided to quit smoking I had decided to quit drinking to help end my smoking habit. Since that night, I haven't smoked again and I'm again at the two week mark of being tobacco free, and I was two weeks prior to that - in the last month I had one episode. My brother asked if I wanted to go drinking Friday night, and my reply was "Thanks, but I don't want to smoke."

I chew nicotine gum all the time, but I figure it's better than smoking. I spent $250 on an e-cig and consider it money blown. I personally don't like my e-cig and it's my own damned fault because I didn't investigate it enough.

I'm going to continue using gum and I figure at some point I'll grow tired of it and quit that. I can tell my mouth feels better, like it's actually wet more often now instead of it being dried out, which by the way is the leading factor of bad breath.

Good luck everyone!

Schistosity
May 15, 2009

2 weeks without smoking, and I feel great! My lungs are happy, my clothes smell nicer, and I'm just super proud I quit. Seriously, I never really thought I'd get to this point where I'm not smoking and still don't miss them. I have managed to replace smokes with coffee though. But temporarily I think that's ok.

KingEup
Nov 18, 2004
I am a REAL ADDICT
(to threadshitting)


Please ask me for my google inspired wisdom on shit I know nothing about. Actually, you don't even have to ask.

BnT posted:

I keep trying to quit and falling again.

That's normal. It takes people an average dozen or so attempts before they finally quit for good.

Keep trying.

MobMentality
Aug 22, 2007

I'm Mike Doyle.
I've been toying with smoking at least a couple times a week for the past 6 months. I quit 4 years ago and I really do not want to fall back into that hole. The problem is, the smoking picked up when I quit dipping so I'm kind of just hosed all around. Welp, throwing in my hat anyway to see if I can't beat it before I'm 24.

Davfff
Oct 27, 2008
1 week so far after 5ish years on and off (mostly on) and doing OK. Someone mentioned that thinking about caving after X amount of days, weeks, months, for only 5 minutes of enjoyment followed by a whole heap of feeling crap was enough to get me through some tough times.

A colleague of mine dumped smoking cold turkey after a decade and didn't look back once, setting him as a yard stick to compare myself against has helped as well (I.E I'm just as good as him!).

The first few days weren't hard at all, but the last couple of days have been tough and things seem to be getting tougher.

Certainly have had a few nights where sleeping was difficult, and yet, had nights were I'm out like a light when my head hits the pillow (which is not common for me).

I think re-wiring myself away from focusing on the positives of smoking, and onto how much I enjoy the positives of not smoking, I'll be A-OK.

Adjectivist Philosophy
Oct 6, 2003

When you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.

Davfff posted:

1 week so far after 5ish years on and off (mostly on) and doing OK. Someone mentioned that thinking about caving after X amount of days, weeks, months, for only 5 minutes of enjoyment followed by a whole heap of feeling crap was enough to get me through some tough times.

A colleague of mine dumped smoking cold turkey after a decade and didn't look back once, setting him as a yard stick to compare myself against has helped as well (I.E I'm just as good as him!).

The first few days weren't hard at all, but the last couple of days have been tough and things seem to be getting tougher.

Certainly have had a few nights where sleeping was difficult, and yet, had nights were I'm out like a light when my head hits the pillow (which is not common for me).

I think re-wiring myself away from focusing on the positives of smoking, and onto how much I enjoy the positives of not smoking, I'll be A-OK.

Once the crazy physical stuff is over can be the hardest, because then you're going up against your own mind. But luckily your mind is what can get you out of it. Writing out your reasons for quitting is helpful because you can set down in concrete terms why you quit. Looking up the health benefits and stuff helps as well since it gets you in the mindset of "this is bad" in a general way, and if you let that color your perception of cravings instead of thinking "this is something enjoyable that I miss" it becomes much easier to realize what a dummy you are for thinking you should just have that smoke.

Toucan Sam
Sep 2, 2000

fatjoint posted:

There is a brighter side to this... I know my trigger and even before I decided to quit smoking I had decided to quit drinking to help end my smoking habit. Since that night, I haven't smoked again and I'm again at the two week mark of being tobacco free, and I was two weeks prior to that - in the last month I had one episode. My brother asked if I wanted to go drinking Friday night, and my reply was "Thanks, but I don't want to smoke."

