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I'm pretty sure that was Ness Lee vs. Illmaculate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3HOzxEACtM
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caveman thug poo poo posted:also sage francis does rap about real poo poo sometimes its just that hes not very good at it and its usually boring and way too "free form" for at least me and mostly everyone else Sage Francis is actually a very good MC and is someone who I think the way a lot of his fanbase reacts to him really colors how other people view him. I didn't listen to his last album really (still mean to), but I liked everything before that.
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Mar 30, 2011 03:33
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alansmithee posted:Sage Francis is actually a very good MC and is someone who I think the way a lot of his fanbase reacts to him really colors how other people view him. I didn't listen to his last album really (still mean to), but I liked everything before that. eh I felt kinda weird even writing the "not very good at it" part because there was a song or two, once upon a time, that i kinda dug but my "too free form" comment still holds water i think. i couldnt stand to listen to an entire album of Sage but i do know that the dude can rap
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Mar 30, 2011 03:46
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Who did Sage used to ghostwrite for? Can't remember, but I remember thinking it was pretty interesting.
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Mar 30, 2011 04:18
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alansmithee posted:Sage Francis is actually a very good MC and is someone who I think the way a lot of his fanbase reacts to him really colors how other people view him. I didn't listen to his last album really (still mean to), but I liked everything before that. i don't know about that there are few rappers who are more soullessly boring than sage francis
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Mar 30, 2011 05:26
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juicy_J posted:i don't know about that there are few rappers who are more soullessly boring than sage francis He is technically skilled but boring. White Canibus.
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Mar 30, 2011 05:52
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I don't know where you guys are getting boring, unless you're just totally turned off by a lot of his subject matter. I can't think of much rap I'd actually consider boring actually (Common and the Roots last few albums, a bunch of the throwback 90's poo poo, almost anything from the early/mid 80's). There's a lot I'd consider bad, but hardly anything boring. As for soulless, I don't see how anyone who actually did listen to Sage could justify that claim whatsoever.
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Mar 30, 2011 08:32
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alansmithee posted:I don't know where you guys are getting boring, unless you're just totally turned off by a lot of his subject matter. I can't think of much rap I'd actually consider boring actually (Common and the Roots last few albums, a bunch of the throwback 90's poo poo, almost anything from the early/mid 80's). There's a lot I'd consider bad, but hardly anything boring. As for soulless, I don't see how anyone who actually did listen to Sage could justify that claim whatsoever. I'm just tired of hearing everything out of his mouth come out the way it does. It's like I just bought a 22 track therapy album of freeform prose over hip hop beats. Give me Murs or Eyedea and Abilities before you throw me any more "crack pipes" nonsense (stopped giving a poo poo about sage francis after i saw him live when personal journalist was his new album and I actually left early he was so boring live)
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Mar 30, 2011 10:44
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alansmithee posted:I don't know where you guys are getting boring, unless you're just totally turned off by a lot of his subject matter. I can't think of much rap I'd actually consider boring actually (Common and the Roots last few albums, a bunch of the throwback 90's poo poo, almost anything from the early/mid 80's). There's a lot I'd consider bad, but hardly anything boring. As for soulless, I don't see how anyone who actually did listen to Sage could justify that claim whatsoever. I'm not questioning his skills on the mic or whatever but white dude angst poetry is the worst type of rap. same thing with saul williams and the streets, its hip hop for people who don't listen to hip hop
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Mar 30, 2011 12:43
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juicy_J posted:I'm not questioning his skills on the mic or whatever but white dude angst poetry is the worst type of rap. same thing with saul williams and the streets, its hip hop for people who don't listen to hip hop Saul Williams isnt white and The Streets isnt even hip hop. Also Sage Francis' album with Joe Beats, as Non Prophets, is one of the best albums of all time. Teepkick Shakur fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Mar 30, 2011 |
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Mar 30, 2011 14:54
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Teepkick Shakur posted:Saul Williams isnt white and The Streets isnt even hip hop. SAGSKTA. Content: Returnof4Eva is great, but I don't think I'll play it as much as KRIT wuz here. He's still doing all his own production? Other news, my girl left me for listening to too much Lil B. Well alright there was other stuff, but Lil B became a MAJOR ISSUE in our house. I'm gonna tweet him about it and see if he can hook me up with someone more BASED. So now I'm back on a college campus, visiting my friends, and danm yall are right; Wiz Khalifa DOES get played non-stop by Caucasian weed-heads. At least it's not mac miller, I guess.
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Mar 30, 2011 15:42
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juicy_J posted:I'm not questioning his skills on the mic or whatever but white dude angst poetry is the worst type of rap. same thing with saul williams and the streets, its hip hop for people who don't listen to hip hop You are ignorant. Saul Williams and spoken word are part of hip-hop's foundation. e for content: I'm really enjoying this K.R.I.T. album. He has one of the most refreshing voices I have heard in a while.
