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o3o posted:Wow God forbid someone has a different opinion than you about something! Look at that wall of text. Please keep telling the internet all about how your ideals and opinions of art are the only true and valid ones and anyone who disagrees with you should shut up and never speak their mind ever! What a weird reaction considering that the presentation was pretty much that: a one hour long speech about how his ideals and opinions of art are the only true and valid ones and that the artists who don't fit his criteria are not only beneath his consideration but also that their collective work is indistinguishable from actual garbage. o3o posted:Edit: By the way, he refers to "modern art" as anything that was made after the late 1860s, which is not incorrect. He isn't being technical and naming any particular movements because the presentation is meant to be understood by everyone, not just by those who have studied art history. The work of Damien Hirst and some of the other artists he showed doesn't fall under the category of modern art. Whether or not some of his intended audience knows this doesn't matter since it's still incorrect. o3o posted:Also the fact that you think photography has replaced traditional figurative painting really shows how ignorant you are so I'm not sure why I'm even responding to your nonsense. That's not really what I said, but what StrangersInTheNight posted is pretty much what I was awkwardly getting at.
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M_Sinistrari posted:Not sure if it's already been posted, but Dream Deceivers has stuck with me since I caught it on PBS as a fluke back in the early 90s. This whole thing just stinks of greed and diverting blame. It's hard to understand a parent that would try and sue a rock band because they didn't raise their child very well. Both children were from broken homes. The farther of James Vance talks of having an alcohol problem and how he proudly punched his son three times when he caught him smoking weed. But yeah, it's the band's fault. 
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Witness: Disaster in Japan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cpXZa6U8lo I don't think I need to describe this but just in case: it's about the quake/tsunami and it's all cellphone footage. There is a lot of new footage, but just a warning, they show a few bodies too so if you can't stomach that, don't watch it. (sorry if it's been posted, my eyes kind of glazed over the whole art argument so I might have missed it)
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Guys, I have zero interest in discussing modern art with you. I've been in this business long enough to know how to pick my battles, and internet arguments are pointless. You're free to carry on with your  , though. I'm sure Massow is reading your posts and either weeping quietly or laughing hysterically.I apologize to everyone else, for the ridiculous derail that my post caused. Anyway, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUTcwqR4Q4Y -- Dr. Money and the Boy with No Penis I'm not sure if this has been posted or not, it's about a boy who lost his penis as a baby and was brought up as a girl. It doesn't end well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFyxVXvzIvo - Back from the Dead quote:Dr Kevin Fong investigates a pioneering technique of extreme cooling that is being used to bring people back from the dead. Very interesting stuff.
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One of the guys who made the awesome documentary Restrepo was killed yesterday in Libya  quote:Hetherington was killed on 20 April 2011 while covering the front lines in the besieged city of Misrata, Libya. There appears to be uncertainty whether he was killed by a mortar shell or a RPG round. The same attack also killed photographer Chris Hondros and gravely wounded photographer Guy Martin. A source said that the group was travelling with rebel fighters. Hetherington tweeted the previous day, "In besieged Libyan city of Misrata. Indiscriminate shelling by Qaddafi forces. No sign of NATO". http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/20/tim-hetherington-chris-hondros-killed-libya_n_851558.html
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buyable posted:I think there are just some people who would be better suited as mathematicians or something instead of artists. They can't comprehend any way to value art outside of technicality, so they dismiss everything that wasn't obviously slaved over for 300 hours with impeccable linework or whatever as garbage. I know there are impressive pieces of modern art out there; hell, my government tries to pass a bill to only fund "traditional" art and not postmodern art, and I've often ranted about how goddamned insane that is. That said, some of the modern pieces he showed are, at least to me, absolutely terrible and I can't fathom what they have to do in an art museum. The blue canvas, for example. The ridiculous rant about how it's actually a great piece of work just made it worse - it's still a blue canvas. Is there some deeper meaning here I'm missing? The praise for it made me think of someone trying really, really hard to figure out a valid reason to put that thing on the wall and coming up with utterly random nonsense. ETA 53 seconds to the "well you JUST DON'T GET THE GENIUS OF THE BLUE CANVAS  "-response..