Nothing wrong with that at all. Luckily the bars here are all non smoking so it means less temptation. I had to quit taking breaks at work since that was my favorite smoking time. I haven't taken a break at work in a year and a half. I also had to quit packing my lunches so honestly not smoking is more expensive for me now. I used to pack a healthy lunch and eat in my car where i smoked after i ate to pass the time. I'm going to give packing lunch a try again when it's warmer.

Doom Catcher
Sep 11, 2001

Sometimes, I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion!

babies havin rabies posted:

Alcohol consumption as a habit isn't a great thing to start in general, much less when trying to get pregnant...

Are there specific factors that make you smoke? Try to take a hiatus (drinking) or rationalize that you can still do them without a cigarette (socialize, etc). If you're one of those smokers where most of your daily activities remind you of having a cigarette I don't have any tips as I've never been in that situation.

I don't even get the urge to smoke when I drink anymore, but it only came after a couple sessions of good hardcore resistance to the craving while drinking, which I won't deny is really, really hard. The fact that I don't get hangovers when I don't smoke is a huge added incentive for me.


LOL, we drink maybe once every few Saturdays. Honestly, its that I just feel like I want to stab everyone and I can't concentrate if I don't smoke every few hours, which is NOT a good idea when your job consists of driving forklifts and tractor trailers.

Pretty much today I stretched out my smoking until I was to the point where I was going to FLIP OUT... so I have only had 5, as opposed to a whole pack.

I still feel lovely though.

Swoon
Jun 14, 2008

Doom Catcher posted:

I still feel lovely though.

Unfortunately that's pretty much what you're signing up for. At least for a little while. What helped me was looking at it for what it really was. Poison leaving your system. Sure you feel like poo poo and it seems like your body and mind are completely at odds with your will, but if you break it down to the idea of 'purging', it might steel you a bit.

Good luck! :unsmith:

KingEup
Nov 18, 2004
I am a REAL ADDICT
(to threadshitting)


Please ask me for my google inspired wisdom on shit I know nothing about. Actually, you don't even have to ask.

Doom Catcher posted:

I still feel lovely though.

That's normal.

You don't die from feeling lovely for a bit.

babies havin rabies
Feb 24, 2006

Doom Catcher posted:

LOL, we drink maybe once every few Saturdays. Honestly, its that I just feel like I want to stab everyone and I can't concentrate if I don't smoke every few hours, which is NOT a good idea when your job consists of driving forklifts and tractor

Wasn't trying to imply you're an alcoholic or something. I was referring to Shovelmint telling you to "eat, drink beer, and gently caress a lot".

Mr_Biggs
Oct 7, 2010
What major improvements will I feel in my body after quitting and getting over the feeling-lovely period?

babies havin rabies
Feb 24, 2006

Mr_Biggs posted:

What major improvements will I feel in my body after quitting and getting over the feeling-lovely period?

Increased lung capacity, whitened teeth, stronger immune system, increased sense of smell, increased sense of taste, increased night vision, lower risk of cancer/heart disease/acid reflux etc, lifespan increased by a decade or more, smug sense of satisfaction.

These are just off the top of my head. Odds are that your whole body functions better when it's not being fed burned formaldehyde all day. In myself two other side benefits I've noticed are increased alcohol tolerance (including decreased hangover severity) and the dark circles under my eyes go away after a few months. Never met another ex-smoker who reported these benefits, however.

Here's some propaganda on the night vision thing. However other sources say the link is still arguable.

http://www.ucanquit2.org/facts/vision.aspx

Other sources:
American Optometric Association http://www.aoa.org/x5352.xml
Sam, expert assassin, from the movie Ronin, 1998

babies havin rabies fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Mar 29, 2011

chippy
Aug 16, 2006

OK I DON'T GET IT
Increased night vision?!

Psychedelic
Jul 31, 2009

I'm quittin for better night vision!

Wrojin
Nov 10, 2008

Quixoticist

Mr_Biggs posted:

What major improvements will I feel in my body after quitting and getting over the feeling-lovely period?
The main thing is that you might avoid COPD and lung cancer.

I smoked for 40 years, and I have COPD. At the point where I quit smoking 3 years ago, I couldn't sleep lying flat because this made me choke on the crap in my lungs. I couldn't take a long drink of water without panicking over the lack of O2 in my system. I couldn't have sex without wheezing and running short of breath. I got bronchitis up to 3 times a year and this developed into pneumonia at least once a year.

