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MelvinTheJerk posted:Space Siege and EVERGRACE
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I beat that game, and Space Siege is loving garbage Congratulations on beating GOTY Space Siege!
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Apr 16, 2011 22:41
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Stelas posted:EVERGRACE Ephemeral Phantasia. 
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Apr 16, 2011 22:43
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Stelas posted:EVERGRACE Evergrace at least tried to be something different than your average jrpg, and is actually kinda fun once you know what the gently caress you're doing. The long rear end bonus dungeon where you have to pray nothing ever knocks you into a pit for the hours it takes to get through is pretty inexcusable, though.
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Apr 16, 2011 22:44
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It's not an RPG, but for what it's worth, Kane and Lynch 2 is the worst game I've ever paid full price for. That poo poo made DA2 look like, uh, a pretty good game. DA:O maybe. Worst RPG I've played is probably DX:IW. That was a bad game with or without the Deus Ex name.
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Apr 16, 2011 22:46
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UselessLurker posted:Ephemeral Phantasia. Ephemeral Phantasia did a lot of things wrong - most of them - but I kind of appreciated the idea behind trying to manipulate and work within timeloops. I never got the chance to play Majora's Mask so it was kind of neat. dis astranagant posted:Evergrace at least tried to be something different than your average jrpg, and is actually kinda fun once you know what the gently caress you're doing. I guess so, but even when I can usually find something to like about any RPG (be it mechanics or style or whatever) I really had to reach pretty hard for Evergrace. I suppose Forever Kingdom was even worse because the dumb 'this-is-awful' charm was gone and replaced with pure blandness. PS2 had some really bizarre obscure RPGs. I want someone to LP Unlimited SaGa if only because I spent weeks learning how the mechanics worked. Even then I don't think I completed a single storyline.
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Apr 16, 2011 23:07
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Anyone have a save from Last Scenario from where SPOILERS I just looked and I've got a save from just before entering the dungeon where that happens. Would that work? If so, post an email or something and I'll send it over.
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Apr 16, 2011 23:07
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Stelas posted:Ephemeral Phantasia did a lot of things wrong - most of them - but I kind of appreciated the idea behind trying to manipulate and work within timeloops. I never got the chance to play Majora's Mask so it was kind of neat. First you'd have to find someone who actually liked Unlimited SaGa unlike the 99.99999% of people who played it and would rather stick the disc in the microwave to save others from the chance that might play that garbage.
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Apr 16, 2011 23:18
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Hey, I maintain it had its charms. I just don't know what they were, beyond maybe Stockholm Syndrome.
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Apr 16, 2011 23:54
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DA2 will be a really good barometer in the future, if you check any reviewers history and they were an apologist for that poo poo then you know you can disregard anything they say.
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Apr 17, 2011 00:11
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TJO posted:DA2 will be a really good barometer in the future, if you check any reviewers history and they were an apologist for that poo poo then you know you can disregard anything they say. I already had that with reviewers who gave NIER bad scores due to being hung up on sidequests or fishing. 
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Apr 17, 2011 00:42
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Can anyone suggest a good RPG that isnt some crapfest JRPG or some worthless shat-out RPGMaker game? Preferably nothing from the 90s (2d/isometrics are fine as long as the interface and visuals arent trash) since Ive played em all and dont care to put up with them again. Ive played all the usual suspects/popular RPGs and am just trying to find something Ive overlooked, some crazy Eastern European RPG that Ive never heard of, or RPG-lites like Deus Ex, only good. Id like to stay away from fantasy but thats like asking a blind man to get you water in the desert. I would mention I dont have a console but nobody makes good RPGs for them anyway, so.
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Apr 17, 2011 01:15
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Stelas posted:Ephemeral Phantasia did a lot of things wrong - most of them - but I kind of appreciated the idea behind trying to manipulate and work within timeloops. I never got the chance to play Majora's Mask so it was kind of neat. The best RPG with timeloops is Half-Minute Hero, which I just bought...so thank you for this segue. It's been discussed in this thread already so I'll just say that Half-Minute Hero is fantastic.
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Apr 17, 2011 01:44
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TJO posted:DA2 will be a really good barometer in the future, if you check any reviewers history and they were an apologist for that poo poo then you know you can disregard anything they say. There's a difference between being an apologist for the game and stating it's the best rpg in several years. That's just a special level of crazy.