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Dangerous Knowledge is a BBC documentary about the lives of four very famous mathematicians whose discoveries changed the world - and how the very same knowledge drove them all to tragic deaths. I really enjoyed this documentary and I'd suggest people check it out, apparently it's going away on 29 April so you should download while you can! Part 2.
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Hoodrich posted:Dangerous Knowledge is a BBC documentary about the lives of four very famous mathematicians whose discoveries changed the world - and how the very same knowledge drove them all to tragic deaths. I really enjoyed this documentary and I'd suggest people check it out, apparently it's going away on 29 April so you should download while you can! Part 2. Pipski posted that two pages ago.  reality_groove posted:If you're in the UK this is being shown on More4 this Tuesday under the name "Valley of the Dolls". poo poo, I missed that! VVVV Edit: Hail thee! LawrenceOfHerLabia fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Apr 22, 2011 |
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LawrenceOfHerLabia posted:Pipski posted that two pages ago. Its streaming on 4od: http://www.channel4.com/programmes/village-of-the-dolls/4od#3184727
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Dropbear posted:I know there are impressive pieces of modern art out there; hell, my government tries to pass a bill to only fund "traditional" art and not postmodern art, and I've often ranted about how goddamned insane that is. Well the short response is that yes there is a deeper meaning. Generally we're used to associate the meaning of art with not only the subject matter but the skill involved. The reaction that, once the perception of skill is removed, the art becomes worthless really doesn't speak well of someone's knowledge of art. I'm not a master of modern art by any means, but to really understand it it takes a good bit of art history to see what it's born OUT of. Why did Modern Art evolve? How was it born? What was it a reaction to? The technical mastery of the piece isn't irrelevant, but it's hardly as contributing as art that came before it. Modern Art isn't modern because it "looks" modern. Modern art is a REACTION to art. It has a very important, hilariously awesome at times, and worthwhile history. BonoMan fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Apr 22, 2011 |
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A History of the World in 100 Objects is an awesome series that was broadcast on BBC Radio 4 recently. It's a series of ten to fifteen minute documentaries about 100 different historical artifacts and is generally a pretty nifty series with some cool insight on stuff you don't hear much about, like Persian royal banners and ancient Chinese bowls. It's also much more interesting than 'Persian royal banners and ancient Chinese bowls' makes it sound. It's now available as a podcast so listen to it now now now. http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/ahow/all
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Diary (2010)quote:'Diary' is a highly personal and experimental film that expresses the subjective experience of my work, and was made as an attempt to locate myself after ten years of reporting. It's a kaleidoscope of images that link our western reality to the seemingly distant worlds we see in the media. If you have 20 minutes to sink into something, give this a watch: http://vimeo.com/18497543 It's a personal short film about war reporting, and the photojournalist who uploaded it a few months ago, Tim Hetherington, was killed in Libya on Wednesday. There's so many jaw-dropping things in it that capture a tiny bit of the experience of war-torn parts of the world that we don't normally see or take notice of. When you read a brief, objective stub in the newspaper or listen to a TV news voiceover - drowning in facts and empty place-names - you get no sense of what's at stake when "unrest" grips Liberia, or "clashes" result in 20 deaths in Sudan, or 400 women are raped in the Congo. Yeah, if they mentioned Philadelphia or Toronto or Manchester, hearing this type of news might be a bit more visceral/emotional - we'd take more notice - but what about Deraa, Misrata, and Abyei? Where? Who gives a gently caress, right? Yet when you watch this video - when you see a teenager holding a gun to another kid's head saying that he's going to "execute", or some of the school-aged girls and boys* either armed to the teeth or trapped in hopelessly lovely lives - it floors you. It's so raw compared to the experience of sitting in a taxi or on a train hearing a monotone voice describing some of the terrible poo poo that happened that day in Africa or the Middle East. There's such a terrifying disconnect between the actual experience of war in far off places and how we view and think about them in the comfort of our relatively ordinary lives. And, of course, the film is haunting knowing that the guy died on Wednesday. That he put this all together - even the phone messages from his wife - a few months before all of this violence finally caught up with him. He also helped make a full-length documentary about US troops in Afghanistan called Restrepo, which I haven't seen yet.