Lung cancer of course makes COPD look like a teddy bear picnic.

The major improvement you will feel in your body after quitting smoking is that your lungs will no longer be your enemy.

ETA: You will also gain the benefits of improved circulation -- ie, better erections. Food will taste better (careful, or you'll get fat), no more smoker's halitosis, and life will be better in general because you will not be a slave to a nasty, stinking substance.

Wrojin fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Mar 30, 2011

particle409
Jan 15, 2008

Thou bootless clapper-clawed varlot!

Wrojin posted:

The main thing is that you might avoid COPD and lung cancer.

I smoked for 40 years, and I have COPD. At the point where I quit smoking 3 years ago, I couldn't sleep lying flat because this made me choke on the crap in my lungs. I couldn't take a long drink of water without panicking over the lack of O2 in my system. I couldn't have sex without wheezing and running short of breath. I got bronchitis up to 3 times a year and this developed into pneumonia at least once a year.

Lung cancer of course makes COPD look like a teddy bear picnic.

The major improvement you will feel in your body after quitting smoking is that your lungs will no longer be your enemy.

ETA: You will also gain the benefits of improved circulation -- ie, better erections. Food will taste better (careful, or you'll get fat), no more smoker's halitosis, and life will be better in general because you will not be a slave to a nasty, stinking substance.

29 years old, I was an on-off again smoker (mostly on for 10 years). I'm experiencing my first taste of bronchitis, been off for about 9 days. It's definitely going to be permanent, after experiencing this lung ache. I feel for you man.

Wrojin
Nov 10, 2008

Quixoticist

particle409 posted:

I feel for you man.

Oh, don't worry about me. My brother and sister had COPD from smoking and they're both completely clear now. They quit ahead of me, around 8 - 10 years ago.

The point I want to make is that smoking does nothing but detract from one's quality of life. Quitting is a no-brainer. No one has to be as slow a learner as I was.

[ts]xenophobe
Apr 21, 2004

Negative, I am a meat popsicle.
Got to this thread 29 pages late, but that's ok, because I'm only 7 days off the smokes. Anyone have a good suggestion to deal with the added edginess, not from nicotine withdrawal, at least in my case, but from trying to figure out what to do with your hand now that you don't have a cigarette in it? Also, I feel like because of the fact that smoking indoors isn't allowed in WI, I got used to having a few minutes outside all whenever I smoked, now i feel like I've cheated myself of those little breaks.

babies havin rabies
Feb 24, 2006

"[ts posted:

xenophobe"]
Got to this thread 29 pages late, but that's ok, because I'm only 7 days off the smokes. Anyone have a good suggestion to deal with the added edginess, not from nicotine withdrawal, at least in my case, but from trying to figure out what to do with your hand now that you don't have a cigarette in it? Also, I feel like because of the fact that smoking indoors isn't allowed in WI, I got used to having a few minutes outside all whenever I smoked, now i feel like I've cheated myself of those little breaks.

Read a book or go get fresh air? Don't always have to be doing something.

[ts]xenophobe
Apr 21, 2004

Negative, I am a meat popsicle.

babies havin rabies posted:

Read a book or go get fresh air? Don't always have to be doing something.

my "reading for pleasure" time is currently being eaten alive by reading for school. It's not that I necessarily always have to be doing something, it's more the sudden lack of something that I've been doing for 17 years.

Swoon
Jun 14, 2008

"[ts posted:

xenophobe"]
Got to this thread 29 pages late, but that's ok, because I'm only 7 days off the smokes. Anyone have a good suggestion to deal with the added edginess, not from nicotine withdrawal, at least in my case, but from trying to figure out what to do with your hand now that you don't have a cigarette in it? Also, I feel like because of the fact that smoking indoors isn't allowed in WI, I got used to having a few minutes outside all whenever I smoked, now i feel like I've cheated myself of those little breaks.

Edginess and general homicidal tendencies I curbed by doing intense cardio for 30 mins to an hour a day. But you could just go for a nice walk when you have 10 minutes to spare. Basically anything that gets you moving and elevates your heart-rate will help.

Also I dealt with the hand-fidgets and oral fixation by grabbing project foods. Pomegranates are good. Also, pistachios.

TheBandOffice
Nov 4, 2009
I've been smoking/Snussing for around 1 1/2 years. I quit yesterday, and feel like absolute poo poo today.

