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Rapey Joe Stalin posted:Why the hell is the Stormlight Archive £8.99 on Kindle ? That's more than a paperback and twice the common price for a kindle book. Odds are you can find the words THIS PRICE IS SET BY THE PUBLISHER somewhere on the page.
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It's not out in mass market paperback yet, that's end of May. It's cheaper that the Dec 30 2010 paperback that's up on amazon.co.uk for £9.69. I'd expect the price on the Kindle flavor to drop around May 26 or so. Has anybody compared the Kindle version to the print version, specifically around the interior art? I've only done the audiobook so far and was looking to see some of the art inside the book people have spoken about...
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Apr 19, 2011 14:56
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fordan posted:It's not out in mass market paperback yet, that's end of May. It's cheaper that the Dec 30 2010 paperback that's up on amazon.co.uk for £9.69. I'd expect the price on the Kindle flavor to drop around May 26 or so. I haven't compared it, but the Kindle version does have alot of art in it, mostly in between chapter breaks.
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Apr 19, 2011 15:26
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Skapegoat posted:Didn't Raoden and most of his gang become shiny haired, shiny skinned gods towards the end of Elantris? I don't doubt that the people looking for Hoid are from the Elantris world (forgot the name), but they probably wern't Raoden or any of the main characters from Elantris. they can disguise themselves no? The suggestion being the closer the disguise to 'normal' the less likely anyone would discover it? treeboy fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Apr 19, 2011 |
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Apr 19, 2011 18:09
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fordan posted:It's not out in mass market paperback yet, that's end of May. It's cheaper that the Dec 30 2010 paperback that's up on amazon.co.uk for £9.69. I'd expect the price on the Kindle flavor to drop around May 26 or so. I have both hard back and Kindle (I went to a signing and got that and ToM signed, otherwise I would only have the Kindle version). It has all the art, it's really well done too. Maps are really the only thing that aren't so hot on the Kindle, they can be hard to read.
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Apr 20, 2011 06:52
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subx posted:I have both hard back and Kindle (I went to a signing and got that and ToM signed, otherwise I would only have the Kindle version). I just finished the Kindle version yesterday, and I was similarly impressed with the conversion to e-book. Usually most of the art and such is left out, I thought it was a nice touch that they included it. I had never heard of Sanderson before, and read TWoK on a whim. Now I really want to start the Mistborn trilogy as well. If Sanderson is able to fulfill the promise of TWoK with the rest of his Stormlight Archives series, we're in for one hell of a ride. I'm pretty hooked, and while Dalinar's POV started out pretty slow, by the last third of the book I was really engaged with his story as well as Kaladin's. I had a bit of trouble staying engaged with Shallan, but it sounds like her POV is about to get much more interesting. I have to agree with the others though that the flashback chapters hurt the flow of the story. I'm hoping that we see less of those as the series progresses.
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Apr 21, 2011 18:57
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paradigmblue posted:I had never heard of Sanderson before, and read TWoK on a whim. Now I really want to start the Mistborn trilogy as well. I'm finishing up a re-read of the Mistborn trilogy now in anticipation of Alloy of Law and it's still pretty good, and really great in a lot of places. Also, the "Sanderson Avalanche" is by now a well-documented effect.
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Apr 21, 2011 19:53
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arioch posted:I'm finishing up a re-read of the Mistborn trilogy now in anticipation of Alloy of Law and it's still pretty good, and really great in a lot of places. Well he only has like 6 books (minus WoT), so currently it's not too hard to get caught up on all his works. If he continues at this pace, in 20 years a "Sanderson Avalanche" will take like 2 years to read through.
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Apr 22, 2011 06:54
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subx posted:Well he only has like 6 books (minus WoT), so currently it's not too hard to get caught up on all his works. If he continues at this pace, in 20 years a "Sanderson Avalanche" will take like 2 years to read through. But the payoffs will by that time actually give people strokes and heart attacks.
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Started Mistborn, about...gently caress I have no idea how many pages in I am. Kindle edition with no page numbers.  He just robbed the estate. Really digging it so far. You can tell it's an earlier effort by him, as the writing isn't as good as in the WoT, but it's not bad at all. As many have said, it's refreshing to read a world where magic is so originally done. I like it. So far, looking forward to seeing what's next!
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Apr 24, 2011 07:28
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edit: ooops, this post belongs in the Abercrombie thread.