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I am fascinated by small religious groups like the Shakers, Quakers, Amish, etc. I was wondering if anyone knows of some interesting docus about small religious groups? Here is Ken Burns' America: The Shakers, available for instant watch on Netflix: http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Ken-Burns-America-The-Shakers/60028215#height1525
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Bijoux Bunny posted:
You should probably do this soon, it is brutal at times but I watch it about once every two weeks.
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I was just poking around the National Film Board website and came across a half-hour documentary I really liked. It's called Whistling Smith, was made in 1975, and follows a thirty year Vancouver police veteran around his beat on the economically depressed (then and now) East Hastings Street. Not really much else to say, it's a jaded old school police sergeant doing what he does for a half hour, and I thought it was a good watch. Not sure if non-Canadians can view it, but the whole movie is here.
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Herpus posted:A History of the World in 100 Objects is an awesome series that was broadcast on BBC Radio 4 recently. It's a series of ten to fifteen minute documentaries about 100 different historical artifacts and is generally a pretty nifty series with some cool insight on stuff you don't hear much about, like Persian royal banners and ancient Chinese bowls. It's also much more interesting than 'Persian royal banners and ancient Chinese bowls' makes it sound. It's now available as a podcast so listen to it now now now. This is awesome, I listened to them all when they came out. It also contains some very clever people speaking in very soothing voices. Beware if listening to it in traffic after a long day as you could easily nod off. Probably already been mentioned but the In Our Time podcast from the bbc is also very good. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/in-our-time/
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Wastebasket posted:I am fascinated by small religious groups like the Shakers, Quakers, Amish, etc. I was wondering if anyone knows of some interesting docus about small religious groups? I am 9/10ths sure that: http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/The_Amish_A_People_of_Preservation/70028005?trkid=496624#height1422 Is the documentary on the Amish I saw that I liked a lot. I may be wrong but I'm fairly sure it was good. For some reason a whole lot of people hate the Amish, so for some reason it seems one in four Amish documentary is like 'aaah these evil people living a different life then me'.
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shotgunbadger posted:Every word in this post is wrong. No, just the general respect for that family sentiment.
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I hope no one has mentioned it, but they may have. Anyway, Crossing the Line is a documentary about US defectors to North Korea - they crossed the DMZ something like forty years ago and have been living in North Korea ever since. They tried to escape once, but were sent back. Here is a YouTube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHAMAwIWciA&feature=related and here is the netflix link, so you don't have to bother with the pesky parts: http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Crossing_the_Line/70059636?trkid=2361637 I love all documentaries North Korea, so I may be biased, but I thought it was pretty good.
