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I don't know how they drive on roads like that either. I switched to Steeda Sports and those only have a mild drop, like less than 1", and I have two new scrapes on the bottom of my front bumper. I can't imagine going for an even more severe drop like some people do. It's just not practical for the street, and it does crazy things to the suspension geometry. But all concepts are like that, with huge 24" flush wheels and pillbox-cockpits. I'm sure Ford will tone it down, but they're going to go past the current styling for something more contemporary. If "One Ford" is going to be applied to the Mustang, it's going to have a more global style with European elements, like it or not.
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Well gently caress me running. Just went and test drove a 2011 5.0 and I think I fell in love all over again. I'm looking at a V6/premium/performance pack in about a year, and the 5.0 was the only one the dealer had in stock to test drive. I grew up learning how to drive on my dad's 98 Cobra, and holy smokes it's a whole new freaking ballgame. Me and the missus both came away extremely impressed. She's even going to let me buy it come next year! We'll be cross-shopping the V6 with a Genesis Coupe V6 and a used 370Z, but right now, the 'Stang is definitely the front-runner. Driven the V6 Camaro and was pretty unimpressed, although we do like the exterior styling. The interior is just too drat cramped for me (6'3") and the visibility is loving terrible for me, but especially my wife (5'4").
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# ? Apr 23, 2011 05:54 |
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PT6A posted:How do you drive a car like that on the street? Even stock, I have to be careful to make sure my front end doesn't scrape when, for example, driving onto a ferry or driving out of a parking garage onto the street, to say nothing of scraping on any curbstone when parking (though that's really easily avoidable, of course). The Boss is only lowered 1 cm past that, but it wouldn't make an easy daily driver.
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# ? Apr 23, 2011 06:13 |
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Killbot posted:
The picture has nothing to do with Ford and is not a concept
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# ? Apr 23, 2011 08:20 |
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CharlesM posted:The picture has nothing to do with Ford and is not a concept I know, wasn't that obvious? But look at the previous concepts from Ford for the current S197 and you'll see the same large wheels and chopped roof. Hell look up the Giugiaro concept Ford let them build. I was just saying that I wouldn't be surprised if Ford went in a more modern, "european" direction. Hell the first Mustang in '64 was designed to look European.
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# ? Apr 23, 2011 11:01 |
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Yeah I thought it was obvious Your post was a bit ambiguous to me though.
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# ? Apr 23, 2011 13:00 |
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Now that car show season is almost upon us, I'd like to wash out the engine bay on my 5.0. What should I cover up and what should I avoid spraying?
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# ? Apr 25, 2011 05:39 |
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Offrampmotel posted:Now that car show season is almost upon us, I'd like to wash out the engine bay on my 5.0. What should I cover up and what should I avoid spraying? Fusebox, battery, alternator.
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# ? Apr 25, 2011 06:35 |
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PT6A posted:How do you drive a car like that on the street? And then apparently race like a motherfucker to the next one to make up for lost time. Repeat.
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# ? Apr 25, 2011 06:50 |
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Presto posted:Guy at the apartment complex I used to live at had a lowered Cobra. He was fine until the day they put in speed bumps. I happened to follow him in one day and saw how he did it. He had to creeeeep up to the bump at about a 45 degree angle and then ease the car ever so gently over it one wheel at a time. I used to have a Camaro with ground effects. I had to go into parking lots at a 45 degree angle, too. Fortunately the only speed bumps we have around here are potholes.
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# ? Apr 25, 2011 16:34 |
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Revolution Automotive goes 10.99 @ 124mph with a naturally aspirated, bolt-on only 2011 5.0 Mustang GT. So bad rear end; these cars have huge potential. http://youtu.be/ADx2kpL9dDA
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frozenphil posted:Revolution Automotive goes 10.99 @ 124mph with a naturally aspirated, bolt-on only 2011 5.0 Mustang GT. So bad rear end; these cars have huge potential. I don't drag race, so forgive my ignorance. Bolt-on what, exactly?
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# ? Apr 27, 2011 18:00 |
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A.o.D. posted:I don't drag race, so forgive my ignorance. Bolt-on what, exactly? Bolt on means anything you can pop on a car without need for modification. It generally means intake, exhaust, cams, and computer flash, although anything can really qualify. I've heard new rear ends and Nitrous referred to as bolt up.