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Apr 24, 2011 09:49
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A Nice Boy posted:Started Mistborn, about...gently caress I have no idea how many pages in I am. Kindle edition with no page numbers. When you're done with all three, you should read his annotations on his website. He foreshadows the ending of the series from the very beginning. It's impressive how much thought went into it. I suppose that you could read them now, as anything not hidden by a huge, red SPOILER button is safe and won't spoiler anything that hasn't already happened. But if you're anything like me, you wouldn't be able to resist clicking those big red SPOILER buttons and then you'd be sad. So don't do it. That fight in the estate is one he talks about specifically as being too technical and expository, but he couldn't find a better way to convey Allomancy as performed by a Mistborn in a better way.
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Apr 24, 2011 13:38
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threeagainstfour posted:edit: ooops, this post belongs in the Abercrombie thread. Sorry you posted in this thread, now you have to go buy and read Mistborn.
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Apr 24, 2011 14:34
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ConfusedUs posted:That fight in the estate is one he talks about specifically as being too technical and expository, but he couldn't find a better way to convey Allomancy as performed by a Mistborn in a better way. Can't fault him too much for that because it sets up one of the climactic fights of the novel so drat well.
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Apr 24, 2011 17:18
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'Skapegoat" posted:
Their powers decrease significantly the farther they get from Elantris, which serves as a giant power-amplification spell, so I don't see them world-hopping. They couldn't teleport back from Theod? or wherever at the end of the book because it was too far away for the spell to work.
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Apr 24, 2011 22:45
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wallaka posted:Their powers decrease significantly the farther they get from Elantris, which serves as a giant power-amplification spell, so I don't see them world-hopping. They couldn't teleport back from Theod? or wherever at the end of the book because it was too far away for the spell to work. They would have to figure out how the other nations managed to tap into AonDor without the benefit of Elantris. Not that I think this group are the characters from Elantris.
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Apr 25, 2011 03:36
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arioch posted:They would have to figure out how the other nations managed to tap into AonDor without the benefit of Elantris. Even if they figured out how to tap AonDor from other countries, it straight up wouldn't work outside of their world. Even if they found a way to travel from world to world (and I'm sure they're be able to, given how malleable Aons are) it would be a one way trip, and it would probably kill them to be cut off from AonDor. I just finished re-reading Elantris, and I don't see any reason why the elantrians would be going after Hoid anyway. He was acting as a beggar in that book too, unless I missed something.
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Apr 25, 2011 12:57
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senae posted:Even if they figured out how to tap AonDor from other countries, it straight up wouldn't work outside of their world. Even if they found a way to travel from world to world (and I'm sure they're be able to, given how malleable Aons are) it would be a one way trip, and it would probably kill them to be cut off from AonDor. Regarding the one way trip theory, we know that the Hoid we keep seeing is the same character, so obviously he has some ability that is independent of location. Possibly they 'leapt' after him and are in fact stuck and therefore looking for him to figure out how to get back? We also don't know the exact timeline. If it were Raoden (and i'm not convinced, I just thought it was an interesting theory) it could be Raoden twenty years after the events of Elantris. Also i can't find a source but I want to say that Brandon said we'd met some of the other characters in TWoK before. I'll see if i can confirm that or I'm just imagining it. treeboy fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Apr 26, 2011 |
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Apr 26, 2011 03:10
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I finished the Mistborn trilogy over the Easter weekend and liked it a lot. It was the first thing I've read by him (always dismissed him as "the WoT-guy" - never got into WoT -, until John Scalzi praised him quite a bit). Great plot and twists, good characters and I liked the rather unique world (Mordor at the North Pole is a bit different from your usual Europe-blend map) and it only had some minor things I didn't like (like the already mentioned drag at the start of book 2). I wasn't really surprised to read in his excellent Annotations that he is a religious man, the lack of curse words and sex and the musings on faith were a pretty strong giveaway. Doesn't matter for me, even if I have completely opposite views, since he doesn't come off as preachy or fundamentalist (Even if the most faithful man in the book ends up as god.  It is quite fitting for Sazed after all.).
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Decius posted:I wasn't really surprised to read in his excellent Annotations that he is a religious man, the lack of curse words and sex and the musings on faith were a pretty strong giveaway. Doesn't matter for me, even if I have completely opposite views, since he doesn't come off as preachy or fundamentalist (Even if the most faithful man in the book ends up as god. At the same time, though, (major Mistborn spoilers) Sazed realized his entire faith was a lie, perverted by Ruin over the course of centuries. That says to me that he's not going to be the sort of author who will try to use his books to convert people to his faith. I personally really appreciate that since the authors who do try to promote their views through their writing usually end up either annoying me because I disagree with them or bore me to tears because I already hold the same viewpoint and want them to just get on with the story.