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Apr 17, 2011 06:24
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dis astranagant posted:First you'd have to find someone who actually liked Unlimited SaGa unlike the 99.99999% of people who played it and would rather stick the disc in the microwave to save others from the chance that might play that garbage. Unlimited SaGa's really not a bad game - it does exactly what it set out to accomplish. That particular appeal, however, is limited to probably less than one hundred gamers worldwide. I'm sure you'd all prefer a happy medium between the twenty-hour long tutorials of, say, FFXIII and SaGa's explicit refusal to explain how the game is played, but I'd gladly take the latter.
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Apr 17, 2011 06:42
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One Hundred Monkeys posted:I just looked and I've got a save from just before entering the dungeon where that happens. Would that work? If so, post an email or something and I'll send it over. Yeah that's fine, it's just it's so close to the end and the LPs I was reading they sort of gave up 
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Apr 17, 2011 06:43
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WOLF KIDULT MAN posted:Unlimited SaGa's really not a bad game - it does exactly what it set out to accomplish. That particular appeal, however, is limited to probably less than one hundred gamers worldwide. I'm sure you'd all prefer a happy medium between the twenty-hour long tutorials of, say, FFXIII and SaGa's explicit refusal to explain how the game is played, but I'd gladly take the latter. The problem with Unlimited SaGa is that in addition to a vast myriad of hidden rules so vague and numerous it is like learning a new language is that even if one does master the rules it is still a terrible game. The only person I have ever known to play Unlimited Saga to a single character's quest completion has medically diagnosed aspergers and even he thought it was pretty poo poo.
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Apr 17, 2011 06:45
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TheOriginalEd posted:I plowed everything in the game and the Cloud of Darkness killed my party in 2 rounds. I put the game down and never went back... I stayed alive for a good while and maybe just maybe was close to killing her but I kept having to revive and heal party members and did such little damage it was a downhill spiral. But the real kick in the face was that I had to do that entire dungeon again because there's no save point anywhere. That's, like, a couple of hours of work completely thrown in the wind. I too put the game down and never tried to finish.
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Apr 17, 2011 06:54
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Evoq posted:Can anyone suggest a good RPG that isnt some crapfest JRPG or some worthless shat-out RPGMaker game? Preferably nothing from the 90s (2d/isometrics are fine as long as the interface and visuals arent trash) since Ive played em all and dont care to put up with them again. Ive played all the usual suspects/popular RPGs and am just trying to find something Ive overlooked, some crazy Eastern European RPG that Ive never heard of, or RPG-lites like Deus Ex, only good. Id like to stay away from fantasy but thats like asking a blind man to get you water in the desert. Indie games I'd recommend are The Spirit Engine 2 and Exit Fate. Other than that, uh... I suppose someone else here can help 
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Apr 17, 2011 07:01
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Evoq posted:Can anyone suggest a good RPG that isnt some crapfest JRPG or some worthless shat-out RPGMaker game? Preferably nothing from the 90s (2d/isometrics are fine as long as the interface and visuals arent trash) since Ive played em all and dont care to put up with them again. Ive played all the usual suspects/popular RPGs and am just trying to find something Ive overlooked, some crazy Eastern European RPG that Ive never heard of, or RPG-lites like Deus Ex, only good. Id like to stay away from fantasy but thats like asking a blind man to get you water in the desert. If Deus Ex counts, than may I recommend Alpha Protocol?
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Apr 17, 2011 07:15
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Evoq posted:Can anyone suggest a good RPG that isnt some crapfest JRPG or some worthless shat-out RPGMaker game? Preferably nothing from the 90s (2d/isometrics are fine as long as the interface and visuals arent trash) since Ive played em all and dont care to put up with them again. Ive played all the usual suspects/popular RPGs and am just trying to find something Ive overlooked, some crazy Eastern European RPG that Ive never heard of, or RPG-lites like Deus Ex, only good. Id like to stay away from fantasy but thats like asking a blind man to get you water in the desert. If you haven't played them, you might want to check out the two Eschalon games - they're 2D isometric RPGs, but they're fun games. They both have large, non-linear worlds to explore too and are very reminiscent of the Exile/Avernum games, but with one character instead of an entire party.
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Apr 17, 2011 07:23
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Doc Hawkins posted:If Deus Ex counts, than may I recommend Alpha Protocol? Was that actually any good? I heard mixed things... It's dirt cheap on Amazon but the user-review thing (star rating) is incredibly low!