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# ? Apr 27, 2011 18:16 |
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Muffinpox posted:Bolt on means anything you can pop on a car without need for modification. It generally means intake, exhaust, cams, and computer flash, although anything can really qualify. I've heard new rear ends and Nitrous referred to as bolt up. The way I've always used it: If there's no cutting or welding, it's bolt-on. Or duct-tape-on.
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A.o.D. posted:I don't drag race, so forgive my ignorance. Bolt-on what, exactly? As others have said, it's really subjective. Most people consider CAI, exhaust, intake, tune, and suspension stuff as "bolt-ons". My personal rule is if you can do it in a few hours in your driveway then it's probably a bolt-on. I don't consider power adders (superchargers, nitrous, turbos) or internal engine work to be bolt-on mods.
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# ? Apr 27, 2011 20:52 |
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Wanna keep being all about this: http://jalopnik.com/#!5796207/ford-silent-on-broken-mustang-transmissions That's the tranny in the Boss Mustang, right?
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# ? Apr 27, 2011 22:01 |
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Test drove a drop top today. I am really interested in getting a new 5.0 convertible, but the dealership didn't have any 5.0s, hardtop or otherwise. They did have a slightly used 2011 V6 Auto. Very impressed with the V6, less impressed with the Auto ( although looking at that news item it might be the reliable choice) . Wasn't really looking to flog it or anything, I was mostly just interested in NVH stuff having never owned a convertible. I came away pretty impressed and how solid it felt even with the top down, conversations were no problem, and the ride wasn't overly bad. My tester didn't have the premium interior and I was a little disappointed with the fit and finish, but not too much considering the price... The only real fault was that I wasn't really impressed with the Shaker 500, it sounded hollow compared to the Bose system in my Caddy. Now the real problem in that the dealership wasn't really all that interested in moving on the price, which for a well equipped V8 'vert came in at just under 50 grand Canadian. Maybe later this summer...
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Lt. Jebus posted:Test drove a drop top today. I am really interested in getting a new 5.0 convertible, but the dealership didn't have any 5.0s, hardtop or otherwise. They did have a slightly used 2011 V6 Auto. Good call. Always be willing to walk away. Always be willing to talk to another dealer.
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# ? Apr 28, 2011 02:13 |
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kimbo305 posted:Wanna keep being all about this: I remember reading in a car mag about a lot of modern flat tappet cam failure being the result of poor metallurgy of Chinese foundries/casting. They were skipping some important part of processing the metal and it resulted in a part that was softer and weaker than it should have been which was causing a lot of wiped lobes and poo poo on stuff that didn't happen 40 years earlier. Maybe this is the same kind of situation. If I was shopping for a new Mustang it might make me go with the automatic. Those modern 6-speed ZF based boxes are very nice units.
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# ? Apr 28, 2011 03:45 |
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I like the automatic on my '11 5.0, except, it's programmed for soft granny shifts. Mine doesn't even chirp 2nd. And the 3.15 gearing feels a little taller than I'd like. I gotta get a tune on it.
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# ? Apr 28, 2011 07:09 |
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Ordered 5 weeks ago yesterday. :jeopardy music:
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# ? Apr 28, 2011 13:11 |
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Number_6 posted:I like the automatic on my '11 5.0, except, it's programmed for soft granny shifts. Mine doesn't even chirp 2nd. And the 3.15 gearing feels a little taller than I'd like. I gotta get a tune on it. A tune will definitely improve your shifts. I have the manual (3600 miles and no problems so far) and depending on the road surface, I can chirp the tires shifting into 4th.
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# ? Apr 28, 2011 13:54 |
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kimbo305 posted:Wanna keep being all about this: It's really weird to how how the only forum I can find with people talking about this issue is the one Jalopnick linked. The forums that have people who aren't completely retarded don't seem to have a single person with this issue. Strange...it's like there's a reason I didn't list allfordmustangs.com as a forum you should visit.