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Rain In My Heart is a 2006 documentary about alcoholism. It follows 4 alcoholics from the hospital to their homes: Vanda, 43 Mark, 29 Nigel, 49 Toni, 26. It is quite distressing viewing at times and the fact that 2 of the 4 patients featured died during filming shows how serious, damaging and misunderstood this illness is. PART 1: http://www.youtube.com/v/NP0InrPZpjg PART 2: http://www.youtube.com/v/8Tcm3IDZ2ho PART 3: http://www.youtube.com/v/ISDRoVKH5D8 PART 4: http://www.youtube.com/v/ySypPv_L_Wg PART 5: http://www.youtube.com/v/udOntjDQ3Gg PART 6: http://www.youtube.com/v/bX7z41o_k04 PART 7: http://www.youtube.com/v/n9z3413-jqA PART 8: http://www.youtube.com/v/EhXUGB69ITs PART 9: http://www.youtube.com/v/GEj3wLwjG78 PART 10: http://www.youtube.com/v/EQdJ5vchsGs
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Wastebasket posted:I am fascinated by small religious groups like the Shakers, Quakers, Amish, etc. I was wondering if anyone knows of some interesting docus about small religious groups? Channel 4 in England is currently doing a series on Amish teenagers leaving their communities. http://www.channel4.com/programmes/amish-worlds-squarest-teenagers/4od mikewozere fucked around with this message at 10:24 on Apr 25, 2011 |
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Can anyone suggest anything similar to The Fog of War in terms of mood and message? I love the way that documentary is filmed, the music is amazing and McNamara was a very intelligent, honest and well spoken narrator which made it great. I even play The Fog of War on my computer while I'm doing other spreadsheet work because I really enjoy hearing the sound clips, the music and McNamara's reflections on his own life. I'm in the same boat as everyone else, Dear Zachary was beautiful but extremely depressing, any suggestions for something positive or with a good or insightful message?
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Feltch posted:Can anyone suggest anything similar to The Fog of War in terms of mood and message? I love the way that documentary is filmed, the music is amazing and McNamara was a very intelligent, honest and well spoken narrator which made it great. I even play The Fog of War on my computer while I'm doing other spreadsheet work because I really enjoy hearing the sound clips, the music and McNamara's reflections on his own life. The Most Dangerous Man in America: Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers is not as good but is shot in a very similar style.
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I really want to watch this documentary on gun rights called Gun Fight on HBO but I don't even have basic cable.
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Just want to say that if anyone is in the western parts of Norway the next week they can catch the Norwegian Documentary Film Festival. it is about 85% norwegian films, but also features international film makers. It costs  and after that you can catch as many films that you can.http://dokfilm.no/eng/information-2/
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I Like Killing Flies was awesome. Whoever recommended it, thank you, and I'll recommend it as well. It was great.
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Red Fructidor posted:Wait so is Google Video just completely going away? Is there any way we could update the OP with docs on Google before they're all nixed in the next week? Here are some of the google video ones from this thread that I've bookmarked to watch, in case you're interested. Philosophy, Physics, Mathematics - “Dangerous Knowledge” http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5122859998068380459 Guns Germs and Steel http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4008293090480628280 Story of 1 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1957179570191443503&ei=TSZiSouvMcLH-Qau-4X2AQ&q=story+of+1 Armin Meiwes http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1299254578438715427&hl=en A History of God http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-206887275399093528 The Lost World of Communism http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5302179309927381360 Bulgaria's Abandoned Children http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=944239315372248151 Unrepentant: Kevin Annett and Canada's Genocide http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6637396204037343133 However, after I finished making this list I was looking up how to download google videos and apparently there is no deadline any more. Not sure how useful my list is now! Here is the article http://www.pcworld.com/article/226192/google_changes_video_migration_plans.html
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Sorry if this has been posted before (37 pages) but do do do do watch The Power of Nightmares. If it's been posted before then I'm just reencouraging (word?) you to watch it. Political documentary on the effect of struassianism on the neo- and radical islamists in the world today. If you're not convinced, watch the first 3 minutes. It will change the way you look at the world. Available on: archive.org. The full thing, 3 1 hour shows. P.S. How about a documentary of the week in the O.P? Rockybar fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Apr 25, 2011 |
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I just finished watching this really good documentary. You can find it on netflix, but I'm not sure if it is available anywhere else. If someone else locates it, the link would be greatly appreciated. Girl 27 Patricia was a 17 year old dancer when she was raped at a MGM sales party in 1937. Everyone involved in the case did everything they possibly could to make sure no one knew her name or her story. It's a documentary about loss, corruption, coverup, and the ruining of a life. Very compelling, not at all a happy ending, but a good, stark look at the horrors humans perpetrate on one another. She did not ever receive her legal vindication, and the lifelong scars she carried with her really hurt the life of her daughter. I'm not going to go more into her daughter's story, but you know what they say about victims being victimized repeatedly. Well, it sure seems to be true. I'm going to apologize in advance if that doesn't make much sense, I'm pretty sleepy.
