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Welp, I've given up on ASUS. My first P8P67 Pro wouldn't post so I went out and got just the vanilla board since Fry's was out of the Pro. This time it powers on but won't display anything. I go through the normal steps of reseating the video card, ram, etc and clearing CMOS to no avail. After being on for about 30 seconds a small flame shot out of the motherboard. Guess I'm going back to Gigabyte once I return this. 
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movax posted:What? Pro has a bracket (at least if you do your RMA via Asus, you get a new retail box, not just a bare board. So I have two of everything now!) I'm not RMA'ing the board through Asus, just getting a refund through NewEgg since I want to do an upgrade from an LE to at least a Pro.
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greasyhands posted:I had this problem for a few before I figured out you had to press enter after entering the FSB speed- it appears to set it even if you don't, but it actually doesn't until you hit enter. 
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Sorry for shifting gears on the current topic folks, just had a couple questions about these new platforms. I'm currently using a Core2 e5200 dual core with a GTX 460 1gb. I'm trying to run most of my games at 1920x1080. Will moving to a 2500k system really make much difference? Most of the benchmarks I manage to find compare the new systems with the previous gen i-series stuff. Almost 100% of my system usage is PC gaming (Just Cause 2, Red Faction Guerrilla, GTA4, etc. etc... and a handful of flash games).
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A lot of newer games are taking advantage of CPUs with more than two cores. GTA4 was a huge CPU hog, it used to max out my Q6600 system, and Battlefield: Bad Company 2 runs far better on a quad core CPU than a dual core. This Tech Report has a good review of the SB chips, and compares it to other CPUs: http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188/7
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Thanks! That's probably the most comprehensive review I've yet seen (and it uses the same video card with a somewhat similar processor). Didn't realize I was that far behind the curve already.
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I've been trying to go through the last few pages of the thread to see if the Sandy Bridge issues have been worked out. I'm looking to build a new computer, and wanted to make sure the kinks were out of the system before investing in a new processor and board. From what it looks like the manufacturers have updated boards to fix some of the issues seen previously. Is this true, or do I need to wait a while longer before jumping into the Sandy Bridge world?
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Vectorwulf posted:Thanks! That's probably the most comprehensive review I've yet seen (and it uses the same video card with a somewhat similar processor). Didn't realize I was that far behind the curve already. The only reason I upgraded from my E6600 to 2600K goodness is because I was beginning to get CPU bound in games. I don't like closing all my other apps to play games and have a habit of leaving VMs running accidentally, so the extra threads + 16GB RAM really comes in handy. (I had the C2D paired with a GTX460 as well and was getting abysmal performance in many titles). @Falco: yes, hardware kinks are out, feel free to purchase Sandy Bridge hardware.
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Falco posted:I've been trying to go through the last few pages of the thread to see if the Sandy Bridge issues have been worked out. I'm looking to build a new computer, and wanted to make sure the kinks were out of the system before investing in a new processor and board. From what it looks like the manufacturers have updated boards to fix some of the issues seen previously. The only available boards retail wise are all fixed, but if you are paranoid, look for things that indicate revision 3 or stepping 3 on the model. They've removed the older models from new inventory completely, so you should have no problem finding the right boards.
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Gembolah posted:What games were you getting "abysmal" performance out of? The E6600 is a little dated, but with an OC should still be perfectly serviceable. Of course, all of this is subject to cost-benefit- is it worth a $500+ platform upgrade worth not having to turn down settings in some games Disclaimer: playing at 2560x1600. IIRC, my E6600 was overclocked to ~3.2GHz or so. Force Unleashed, Black Ops, ME2 and a few others I'd get some nasty stuttering/lag. Same graphics card, 2600K, smooth as butter. Granted, I could have squeezed more life out of it if I bothered to close Firefox/torrents/everything else before playing games, but the E6600 lives on in my server now.
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You Am I posted:This Tech Report has a good review of the SB chips, and compares it to other CPUs:
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dud root posted:I wish more review sites would include min fps. Its the most important statistic!