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Mar 30, 2011 15:52
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Alastor_the_Stylish posted:I'm pretty sure that was Ness Lee vs. Illmaculate. That's the one! Thanks!
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Mar 30, 2011 17:10
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I want to join the bandwagon and say I'm really enjoying Return of 4Eva. During my first listen I wasn't sure I'd like it as much as K.R.I.T. Wuz Here but after listening 4-5 times I'd say I probably enjoy both albums equally now.
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Mar 30, 2011 17:28
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juicy_J posted:I'm not questioning his skills on the mic or whatever but white dude angst poetry is the worst type of rap. same thing with saul williams and the streets, its hip hop for people who don't listen to hip hop Actually the worst kind of rap is 90% of the poo poo that gets shoveled out from the south. Again I hate white people as much or more than you do but calling his music white dude angst poetry (and then lumping him in with fuckins Saul Williams of all people) makes me think you haven't listened to either of them and are one of the dudes I talked before who lets the internet dictate what they think. But whatever, for all I know his last album was junk and he fell off the same cliff that Cage did. dethkon posted:SAGSKTA. Content: Returnof4Eva is great, but I don't think I'll play it as much as KRIT wuz here. He's still doing all his own production? Yeah he handles his own production, mixing, everything. There's actually a p cool interview with him and he goes into some of his production techniques. Also apparently "Something" off his last album was recorded in a bathroom (which maybe he should do that more often since I thought that was the best track off his last album). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93zbaLjsLh0
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Mar 30, 2011 18:47
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Didn't see this in the thread, didn't check the old thread though. Danny Brown has a new video out for his song "Guitar Solo", and it's an okay song, but in my opinion the weakest joint on "The Hybrid" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAG1TCSTVTc
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Mar 30, 2011 19:02
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Weakest joint on Hybrid is better than any other song I can think of that came out 2011. Hybrid is great.
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Mar 30, 2011 19:27
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Yeah, but seriously, I'm really glad that Detroit has something coming out of it, and especially something so refreshing, but......dude's new haircut. Seriously. What the hell?
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Mar 30, 2011 19:37
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I feel bad now, I was coming into this thread all like 'hey I listen to krs-one, i know this!' but everyone's namedropping dudes i've never heard of. 
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Teepkick Shakur posted:The Streets isnt even hip hop. he's as hip hop as Big K.R.I.T. is. Mike Skinner even makes (made?) his own beats. he's probably also as hip hop as Saul Williams, Sole, dalek, and Astronautilus is. or even as hip hop as ICP is. Hell, Mike Clark's made some decent beats in his days, and even worked with George Clinton. But, that's another story. one's disapproval of an artist's music != "this can't be hip hop!" with that said, I only like a few songs by The Streets.
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alansmithee posted:Do or Die might be something similar you'd enjoy as well: Yeah, I think it was definitely a midwest thing (that style of rapping). If you're into Crucial Conflict and Do or Die, I'd also recommend Psychodrama. They're on the Do or Die track Adrenaline Rush, and they did a few other collabos as well. quote:And yeah, E.1999 Eternal is prob one of my fav rap albums. Listened to it again a couple years ago for the first time in awhile, and had forgotten how good it was. Really atmospheric. I bought this on CD when it first came out, had it for about a week and lent it to a friend of my cousins who ended up getting shot and I never got it back.  Also, to bring back up the Fu-Schnickens talk, I remember in the 90s going to house parties and whenever they'd play "True Fu-Schnick" all the gangster two sixes would rap along and change the lyrics to "true two six" It's crazy now that do-it-yourself, basement production levels have become so good, gangsters are now laying down their own lyrics over instrumentals and putting them up on youtube/myspace/etc.
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cardedagain posted:he's as hip hop as Big K.R.I.T. is. Mike Skinner even makes (made?) his own beats. Dude Mike Skinner is a Grime artist. I'm a huge The Streets fan so I'm not sure where you're getting a sense of disapproval from. EDIT: I still have the original E.1999 tape that came out before EZ died so it doesnt have the crossroads remix on it. I was so pissed when I was 13, but now Its a cool little gem in my collection. Teepkick Shakur fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Mar 30, 2011 |
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alansmithee posted:Actually the worst kind of rap is 90% of the poo poo that gets shoveled out from the south. Again I hate white people as much or more than you do but calling his music white dude angst poetry (and then lumping him in with fuckins Saul Williams of all people) makes me think you haven't listened to either of them and are one of the dudes I talked before who lets the internet dictate what they think. But whatever, for all I know his last album was junk and he fell off the same cliff that Cage did. You say the same stupid poo poo about the South all the time, and every time you get proven wrong. Why keep doing it if you just look stupid every time?
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Shady 2.0 is crazy, Fly Away is retarded, Devil's Got A Hold On Me, and Things Get Worse or whatever, drat my favorite southern track is "Ballin Uncontrollably" by Eminem (COMEDY ANSWER) ReturnTo4Eva is really really solid, I had no idea dude did his own beats, bigups. . .