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Apr 26, 2011 07:33
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treeboy posted:Regarding the one way trip theory, we know that the Hoid we keep seeing is the same character, so obviously he has some ability that is independent of location. Possibly they 'leapt' after him and are in fact stuck and therefore looking for him to figure out how to get back? Maybe the Hoid we see in Way of Kings isn't the same Hoid we see in the other books. In Way of Kings he did say he stole the name.
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Apr 26, 2011 16:18
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Streebs posted:Maybe the Hoid we see in Way of Kings isn't the same Hoid we see in the other books. In Way of Kings he did say he stole the name. I'm pretty sure Sanderson has said it's the same guy/world.
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Apr 26, 2011 17:03
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IRQ posted:I'm pretty sure Sanderson has said it's the same guy/world. Yea, I remember reading something about all his books taking place in the same world just 1000's of years apart.
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Apr 26, 2011 17:11
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Streebs posted:Maybe the Hoid we see in Way of Kings isn't the same Hoid we see in the other books. In Way of Kings he did say he stole the name. The "new" Hoid is described as a younger man whereas the other Hoids are old beggars/storyteller types. But that isn't overly strange considering Hoid seems to be in the same league as Ruin/Preservation/Aona/Skai/Sazed/Odium/etc. and is basically a god. (The "new" Hoid says he took the name from someone he loved. So that's kind of odd.)
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Apr 26, 2011 18:12
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Decius posted:I finished the Mistborn trilogy over the Easter weekend and liked it a lot. It was the first thing I've read by him (always dismissed him as "the WoT-guy" - never got into WoT -, until John Scalzi praised him quite a bit). Great plot and twists, good characters and I liked the rather unique world (Mordor at the North Pole is a bit different from your usual Europe-blend map) and it only had some minor things I didn't like (like the already mentioned drag at the start of book 2). Going beyond that, a theme in all of his books (beside WoT and Stormlight) is that organized religion is often corruptible, or corrupted. If I didn't know any better I'd say Sanderson was an Atheist. In Mistborn the only religion with religious truth in it was corrupted by ruin, I would say Elantris is more about Hrathens growing disenfranchisement with his religion, and the realization that his monolithic religious leader has been using his followers to do evil, and Warbreaker is about the priest upper class literally preventing their god from speaking to his own people. Sanderson is really the best kind of Mormon author: the kind that isn't anything like Card.
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Apr 26, 2011 20:52
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senae posted:Going beyond that, a theme in all of his books (beside WoT and Stormlight) is that organized religion is often corruptible, or corrupted. If I didn't know any better I'd say Sanderson was an Atheist. In Stormlight the Radiants, the angel analogues, give up on the war and told their people a lie about the war being over and that they finally won. Then the closest thing to a priesthood in that setting the Knights Radiant completely abandon their duties as well.
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Apr 26, 2011 21:17
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arioch posted:In Stormlight the Radiants, the angel analogues, give up on the war and told their people a lie about the war being over and that they finally won. Then the closest thing to a priesthood in that setting the Knights Radiant completely abandon their duties as well. Wasn't there a priesthood who tried to take over politics and were overthrown and that's why they can't own anything now?
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Apr 26, 2011 21:22
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Clinton1011 posted:Wasn't there a priesthood who tried to take over politics and were overthrown and that's why they can't own anything now? Yes, that too. Thought there's some hints that maybe they were on to something with their prophecies but didn't win that particular power struggle and got hushed the gently caress up. I'll chalk that up to a tentative "yes, another Sandersonian failed organized religion" until we get confirmation one way or the other.
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Apr 26, 2011 21:29
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Clinton1011 posted:Yea, I remember reading something about all his books taking place in the same world just 1000's of years apart. Given that his worlds have completely distinct deities/magic systems, they're clearly not the same world. What I've heard is (and I guess this is spoilerish for the end of Mistborn, they're all part of the same multiverse setting. Presevation, Desecration, Ruin, and so on all seem like potential members of a larger pantheon that got scattered and divided amongst different universes.