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Apr 17, 2011 12:05
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The parts where you have to walk around and shoot people aren't very good (not terrible either, though) but the RPG stuff like conversations and how you can change the outcome of the story are phenomenal. Definitely recommended.
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Apr 17, 2011 12:19
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Evoq posted:Can anyone suggest a good RPG that isnt some crapfest JRPG or some worthless shat-out RPGMaker game? Preferably nothing from the 90s (2d/isometrics are fine as long as the interface and visuals arent trash) since Ive played em all and dont care to put up with them again. Ive played all the usual suspects/popular RPGs and am just trying to find something Ive overlooked, some crazy Eastern European RPG that Ive never heard of, or RPG-lites like Deus Ex, only good. Id like to stay away from fantasy but thats like asking a blind man to get you water in the desert. Crazy Easter European RPG eh? Divine Divnity 1/2? Not Beyond Divinity though as I didn't really like that one. Two worlds? Space Rangers? Not your typical RPG but it has some RPG elements. Think Elite in 2D with some Turn Based combat. Lurchibles posted:Was that actually any good? I heard mixed things... It's dirt cheap on Amazon but the user-review thing (star rating) is incredibly low! It is your typical Obisidian game where the mechanics are somewhat terrible (the first section is really really bad) but the writing and the actual differences in the plot as you make your choices are well done. I thought it was a 'good' game overall since while the Saudi part was god-awful the areas after that and the actual changes you can/will do to the world was second to none.
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Apr 17, 2011 12:26
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Lurchibles posted:Was that actually any good? I heard mixed things... It's dirt cheap on Amazon but the user-review thing (star rating) is incredibly low! the combat is poo poo, the RPG gameplay abstractions are decent, and the writing is fantastic
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Apr 17, 2011 12:28
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Lurchibles posted:Was that actually any good? I heard mixed things... It's dirt cheap on Amazon but the user-review thing (star rating) is incredibly low! The shooting leaves a bit to be desired (never had any problems with it myself), and the first section in Saudi Arabia's a bit of a slog, but after that, the game is AMAZING. There's a reason the AP thread still has spoilers, and the ME2 thread doesn't. Trust me, it's possible to play the game 5 times and still come up with new poo poo, and it's the only current game I know of that actually allows you to ROLEPLAY, and no matter what your choices, or how you play (Calm Sociopath Shotgun Thorton gets different dialogue/choices than Stealthy Snarker Thorton), you'll never have to feel left out, unlike ME's 'No Renegade? No Paragon? No Reward!' playstyle.
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Apr 17, 2011 16:03
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TheOriginalEd posted:I plowed everything in the game and the Cloud of Darkness killed my party in 2 rounds. I put the game down and never went back... I'm pretty sure your supposed to loss in that fight, than a scene happens and you come back stronger. I may be getting it confused with 4 though, I played those back to back.
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Apr 17, 2011 16:28
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I got Lunar: Silver Star Harmony off the PSN (19.99, not bad), and it feels so good to be playing this again. I'm actually amazed how much of the game I remember since I last played it when the PSX version was new, right down to individual townsfolk having familiar dialogue. The new graphics are really nice, and I certainly don't mind dungeons being smaller and thus less of a drag.
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Apr 17, 2011 16:48
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The game seemed promising to me (never played it before, had great reviews) but the battle loading times was atrocious, also when you click the auto-battle option the AI is just retarded, stop using MP-attacks on easy enemies!
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Apr 17, 2011 17:01
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Yeah, Alpha Protocol doesn't exactly have exceptional gameplay, but it totally fulfills the RP part of RPG better than pretty much any game I've played. Seriously worth a look. Other than that, I've played a couple decent RPGs lately. Dragon Knight Saga for PC, and Radiant Historia for DS. Dragon Knight Saga is a freeroaming RPG (Gothic style, not Oblivion) with a gigantic handcrafted world to explore with lots of secrets, shitloads of unique equipment and abilities, and tons of stuff to do. Also you can turn into a dragon and shoot fireballs at things, and read the mind of any NPC. It's not really innovative, but it totally excels at being a freeroaming Gothic-style RPG and is worth plenty of hours of entertainment. Radiant Historia is a 2D JRPG that looks pretty generic at first glance but is probably one of the best RPGs I've ever played. The plot and gameplay heavily revolve around time travel; there's this genius system where you can revisit literally any point in the plot, try to change something, and see how it affects the future. It feels like a spiritual sequel to Chrono Trigger. The battle system is also one of the most fun I've seen in a JRPG. Enemies show up on a 3x3 grid and a big focus is manipulating their position on the grid or using moves that hit a row or column or what have you to maximize your damage output. It's also got a FFX style turn based system where you can see the succession of turns, except you can swap turns with other party members or even enemies in order to provide yourself with a bunch of turns in a row to you can bust out a big combo. It feels like the essence of a tactical game distilled into an RPG battle. You can also skip every single bit of dialogue or cutscene if you so choose. Seriously a good game, and I generally hate what the JRPG genre has turned into.