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Offrampmotel posted:A tune will definitely improve your shifts. I have the manual (3600 miles and no problems so far) and depending on the road surface, I can chirp the tires shifting into 4th. What gearing do you have that you can chirp into 4th?! Mine with the 3.31s is already exceeding the highest speed limits in America before I'm in 3rd gear. frozenphil posted:It's really weird to how how the only forum I can find with people talking about this issue is the one Jalopnick linked. The forums that have people who aren't completely retarded don't seem to have a single person with this issue. Strange...it's like there's a reason I didn't list allfordmustangs.com as a forum you should visit. Well, mine almost always crunches 1-2 and 2-3 (not a full grind, but a quick crunch sound). Shifting 1-2 at the redline without being /very/ slow and methodical will grind. Just a few days ago, it flat out refused to go into any gear. Accelerated from a light not even that briskly, tried to shift to 2nd.. wouldn't budge.. tried 3rd, 4th, finally got it to go into 5th. The transmission and my FRPP tune are the only faults of my car (though I could reverse the tune but gently caress skip shift). The tune causes the engine to stall if I were to just rev it without load. Even a short blip to ~1200 or so will cause it to dip way below idle and try to die (it usually recovers though). A blip to 4k or so will kill it. I got bored at a light once and revved it to 4k -- it died, then all the gauges lit red and it wouldn't restart. Had to cycle the key a dozen or so times. Thankfully I didn't hold anyone up as the light was hosed and not turning green even after a few cycles for other directions (which is why I was bored haha).
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frozenphil posted:It's really weird to how how the only forum I can find with people talking about this issue is the one Jalopnick linked. The forums that have people who aren't completely retarded don't seem to have a single person with this issue. Strange...it's like there's a reason I didn't list allfordmustangs.com as a forum you should visit. There's some talk on s197 forum but it seems like it's a lot less of an issue than on allfordmustangs. That forum is full of retards anyways. Hopefully if it becomes a real issue there will be a recall.
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optikalus posted:What gearing do you have that you can chirp into 4th?! Mine with the 3.31s is already exceeding the highest speed limits in America before I'm in 3rd gear. I have 3.73 gears. I can't chirp going into 4th consistently, but on types of pavement that offer less traction than others I can do it about 75% of the time. In first at WOT my tires will spin above 4k, and I can chirp the tires shifting into 2nd and 3rd 100% of the time. ninja edit: Mods are Airaid CAI & Bama 93 race tune.
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kimbo305 posted:Wanna keep being all about this: As far as I can tell, the "Broken" transmissions are an extreme minority of cars and that the "hundreds" of complaints are just the same guys complaining 100 times. I've never had a tranny that was entirely smooth from gear 1-5, and the old outgoing Tremec wasn't free of notchy shifts or bad cold weather shifting either. It's really hard to tell what's a legitimate problem and what's just a lot of noise when it comes to internet discussions; there's a lot of people out there saying the MT82 is one of the best and smoothest sticks they've ever used, its just that nobody is listening to them. Didn't they resolve this problem on the 2012 Mustangs too? Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Apr 28, 2011 |
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frozenphil posted:It's really weird to how how the only forum I can find with people talking about this issue is the one Jalopnick linked. The forums that have people who aren't completely retarded don't seem to have a single person with this issue. Strange...it's like there's a reason I didn't list allfordmustangs.com as a forum you should visit. I work indirectly for Ford, and it's an issue. We were told to look for transmission problems. e- also in case you didn't look at the thread in GBS, glad you made it through yesterday ok
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Angry Grimace posted:As far as I can tell, the "Broken" transmissions are an extreme minority of cars and that the "hundreds" of complaints are just the same guys complaining 100 times. I've never had a tranny that was entirely smooth from gear 1-5, and the old outgoing Tremec wasn't free of notchy shifts or bad cold weather shifting either. I have 3600 miles on my MT82 and haven't had any problems whatsoever. Although the 1-2 shift can occasionally be a little notchy, most of the time everything seems to shift ok. Then again this is the first manual car I've ever owned, so I know gently caress all about what a good shifting transmission is supposed to feel like.
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Angry Grimace posted:As far as I can tell, the "Broken" transmissions are an extreme minority of cars and that the "hundreds" of complaints are just the same guys complaining 100 times. I've never had a tranny that was entirely smooth from gear 1-5, and the old outgoing Tremec wasn't free of notchy shifts or bad cold weather shifting either. There's a thread about it on the Corral and I think I've seen it mentioned over on modular fords as well. Ford released a TSB recommending folks with cars built before April '10 change out their tranny fluids. Mine was built in October '10, no issues here.