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movax posted:Disclaimer: playing at 2560x1600. IIRC, my E6600 was overclocked to ~3.2GHz or so. Force Unleashed, Black Ops, ME2 and a few others I'd get some nasty stuttering/lag. Same graphics card, 2600K, smooth as butter. Just to add to this I upgraded from a e5200@3.3ghz to a 2500k that I run at 4.4ghz and kept the same video card. My performance increased dramatically, not just from a raw FPS perspective but all the stutters I used to get are gone.
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So I upgraded my system to a i5-2500k and everything appears to be in working order. My power supply doesn't have a 8-pin CPU connector but 2 x 4-pin connectors for the CPU. I currently have both plugged in and no apparent problems have popped up. Is this safe for the long term? Should I look at getting something like: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3204 or just get a new power supply altogether?
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Joink posted:So I upgraded my system to a i5-2500k and everything appears to be in working order. My power supply doesn't have a 8-pin CPU connector but 2 x 4-pin connectors for the CPU. I currently have both plugged in and no apparent problems have popped up. Is this safe for the long term? Should I look at getting something like: edit: Like the Corsair HX PSU I just got had two 4's that snap together to form the 8-pin version
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Apr 5, 2011 22:48
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Joink posted:So I upgraded my system to a i5-2500k and everything appears to be in working order. My power supply doesn't have a 8-pin CPU connector but 2 x 4-pin connectors for the CPU. I currently have both plugged in and no apparent problems have popped up. Is this safe for the long term? Should I look at getting something like: 2x4-pin is just for flexibility, in case you have a 4-pin motherboard. Same reason ATX connectors come as 20+4-pin instead of straight 24. The wiring is the same as a one-piece 8-pin, right? Four yellow 12V lines and four black ground lines? If so, no worries. Heck, even my tippity-top-of-the-line Seasonic Gold PSU has a 2x4-pin connector instead of an 8-pin. If you'd like an opinion on whether your PSU is worth its salt, go ahead and post its make and model (and, if you can see 'em on the side of the PSU, the amperage ratings for all of its rails).
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Intel has branded the Z68's SSD caching feature as "Smart Response." Intel REALLY needs a better marketing department...
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movax posted:Disclaimer: playing at 2560x1600. IIRC, my E6600 was overclocked to ~3.2GHz or so. Force Unleashed, Black Ops, ME2 and a few others I'd get some nasty stuttering/lag. Same graphics card, 2600K, smooth as butter. I play games at 2560x1600 also. I had a Q6600 oc'ed to 3.8GHz along with a pair of 6970's and games were incredibly CPU limited. Switched to a 2600K and even at stock speeds everything runs much, much better.
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real_scud posted:No that should be fine because a lot of the PSU's have exactly what you're describing and they can either be pushed together to power 8-pin boards, or if you have an older one they only use one of them and are perfectly fine. Yea looks like its nothing. Running at 4.6GHZ and 1.3V CPU Vcore with idle temps around 40'C. Haven't pushed it higher but I think i'll wait until I get an aftermarket cooler on the thing before I try.
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Well, just got my replacement p8p67 motherboard. I took everything out of my old one and put on the new one. Now my new one is giving me a memory error (Memory Check light is red). The system appears to be testing. The memory light is constant red. At the very end of the test, the CPU light flashes red one time and the system restarts. Everything worked fine before (Except the faulty SATA connections). No sounds at all during this whole power up/red light/restart. It looks like ill be on my 3rd motherboard. 
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strategery posted:Well, just got my replacement p8p67 motherboard. I took everything out of my old one and put on the new one. Now my new one is giving me a memory error (Memory Check light is red). The system appears to be testing. The memory light is constant red. At the very end of the test, the CPU light flashes red one time and the system restarts. Everything worked fine before (Except the faulty SATA connections). Are you sure you mounted the RAM correctly? The DIMM slots on my B3 board are a lot tighter than the board before that, and I had to try a few times and use quite a bit of force to get rid of the same problem.