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casual poster posted:The game seemed promising to me (never played it before, had great reviews) but the battle loading times was atrocious, also when you click the auto-battle option the AI is just retarded, stop using MP-attacks on easy enemies! This won't help you now if you've already bought the UMD, but the PSN version's load times are improved. Battle load is perfectly fine (never even noticed it), but entering a house takes a few seconds too many. I have the same complaint about the AI, but you can also set up pre-planned tactics if you want everyone to do a specific thing without telling them individually.
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Doc Hawkins posted:If Deus Ex counts, than may I recommend Alpha Protocol? Played it, loved it, want to destroy Sega for not funding a sequel/prequel. sexual rickshaw posted:If you haven't played them, you might want to check out the two Eschalon games - they're 2D isometric RPGs, but they're fun games. They both have large, non-linear worlds to explore too and are very reminiscent of the Exile/Avernum games, but with one character instead of an entire party. Im liking the look of these. The side panel is kinda  but the screenshots give me that real old school cRPG vibe.Lurchibles posted:Was that actually any good? I heard mixed things... It's dirt cheap on Amazon but the user-review thing (star rating) is incredibly low! The combat is based all around stealth gameplay. Its really played best with pistols since they can be silenced (although it makes some boss fights hard as gently caress). The SMGs and rifles are more gimmicky but are pretty fun for a 2nd and 3rd playthrough (you unlock two difficulties with unique stories after you beat the game) after you get a grip for the combat. member001 posted:Crazy Easter European RPG eh? Ive played Space Rangers but couldnt really get into it, and Ive been wanting to try Two Worlds but dont know if I should just jump into the 2nd game or grab the first, first. Story isnt a huge issue unless its gonna be some absolute epic journey thing. Thanks guys.
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Apr 17, 2011 18:54
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So I just finished Exit Fate (having missed it the first time around due to not being in an rpg mood at the time), and while it certainly has its fair share of flaws, I have to say that for a game made by one dude and released for free, it's pretty loving amazingly well designed and put-together. Color me thoroughly impressed.
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Apr 17, 2011 18:55
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I'll probably get a lot of poo poo for asking this, but are the console versions of any of the Eastern Europeon Oblivion-esque RPGS worth playing? Risen, Arcania, Divinity 2, Two Worlds 2, or any other I'm not thinking of? Or should I just wait until I have a better computer to try these? I put a ton of time into Oblivion on the 360, so I can put up with some unpatchable jank.
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Apr 17, 2011 18:57
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Also speaking of nothing in particular except I think someone mentioned the game a couple of pages upthread, the battle theme from oreshika is pretty awesome.
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Can I get some tips on Eschalon: Book 1? Am i supposed to ignore sidequests at the beginning of the game, because anything besides Salamanders tears my Heavy Armor fighter up. Can only afford a cheap shield and 1 piece of armor to start. Thugs on the way to finding the Sextant for the drunk at the tavern or Slimes in the Wine Cellar for the blacksmiths quest just swarm me
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Which is better: King's Bounty: The Legend or Armored Princess? I hear Armored Princess is better gameplay-wise but worse story-wise.
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Apr 17, 2011 21:58
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eyebrow posted:Which is better: King's Bounty: The Legend or Armored Princess? I hear Armored Princess is better gameplay-wise but worse story-wise. Whoever told you it is worse story wise is a dumbass, because no one plays those games for the story.
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Apr 17, 2011 22:19
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Yeah the stories aren't really noteworthy at all. AP has better balanced out a lot of things, but I personally much prefer The Legend's area layouts and overall pacing better.
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