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More thoughts on crossovers...xzzy posted:Do I just gotta get skinnier legs? Is a technique thing I gotta sort out? Is there a difference in feel between hockey skates and figure skates? I have the same problem as you as far as not having toothpick legs goes. There's been some great advice from guys probably a lot more qualified than me already (I just started skating last April, so I've only been at this a year), but. One of my skating instructors in my first learn-to-skate class suggested practicing crossovers off the ice by walking sideways up a staircase in my skates (leave your soakers on, though). So if you have access to a staircase, that might be a way to do some practicing when you can't get ice time. bewbies, thanks so much for this thread. I have found some dead useful info in here.
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Nick Cage posted:( So I made a go of this at lunch, and think I need more details. Does this practice come from a book I can buy, or is there a youtube somewhere that illustrates the exercise? I'm just not sure where my balance should be. If the "(" curve is supposed to be done on my right foot, as I suspect it is, my balance still needs a lot of work because I took a number of spills trying to get it right. Either due to balancing on the wrong part of the foot, or bad posture, whatever. I'm fine with falling down, but I want to be sure it's due to needing practice and not due to doing it completely wrong.
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xzzy posted:So I made a go of this at lunch, and think I need more details. Does this practice come from a book I can buy, or is there a youtube somewhere that illustrates the exercise? Yeah, you're supposed to do the ( curve on your right foot to work the outside edge. Here's a sort-of extreme example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV5v8-Na8vI&feature=related Obviously you don't need to make that big of a curve when you're just starting. It's definitely tough to figure out how to get on and stay on the outside edge. The Laura Stamm stuff is pretty good, there's a book and DVD. http://www.amazon.com/Laura-Stamms-Power-Skating-DVD/dp/B000HT201G/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b http://www.amazon.com/Laura-Stamms-Power-Skating-4th/dp/0736076204/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1302806699&sr=8-1
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Apr 14, 2011 19:51
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This is another good one, it gives me nightmares. We used to have to do this until we couldn't feel our legs anymore 
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Apr 14, 2011 20:20
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Thufir posted:Yeah, you're supposed to do the ( curve on your right foot to work the outside edge. Here's a sort-of extreme example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV5v8-Na8vI&feature=related Obviously you don't need to make that big of a curve when you're just starting. It's definitely tough to figure out how to get on and stay on the outside edge. Stamm has a lot of good stuff. Good drills that focus on the little parts of your skating. bewbies posted:This is another good one, it gives me nightmares. We used to have to do this until we couldn't feel our legs anymore
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Apr 14, 2011 20:31
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bewbies posted:This is another good one, it gives me nightmares. We used to have to do this until we couldn't feel our legs anymore Christ... I'm taking a power-skating class right now and one session she bungee'd our ankles together and tried doing: (( )) (( )) (( So goddamn hard, everyone was falling over.
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Apr 14, 2011 20:59
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Christ... What is her name?
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bewbies posted:This is another good one, it gives me nightmares. We used to have to do this until we couldn't feel our legs anymore Jesus gently caress, I'm gonna need some leg pads if that's where I want to be in the long run. I whacked my knee pretty good today and it's already sore.. doing anything like that (or the video Thufir posted) I'm gonna need to find some way to not bruise myself falling. I'm just not confident enough to throw my balance around that much, and I think it's limiting how far I'm willing to push. Does anyone make "practice pads" that I can strap over my jeans when I go to a lunch skate, or are full shin guards the only way to go? Something for elbows would be nice too.
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Apr 14, 2011 21:50
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poser posted:What is her name? Sadistic Bitch, apparently.
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poser posted:What is her name? Alyssa, she's a figure skater. I can never feel my legs afterward 
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Habibi posted:Sadistic Bitch, apparently. THIS!!!
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bewbies posted:This is another good one, it gives me nightmares. We used to have to do this until we couldn't feel our legs anymore Hahaha gently caress this drill forever. I've got a crap knee and when I do this all I think is "Ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch." xzzy posted:"practice pads" You should be able to get full shin guards and some hockey elbows pretty cheap, otherwise you can try going to a skate shop (as in skateboard) and just buy some hard plastic knee and elbow pads. You definitely want to minimize that fear of falling to improve as fast as possible, most of the falls I see beginners make is because of not trusting their edges enough, not shifting their weight enough, not committing when they'd be fine if they just weren't so freaked out about maybe falling over. As everyones already reiterated, don't be put off by the outside edge drill, outside edges are supposed to be hard and getting used to them will make a big difference. Bend your knees more.
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Edit: Sorry, wrong thread.
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I got a great shooting drill from a guy I play with who has an absolutely killer snap shot, it is a great way to learn the mechanics of flexing the stick and moving the blade. Get some pucks and set up at about the top of the circles. Angle both of your feet parallel to the goal line (if you're a right handed shot, they'll be facing directly at the right side boards). You then shoot; you start with the puck literally behind your butt (just behind the front foot heel) and try to let it go as hard as you can by flexing the stick off the toe and launching it. You'll find out very quickly if you're shoveling it (it won't go anywhere), flipping it (it will flutter and probably go over the net), or maximizing your energy transfer. Since you can't move your feet you're not getting any weight transfer, so you're entirely dependent on your wrists and stick to shoot the puck. If you practice this until you can reliably hit corners while doing this, you're going to have a very useful snapper. He worked with a couple of guys with mediocre shots for about 10 minutes, and their improvement was noticeable during this really brief lesson. I did it for about half an hour after our game and I felt like I was shooting it better also.
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Apr 15, 2011 05:40
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"Behind your butt" like the puck is really behind you?