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strategery posted:Well, just got my replacement p8p67 motherboard. I took everything out of my old one and put on the new one. Now my new one is giving me a memory error (Memory Check light is red). The system appears to be testing. The memory light is constant red. At the very end of the test, the CPU light flashes red one time and the system restarts. Everything worked fine before (Except the faulty SATA connections). Hmm, maybe it's been awhile since I've installed my P8P67, but isn't that button by the memory check light intended to get the system to boot to BIOS so you can bump memory voltage if needed? Definitely check the manual, I know I had a similar problem to you; had to keep trying to boot with one stick of RAM until I got into BIOS and could bump up DDR3 voltage. Also I didn't see a generic "cool upcoming hardware" thread, but PCIe 3.0 support is beginning to appear (BIOS wise, anyways): code:
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Figured that things wouldn't go over smoothly. Apparently I've bent a pin when taking the board out. The clerk at my usual shop noticed and called their main support guy to decide. He was immediately being a human being, by not saying hello or anything and telling me "I'm not taking that back" in a caveman manner. When I asked him if that's really an issue, since the board's declared de facto broken anyway, he became a raging homo. So I figured, gently caress 'em, cut my losses and went to the other shop on the other side of the road and got a new one. In retrospect, I should have kept my cool and asked for a box cutter, which is how I fixed it in two seconds, and now the "bent" pin is where it should be, flush with the rest, you wouldn't even know it was bent. But I guess I have to go through RMA directly with Asus (and then sell it on Ebay), since I called him a tremendous rear end in a top hat for being so goddamn irritating.  Then again, if he's the main support guy, I wonder why he didn't even consider trying to put it back into place himself. Also, I took the opportunity to put a bigger CPU cooler on it. The stock one that came with the i7-2600 kinda lost my confidence in it, after noticing the noise it made trying to cool down my video encoding few days ago.
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For the record, Intel released the Sandy Bridge-based Xeon E3 series for workstations and entry-level servers. These parts have hit Newegg. Almost all models are a variation on the i7-2600 series, except the E3-1220(L) and E3-1225, which are most like the i5-2500 series. The 1220L and 1260L are particularly interesting: the former is a dual-core part, 2.2 GHz base/3.4 GHz turbo, with a TDP of 20W; the latter is quad-core 2.4/3.3 GHz part with a TDP of 45W. At the top end, the E3-1280 foregoes integrated graphics but runs at 3.5 GHz/3.9 GHz turbo, which I believe is the highest stock clock speed I've ever seen, beating out the P4 Prescott 2M 672 @ 3.8 GHz. Intel has also released an updated Nehalem-based Xeon line with up to 10-core processors with up to 30 MB(!) of L3 cache, but those are not Sandy Bridge and therefore boring.
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What kind of temperatures should I be seeing on a 2500k at stock speeds with the Intel cooler? It idles around 30C which seems well enough, but if I throw it under Prime95 for some load testing it shoots up to 60C+ and the fan RPM never budges from 2000. On my old E6600 the fan speed would start ramping up around 50C which seems right, 60C seems high to me.
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Intel SATA 3Gb ports vs the Marvell 6Gb. Which ones are the better option? With 3Gb drives? I keep noticing that Marvell gets a small bad rap all the time. Why's that?
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strategery posted:Well, just got my replacement p8p67 motherboard. I took everything out of my old one and put on the new one. Now my new one is giving me a memory error (Memory Check light is red). The system appears to be testing. The memory light is constant red. At the very end of the test, the CPU light flashes red one time and the system restarts. Everything worked fine before (Except the faulty SATA connections). The RAM LED came on for me as well when I replaced my P8P67 with a new one, but I re-seated the memory and it started up. It definitely requires what I would characterize as an uncomfortable level of force to get the memory to really seat properly.
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Combat Pretzel posted:Intel SATA 3Gb ports vs the Marvell 6Gb. Which ones are the better option? With 3Gb drives? I keep noticing that Marvell gets a small bad rap all the time. Why's that? This old Anandtech review compared Intel SATA 2 ports vs. Marvell SATA 3 ports for the same drives. Basically, Marvell ports are slower despite supporting a faster standard on paper; they can't handle the same number of IOPS, which translates directly to all types of drive speed. It's not a huge difference, and for a plain ol' storage drive they work fine, but they just aren't the best things. As for whether you get better performance plugged a SATA 2 (3 Gbps) drive into a SATA 3 (6 Gbps) port, absolutely not; the port will only run at SATA 2 speeds in that case. BangersInMyKnickers posted:What kind of temperatures should I be seeing on a 2500k at stock speeds with the Intel cooler? It idles around 30C which seems well enough, but if I throw it under Prime95 for some load testing it shoots up to 60C+ and the fan RPM never budges from 2000. On my old E6600 the fan speed would start ramping up around 50C which seems right, 60C seems high to me. That's a little high, but not crazy, and well within spec. Burn-in testing usually causes higher temperatures than regular loads, anyway.