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Such a great thread, been reading it for weeks! Thanks for all the great docs, no thanks to the boring arguments! Regarding Google Video, I didn't see this update posted and I see people asking about it still. In short the April 29th date for them shutting it down is gone! quote:Google Video users can rest assured that they won't be losing any of their content and we are eliminating the April 29 deadline. We will be working to automatically migrate your Google Videos to YouTube. In the meantime, your videos hosted on Google Video will remain accessible on the web and existing links to Google Videos will remain accessible http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2011/04/update-on-google-video-finding-easier.html I don't have a link but I've found some good docs browsing http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/watch-online/
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Henry Chinaski posted:Rain In My Heart is a 2006 documentary about alcoholism. I wish there was a way of forcing every booze-sodden journo who writes a story about killer cannabis to watch this. Very sad stuff.
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There only appears to be one episode on video.google.com of the Lost World of Communism. You can get a more complete listing on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=4471B3054312065C
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nyxie posted:Here are some of the google video ones from this thread that I've bookmarked to watch, in case you're interested. Oh awesome, I haven't seen most of these, thanks a lot. And for the good news! I was trying to triage which ones I had to get in before the deadline.
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Gah. Never mind. I was continuing a derail. Back to your regularly scheduled thread... Effingham fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Apr 27, 2011 |
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Rockybar posted:Sorry if this has been posted before (37 pages) but do do do do watch The Power of Nightmares. If it's been posted before then I'm just reencouraging (word?) you to watch it. Political documentary on the effect of struassianism on the neo- and radical islamists in the world today. If you're not convinced, watch the first 3 minutes. Saw that one. I have things to say about it, but I avoid any discussion about Bush or Obama like the plague because nobody is ever rational about this topic.
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Henry Chinaski posted:Rain In My Heart is a 2006 documentary about alcoholism. This is really good, thank you. If you've not watched it, it's well worth the hour and a half. Once I'd become used to it, I liked the editing style, with the repeated phrases and scenes. It's also quite old, as at one point they mention George Best being alive, and he's been dead six years, so I went looking for an update. It appears that Vanda has since died too. Of all of them, that was the person I was rooting for most, and the one where you saw what could have been had things been slightly different.
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This thread made my day. Completely forgot about ted talks and its accessable via the work network. Life in the call center is complete.
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Sneep posted:I hope no one has mentioned it, but they may have. Anyway, Crossing the Line is a documentary about US defectors to North Korea - they crossed the DMZ something like forty years ago and have been living in North Korea ever since. They tried to escape once, but were sent back. Chiming in to say this was a great watch. Dresnok's reasons for defecting, and his experiences during and after that, are fascinating to think about. I was surprised to learn a man had defected to NK, but the documentary tells of the four men who defected, all within 18 months if I remember right. Their lives there and personality clashes play out like a great drama. I have a soft spot for North Korea documentaries too, but this will be a good watch for anyone interested in US-Korea history or defection in general. On another note, I have one episode left in Wonders of the Universe with Brian Cox, which is amazing if you liked Wonders of the Solar System (can't find a link right now) or astronomy/cosmology in general. Cox is a great presenter and the CG sequences are impressive (no HD in this upload unfortunately).
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Marwencol was great. Friday I'm making donations both to Mark and to the people who produced the film.
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a 16 year old girl posted:This thing is terrible and so offensively narrow-minded that I'm gonna rant about it with a whole bunch of dumb words. Beautifully said. Good art just aint about the pretty. For me, it should make the viewer contemplate and ask what is the concept behind the piece. Why is Minimalism about pure geometric shapes? What was Rothko trying to do with his work?
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