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# ? Apr 28, 2011 23:04 |
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Mine was November 2010 and is fine so far (700 miles). Also its incredibly awesome.
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RockSmart posted:There's a thread about it on the Corral and I think I've seen it mentioned over on modular fords as well. Ford released a TSB recommending folks with cars built before April '10 change out their tranny fluids. Mine was an April '10 car, so maybe I'll have the dealer swap the fluid next time I go in for an oil change
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optikalus posted:The transmission and my FRPP tune are the only faults of my car (though I could reverse the tune but gently caress skip shift). The tune causes the engine to stall if I were to just rev it without load. Only? It sounds like you have pretty major problems with what's probably the two most expensive and important parts of your basically brand new car. I know the transmission thing is somewhat being dealt with, but are you really okay with your car stalling if you press the gas? Seems like some sort of automotive Stockholm syndrome. (It's ok I have it too)
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Angry Grimace posted:As far as I can tell, the "Broken" transmissions are an extreme minority of cars and that the "hundreds" of complaints are just the same guys complaining 100 times. I've never had a tranny that was entirely smooth from gear 1-5, and the old outgoing Tremec wasn't free of notchy shifts or bad cold weather shifting either. But yeah, a lot of those posts on allfordmustangs are by the same guy. I get it: your car is broken. Why he doesn't just loving Lemon Law the vehicle (as people have been telling him to do) and move on is beyond me.
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Presto posted:But yeah, a lot of those posts on allfordmustangs are by the same guy. I get it: your car is broken. Why he doesn't just loving Lemon Law the vehicle (as people have been telling him to do) and move on is beyond me. The "Goon in a well" scenario is not unique to SA. Broken means he gets to be noisy and get attention. If it was fixed, he'd not have anything to contribute, and therefore his 15 minutes of fame would be over. Soooo it looks like a 5.0 is going to be my Christmas or birthday (March) present to myself. I kinda want to wait until March because I live in Seattle and don't relish driving it through our nasty winters (and winter drivers), but I don't know if I'll be able to wait those extra 3 months. I'm thinking of skipping the brembo package for the glass roof, as I won't be tracking it, and because drat! It really makes the interior feel bigger. How do the stock brakes hold up to spirited driving up and down mountain roads?
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Wombot posted:
Order it in December, then it'll be ready by March. Problem solved?
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Wombot posted:The "Goon in a well" scenario is not unique to SA. Broken means he gets to be noisy and get attention. If it was fixed, he'd not have anything to contribute, and therefore his 15 minutes of fame would be over. Personally if it were me I'd have lemon lawed it and done everything possible to get a 2012 or a 2011 with more options than mine. Clearly the guy got a lemon, it happens and it doesn't surprise me. As for the standard brakes, mine hold up just fine. My big issues with the Brembo package is the wheels kinda suck and that they only come with summer rubber. My fiance was cool enough to let me buy a 5.0 while planning a wedding and stashing away money for a house so I didn't want to push it and drop another $1500 on wheels and tires right out of the gate.
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http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php/174322-5.0L-Coyote-Powered-Ford-Ranger-Truck 5.0 coyote ranger. Stumbled onto this while fantasizing about a monster f-150. Base $19,998 truck $1,000 5.0 option $6,500 kenne bell lightning 3.0 for a little extra wacky, 6" flare pre-runner bedsides from fiberwerx, minitub, a couple mickey thompson 33X22.00R20LTs.
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MikeyTsi posted:Order it in December, then it'll be ready by March. Problem solved? Yea, but I'll be ready to order one by September, so it would be ready to drive by December. First world problems! E: Does anyone else think the painted nose on the GT500s and V6s looks better than the all-black plastic nose on the GTs? Wombot fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Apr 29, 2011 |
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Wombot posted:Yea, but I'll be ready to order one by September, so it would be ready to drive by December. First world problems! Just get a set of snow tires and you'll be able to deal with pretty much anything Seattle winter can throw at you. I drove mine in the winter in Calgary (albeit not on the worst days, because I didn't want to deal with the traffic nightmares) and had no problems whatsoever, even in some terrible conditions (they don't plow residential streets at all, so there's always plenty of snow and ice on them).
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