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Factory Factory posted:This old Anandtech review compared Intel SATA 2 ports vs. Marvell SATA 3 ports for the same drives. Basically, Marvell ports are slower despite supporting a faster standard on paper; they can't handle the same number of IOPS, which translates directly to all types of drive speed. Factory Factory posted:That's a little high, but not crazy, and well within spec. Burn-in testing usually causes higher temperatures than regular loads, anyway.
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strategery posted:Well, just got my replacement p8p67 motherboard. I took everything out of my old one and put on the new one. Now my new one is giving me a memory error (Memory Check light is red). The system appears to be testing. The memory light is constant red. At the very end of the test, the CPU light flashes red one time and the system restarts. Everything worked fine before (Except the faulty SATA connections). Try moving the clear RTC jumper (next to the mobo power light) for about 15 seconds with the power disconnected and then move it back. That fixed a problem similar to what you're having when I tried changing my RAM frequency.
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strategery posted:Well, just got my replacement p8p67 motherboard. I took everything out of my old one and put on the new one. Now my new one is giving me a memory error (Memory Check light is red). The system appears to be testing. The memory light is constant red. At the very end of the test, the CPU light flashes red one time and the system restarts. Everything worked fine before (Except the faulty SATA connections). So I did all the suggested actions. Finally - for whatever reason - the computer now boots up to bios with one stick of ram. Do I set the bios any differently? There is a setting to set to optimized defaults. EDIT: Just saved without changing anything and shut down. Restarted with both sticks of ram and went back to red light/no screen. EDIT2: So went to one stick again and then swapped sticks. Turns out one of them somehow went bad while transitioning to the new MB.
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Try reseating the CPU. I had similar issues after I replaced my HSF until I removed and reseated.
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Combat Pretzel posted:Intel SATA 3Gb ports vs the Marvell 6Gb. Which ones are the better option? With 3Gb drives? I keep noticing that Marvell gets a small bad rap all the time. Why's that? Aside from the poor performance already mentioned, they don't have particularly stellar reliability. I had stability problems on my last system which I eventually determined coincided perfectly with having anything (even a DVD drive) on the marvell controller's ports. A number of people have posted in the SSD thread with similar issues.
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Whelp ordered a new P8P67 Pro to replace my LE board that is funky and has some bad SATA ports. Think this'll actually be the first time I've ever had to take off a HSF from a mobo to seat it on another so this should be fun.
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chutwig posted:The RAM LED came on for me as well when I replaced my P8P67 with a new one, but I re-seated the memory and it started up. It definitely requires what I would characterize as an uncomfortable level of force to get the memory to really seat properly. Same thing happened to me. Also, gently caress the Cooler Master 212...i think there is more blood on that thing than thermal paste now.
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Is there a known issue with with P67 boards seeing the display blank out, occasionally with repeating vertical bars? I'm 90% sure that it is just a bad video card but I'd like to know I didn't miss anything before I RMA.
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:Is there a known issue with with P67 boards seeing the display blank out, occasionally with repeating vertical bars? I'm 90% sure that it is just a bad video card but I'd like to know I didn't miss anything before I RMA. Well, uh, the P67's shouldn't have integrated graphics, so I assume you're talking about your videocard? Cable seated properly? What's your BCLK? PCIe spread spectrum on or off?
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movax posted:Well, uh, the P67's shouldn't have integrated graphics, so I assume you're talking about your videocard? Cable seated properly? What's your BCLK? PCIe spread spectrum on or off? Spread spectrum is off and I've reseated at this point. No idea about the BCLK, but I would assume it's still at factory settings. Like I said, I'm 90% sure it's just the video card being bad but the way the keyboard locks up when it happens makes me a little worried about the PCIe bus/chipset as well. I don't have enough hardware to do a proper bench test which is making this more difficult that I expected.
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