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gigabitnokie posted:"Behind your butt" like the puck is really behind you? Yeah. Here I made an MSPaint diagram  You're facing the direction of the red arrow, the black things are your skates. I think this makes sense, let me know if it is confusing.
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bewbies posted:Yeah. Here I made an MSPaint diagram This is confusing. if the red circles are my hands and the puck is behind me and I am facing in the direction of the thin red arrow, I am Gumby.  This all makes sense if I am facing the other way but you've said the opposite OHHHH, I get it I think. Shoulders square to the net, feet point to the boards, reach back, wrist only.  This is much more doable than I previously imagined oddIXIbbo fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Apr 15, 2011 |
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oddIXIbbo posted:This is confusing. I don't have a stick with me here at work but I'm pretty sure I can do that without being particularly flexible. Edit: try turning your shoulders a little bit.
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Yeah, I assume there's a lot of torso twisting in the exercise. You can definitely get the stick behind you if you need too. I'm just not sure how it helps with snap shots. 
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bewbies posted:Yeah. Here I made an MSPaint diagram
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Yeah, you turn your torso so your chest is facing the target, feet remain facing parallel to the goal line. It is useful because it really forces you to use the flex of the stick to shoot as you can't use your legs/weight shift to get any velocity. After working like this for a while and then going back to a normal shooting technique you'll be shocked how much easier it is.
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Now I just want to go work on that and outside edge drills but there's no stick and puck time on the rink calendar at the moment
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Thufir posted:Now I just want to go work on that and outside edge drills but there's no stick and puck time on the rink calendar at the moment Everything at my rink got canceled today because of some stupid figure skating bullshit thing so now I have almost nothing to do for the next nine hours which is agonizing
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Lawnie posted:Everything at my rink got canceled today because of some stupid figure skating bullshit thing so now I have almost nothing to do for the next nine hours which is agonizing At least I have my skills clinic tomorrow morning. At 6:50 AM. Roughly 6.5 hours after the expected regulation end of Preds-Ducks 
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Thufir posted:At least I have my skills clinic tomorrow morning. At 6:50 AM. Roughly 6.5 hours after the expected regulation end of Preds-Ducks if my rink had a skills clinic at 6:50am i'd be there all the time. and i'm a college student so that's like torture, really
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Lawnie posted:if my rink had a skills clinic at 6:50am i'd be there all the time. and i'm a college student so that's like torture, really It's kind of expensive and they only run it for 4-6 weeks at a time, apparently depending on the whims of the director of hockey but it's a lot of fun and has been really helpful. 6:50 is an improvement, it used to be at 6:00.
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One of my favorite drills is to practice shooting on the net with your body positioned behind the goal line. Forehand, Backhand, etc. Really improves accurracy, forces you to try shooting from an akward angle considering all you see is the side of the net when shooting, it forces you to blindly figure out how to make the shot without having to see it. 
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Thisbewbies posted:And this Verman posted:are both awesome. I wish the Caps would stop having playoff games on nights I usually play hockey.
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I can't stop laughing at this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZcUcw7rDuw&feature=related
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trilljester posted:I can't stop laughing at this video. This guy seriously knows how to stroke it.
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It's like an old car chase where they speed up the film to make it look faster.
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I liked the "catch the falling glove" drill.
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I signed up for a beginner class but I have no idea what people wear to these things. Do I need hockey pants? Will sweatpants suffice or make me look like even more of a doofus? Excellent op by the way. Makes me wish I'd gone to the rink a few times leading up to this.
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robcat posted:I signed up for a beginner class in Oakland but I have no idea what people wear to these things. Do I need hockey pants? Will sweatpants suffice or make me look like even more of a doofus? Excellent op by the way. Makes me wish I'd gone to the rink a few times leading up to this. I would get at least: Gloves, shin/knee pads, elbow pads, helmet, stick. They might not let you on the ice without that stuff, definitely need a helmet. If you're committed to playing hockey might as well start looking for hockey pants too. edit: and a CUP!
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The site said gear may be available for per-session use in the class so I'm hoping they just have some crappy old things to use. Definitely getting a cup though...that's not really an ideal "borrowed" piece of equipment.
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Just pulled the trigger on some X:40 skates to replace my X:20s that I've realized are 1/2 size too big. Anyone ever bake your own skates at home? Ice Warehouse has a video guide that makes it not look too hard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBqRt701oZQ
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Thufir posted:Just pulled the trigger on some X:40 skates to replace my X:20s that I've realized are 1/2 size too big. Anyone ever bake your own skates at home? Ice Warehouse has a video guide that makes it not look too hard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBqRt701oZQ That's almost exactly what I do (I do 200 for 5 minutes because my oven is dumb) and you're right, it's really simple.
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Thufir posted:Just pulled the trigger on some X:40 skates to replace my X:20s that I've realized are 1/2 size too big. Anyone ever bake your own skates at home? Ice Warehouse has a video guide that makes it not look too hard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBqRt701oZQ Just be very careful with the temps, better to pull it out too soon and have to put it back in than to have it get too hot. Also make sure you pull OUT on the laces and not UP, pulling up will sometimes rip out the eyelets.
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bewbies posted:Yeah, you turn your torso so your chest is facing the target, feet remain facing parallel to the goal line. Was screwing around in the basement and remembered to try this, seemed to help, will see when next time at the rink/court since I only have about 15ft to shoot inside
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Being the only team in the league who doesn't play with any ringers is awesome. Lost 7-4 last night. Two ringers scored 6 of their 7 goals, one of them had 4. We ended up outshooting them too. 
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