Joshmo
Aug 22, 2007
"Quit" two years ago. I've never been completely free of cigarettes for more than three or four months in a go, but I treat the times I smoke more like if I had smoked a cigar instead. Generally IF I'm drinking, AND it's outside, AND I have a friend who smokes, I'll usually smoke three or four and then have no urge the next day to do it. I enjoy the inhaling, the smoke, the drinking with it, etc. Besides, I only drink about once every three to four weeks in the summer and probably every six to eight during the winter, and winter rarely involves any smoking. (Alcohol is worse than smoking for my body, so it's easier for me to not drink than smoke.)

I occasionally also smoke during anxiety periods (I'm already a very nervous person and when real "episodes" hit I pretty much can't do much outside of work). I don't feel like I've invalidated anything, mostly because the urges are very short lived and I go on not smoking again after that. I figure, 95% of the time I smoke, it's only 3 or 4, and total, that's about as much tobacco as a small cigar. If I happen to have cigars with my buddies while drinking outside (we love drinking at the end of my parent's driveway when we're all back in our hometown), we don't do cigarettes.

Just because I did it, my advice is just go cold turkey. It may suck (it didn't for me, I was just irritable during the *second* week, nothing really during the first), but I'm sure it's mostly the loss of nicotine, and so you'll have to quit chewing the gum anyhow. And logically, if you lose the gum and the cravings still hit, you may just end up buying cigarettes again. Honestly, I've had a harder time quitting caffeine (never more than three weeks) than cigarettes.

[ts]xenophone: sunflower seeds. Buy the largest bag you can find. I used to love going on walks while smoking, so if you do exercise, I'd recommend cycling, but that's just me.

HopefullyWild
Feb 4, 2010

by Ozma
Smoked for four years, quit for nine months - cold turkey, simple, now back to a pack a day. I quite like smoking, but since I can't get the good rolling tobacco I used to in the previous town I lived in, I shoot for Camels. poo poo's expensive. I'm back to occasionally having a rough time breathing, but I'm loosing weight again. Somebody helppppppp me.

Camping.. Intense!
May 18, 2005

Absolutely
Grimey Drawer
So I was a smoker for 14 years and tried numerous times to give up, always with a bit of help from lozenges, e-cigs, patches, inhalers, never really went cold turkey and always failed. On the 1st Jan 2011 I decided to quit again, and i havent touched a smoke since, main reason behind it working for me was losing face in front of my mates, 5 of us all put in $200, so whoever is last man standing gets $1000. Now losing the $200 wouldnt be great and the $1000 is something to strive for, but the main thing keeping me from smokes is trying to one-up my mates, if anyone is having trouble, give it a go with some like-minded friends.

Worst thing about giving up was the 5Kg i put on after, but the cravings are gone now and I am pretty much back to normal.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
I smoked for 3 years, and quit about 4 months ago. it was easier than I expected, but I worked down to a few cigarettes a day before quitting. I'm using an E-cig, but not nearly as much as I would real smokes. Drinking a lot helped but I was also an acoholic. Now that I'm not drinking every night I find myself hitting the e-cig harder.

I guess I just wanted to say to those of you who haven't made it four months yet, keep it up, it doesn't get any worse. The e-cig is what made it possible for me, I don't think there's any shame in it and it IS better than real smokes, even if just for the smell.

I miss smoking a whole lot, but I don't want to go back to being so Dependant on it. It's scary just to realize I only need to go to gas stations like once every week or two now instead of almost every day.

Light-headed Fool
May 17, 2009

Where did my head go?
I quit two years ago after having three consecutive spontaneous pneumothoraces, of which the third one led to lung surgery. I'm still a big pussy and loser for chewing Nicorette. Well, at least I'm not loving up my lungs up anymore.

The fear of going back to hospital for a week, getting that loving tube inserted into pleural cavity through your chest is making me keep 10 m distance to anyone smoking near me.

Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


Recent ex-smoker checking in. Had my last cigarette on March 30, after a decade-long pack-a-day habit. I quit "cold turkey" using the book "The Easy Way To Stop Smoking": http://allencarr.com/

I've tried Chantix, patch, cutting back, nothing worked before this book.

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Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


TheBandOffice posted:

I've been smoking/Snussing for around 1 1/2 years. I quit yesterday, and feel like absolute poo poo today.

That "poo poo" feeling is your body recovering from nicotine addiction, cherish the poo poo feeling.

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