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^^^^^^^ Edit: Unless I'm misremembering, all of the worlds/universes were created by a single overdiety shattering itself into a bunch of different worlds with different rules. It kinda makes you think that the Lord Ruler might have been onto something with the "sliver of infinity" title, and Sazed strongly hinted to it at the end of misstborn.Mistborn spoiler Clinton1011 posted:Wasn't there a priesthood who tried to take over politics and were overthrown and that's why they can't own anything now? Actually, I just remembered them. They also tried to control the fabrial magic by saying it was tied to the armlets, but it isn't, you need to be born to it. Or maybe it is sometimes and isn't others, it's been a while since I read it. All I know is that main girl transmuted something without a fabrial near the end, and was seeing those nightmare fuel letter heads at the end. egg tats fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Apr 26, 2011 |
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Apr 26, 2011 22:03
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Velius posted:Given that his worlds have completely distinct deities/magic systems, they're clearly not the same world. What I've heard is (and I guess this is spoilerish for the end of Mistborn, they're all part of the same multiverse setting. Presevation, Desecration, Ruin, and so on all seem like potential members of a larger pantheon that got scattered and divided amongst different universes. I haven't read Warbreaker yet, but the others are relatively small settings that could just be isolated continents/time periods on the same world. The deities and magic systems don't seem mutually exclusive at this point.
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IRQ posted:I haven't read Warbreaker yet, but the others are relatively small settings that could just be isolated continents/time periods on the same world. Warbreaker and Elantris are the only two that could possibly overlap. Mistborn has the entire world covered in ash for 1000 years, with the entire population living on a single continent, and Stormlight has giant storms that ravage half the world, with robust trade towards the other half. and technically, we only know of one set of deities for sure, and that would be ruin/preservation from mistborn.
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senae posted:and technically, we only know of one set of deities for sure, and that would be ruin/preservation from mistborn. "met in actual stories" maybe Hoid refers to more deities/entities in his letter, in the Part 2 "bumps" in Way of Kings: Aona (Aon Dor), Skai (Skaze, also on Elantris somewhere), Rayse (Odium), Ati (Ruin)
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Apr 26, 2011 22:24
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senae posted:Warbreaker and Elantris are the only two that could possibly overlap. Mistborn has the entire world covered in ash for 1000 years, with the entire population living on a single continent, and Stormlight has giant storms that ravage half the world, with robust trade towards the other half. It's not exactly inconceivable that a continent wouldn't know the the others existed and might think the entire world revolved around their own little part of it.
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IRQ posted:It's not exactly inconceivable that a continent wouldn't know the the others existed and might think the entire world revolved around their own little part of it. The deities are omniscient in regard to the planets they're attached to, so that wouldn't be it either.
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arioch posted:The "new" Hoid is described as a younger man whereas the other Hoids are old beggars/storyteller types. Oh hey I just got to that bit in warbreaker and you're wrong (sorry). Warbreaker pg 374 posted:Siri rolled her eyes, but continued to eat the grape slices. The storyteller[hoid] waited patiently. As she looked more closely, she could tell that he wasn't quite as old as he seemed at first glance. The beard must be a badge of his profession, and while it didn't appear to be fake, she suspected that it had been bleached. He was really much younger then he wanted to appear. There's no reason to believe that he wasn't disguised in the other books, as well. I also don't really see how he's like a God when he admits to being from an order known to hop around the multiverse collecting stories, a la that one guy that knew him in WoK.
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paradigmblue posted:I have to agree with the others though that the flashback chapters hurt the flow of the story. I'm hoping that we see less of those as the series progresses. See, I really liked the flashbacks. A nice pause in the action to take a breather, and it helps flesh out the main character? What's not to like! Seriously, Kal's flashbacks were awesome, the chapters that hurt the flow the most were Shallan's, because they felt so disconnected from the rest of the action.
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IRQ posted:I haven't read Warbreaker yet, but the others are relatively small settings that could just be isolated continents/time periods on the same world. The worlds are named, Elantris- Sel Mistborn- Scadrial WoK- Roshar Warbreaker - ??? (I think it was mentioned, but I forgot it) The most telling evidence that the books take place on different worlds is that in his letter in WoK, Hoid mentions "One need only look at the aftermath of his brief visit to Sel to see proof of what I say." This shows that the Elantris world is a different place and is still around. Also, he's probably refering to the massive earthquake that caused the land to be deformed, causing the Shaod. <- Elantris spoiler
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Yeah I'm sure the ancient Chinese had a different word for earth than the Romans too... I think we may just all have to agree to disagree; you guys are dead set against the idea that they're the same world, but your arguments aren't at all convincing.
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IRQ posted:Yeah I'm sure the ancient Chinese had a different word for earth than the Romans too... Read some Sanderson interviews, he's explicitly stated it.
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