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Chade Johnson posted:You say the same stupid poo poo about the South all the time, and every time you get proven wrong. Why keep doing it if you just look stupid every time? Where have I been proven wrong? 90% of southern rap is objectively bad, and if you disagree you're wrong. If you listen to garbage music that's fine, but don't try to project on me.
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Am I the only person that is totally underwhelmed by Slaughterhouse? I think my favorite Royce raps are "Boom" and "Bad Meets Evil". I haven't heard anything from him that I thought was amazing in drat near a decade.
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cardedagain posted:Am I the only person that is totally underwhelmed by Slaughterhouse? Apparently you aint heard Death Is Certain? But yeah Slaughterhouse is boring as gently caress.
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alansmithee posted:Where have I been proven wrong? 90% of southern rap is objectively bad, and if you disagree you're wrong. If you listen to garbage music that's fine, but don't try to project on me. what type of southern rap do you consider to be good?
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cardedagain posted:Am I the only person that is totally underwhelmed by Slaughterhouse? Pretty much the same here, yeah.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIgDVx2zyuc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVMotlFZ0_w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wJlo6cWtb0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE0WMQTfKvs Nevermind those mixtapes he put out that were fire.
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Memphis has been brought up a few times but I didn't see Evil Pimp mentioned. He's a straight throwback to the grainy devil poo poo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj87DaTtlmI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbMis2Zzw5A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4-TQoClvxk Here he is a few years ago speaking about a possible collab with Three 6 (never happened) and how he's not going to get ripped off like all the other Prophet/HCP artists: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN09JzfSJpY
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cardedagain posted:Am I the only person that is totally underwhelmed by Slaughterhouse? Yeah, I've always thought that too. They don't seem to mesh well as a group at all. I always wondered why such a big deal was made when a bunch of artists who nobody really cared about solo got together. I still think they're just a modern (arguably worse) rehash of the Four Horsemen. juicy_J posted:what type of southern rap do you consider to be good? There's only a handful of southern dudes I'd consider good rappers, or even average: Outkast, Luda, Scarface, Jay Electronica, Wayne, T.I., Goodie Mob, Krit...that's about all I can think of. When Krit's first album came out it took me a few months to bother listening to it cause I heard he was from the south (and I was quite surprised).
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Teepkick Shakur posted:(Royce stuff) I think he's only had one BAD album, and I think his solo a couple years ago (Street Hop iirc) was way better than the Slaughterhouse project.
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alansmithee posted:I think he's only had one BAD album, and I think his solo a couple years ago (Street Hop iirc) was way better than the Slaughterhouse project. You made someone so mad they spent money on you.
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Teepkick Shakur posted:You made someone so mad they spent money on you. Nah, this one came from respect for my posting contributions...I think. alansmithee fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Mar 31, 2011 |
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cardedagain posted:Am I the only person that is totally underwhelmed by Slaughterhouse?
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alansmithee posted:There's only a handful of southern dudes I'd consider good rappers, or even average: Outkast, Luda, Scarface, Jay Electronica, Wayne, T.I., Goodie Mob, Krit...that's about all I can think of. When Krit's first album came out it took me a few months to bother listening to it cause I heard he was from the south (and I was quite surprised). don't forget currensy well here imma put you on to some down south artists that most sleep on: http://youtu.be/KEJunbvg-1I http://youtu.be/gh4kr1G7pys http://youtu.be/dAtaUX2db2s http://youtu.be/jt4xDMjIJew http://youtu.be/_KfGCCC2ntE http://youtu.be/alqxe9brQzg if you can't gently caress with any of those records then you're a herb
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Alastor_the_Stylish posted:I'm pretty sure that was Ness Lee vs. Illmaculate. That was pretty dope.
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juicy_J posted:don't forget currensy Couple of those I've heard before (Mac and 8ball & MJG, think my friend even had that album), wasn't impressed then and still remain unimpressed. 3 of the others were pretty much junk. Apparently having the actual ability to rap is optional for most southern poo poo. But I was really really digging that Mass Influence track. IMO deserves the highest praise southern rappers can get: it doesn't even sound like southern rap! I'll def check for more of that.
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alansmithee posted:There's only a handful of southern dudes I'd consider good rappers, or even average: Outkast, Luda, Scarface, Jay Electronica, Wayne, T.I., Goodie Mob, Krit...that's about all I can think of. So what about Cham(pre-"Good Morning"), Rick Ross, Bun B, Young Buck, Stat Quo, Jeezy, Z-Ro, Killer Mike, Field Mob(questionable), or Yelawolf? Also:I was at Wal-mart today and noticed there was a David Banner/9th Wonder album titled "Death of a Popstar". Never heard about it until now so I just thought I'd spread the word.
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