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thesurlyspringKAA posted:Yeah this sounds like a disaster: American budgeting and project management combined with famed soviet engineering!! Two awful tastes that lead to dead astronauts together. You do realize that the Russian space program has a better safety record than NASA, right?
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Nothus posted:You do realize that the Russian space program has a better safety record than NASA, right? By what metric? Deaths of astronauts alone? If so, that's a pretty lousy yard stick.
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Nothus posted:You do realize that the Russian space program has a better safety record than NASA, right? Russia still wins on sheer lives lost through blatant disregard for safety, though. 
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grover posted:3 out of 5 shuttles making it to retirement isn't so bad... This would be when they accidentally vaporized 80 people? I remember that from an old LF thread on the Soviet space program.
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Nothus posted:You do realize that the Russian space program has a better safety record than NASA, right? Publicly, sure, I'll go along with that. Most people know better, though. Unless you're talking unmanned alone, then I'm not sure.
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Nebakenezzer posted:This would be when they accidentally vaporized 80 people? I remember that from an old LF thread on the Soviet space program. 78 officially, but more likely 120. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nedelin_catastrophe
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May 7, 2011 22:21
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Soviet/Russian rocket failures are the best thing.
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What was the one with the video where chunks of burning metal are falling down around people? Did I imagine it?
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Yeah, I forgot about that little episode. Still for sheer reliability in space travel, it's hard to beat the tried and true Soyuz.
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blambert posted:What was the one with the video where chunks of burning metal are falling down around people? Did I imagine it? Here you go. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KApLcKQ3Pu0 Edit: Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF0MgKSo7cI and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_aHEit-SqA ApathyGifted fucked around with this message at 04:11 on May 8, 2011 |
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ApathyGifted posted:Here you go. Every time I watch these, I can't help but crack a smile at the sheer magnitude of understatement the "we've had an anomaly" is.
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Boat posted:Every time I watch these, I can't help but crack a smile at the sheer magnitude of understatement the "we've had an anomaly" is. My personal favorite is the (partially faked) video of the Chinese Long March 3B rocket. It just barely clears the tower before instantly rotating 45 degrees and heading off into the night parallel to the ground. I say it's faked because it cuts to footage of a town allegedly devastated by the rocket crashing into to it. The story went that an Israeli engineer working on the satellite that was to be launched filmed it and smuggled it out of China. Problem is, you don't see any evidence of fire. A little googling and wikipedia checking shows that there was a 7.0 earthquake in the area just 12 days before. The rocket did crash into a village, killing 6, but the footage basically shows a small city that's been completely wrecked, which would have killed way more than 6 if a rocket had done it.
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Boat posted:Every time I watch these, I can't help but crack a smile at the sheer magnitude of understatement the "we've had an anomaly" is. It's almost so bad that you wonder if she's in a windowless room just looking at data, rather than the HUGE loving EXPLOSION outside.
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thesurlyspringKAA posted:Yeah this sounds like a disaster: American budgeting and project management combined with famed soviet engineering!! Two awful tastes that lead to dead astronauts together. I'm fairly sure that inferior Soviet rockets were taking stuff up to the space station every time a space shuttle crashed due to extreme conditions such as a small dog farting during launch.
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Scabrous Teat posted:I'm fairly sure that inferior Soviet rockets were taking stuff up to the space station every time a space shuttle crashed due to extreme conditions such as a small dog farting during launch. Yeah, that's clearly his point. Pull the sickle out of your rear end.
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Kilonum posted:Man, seeing your avatar freaked me out for a second, I thought I sleep-posted or something. The Great Tennessee Air Show has come and gone, unfortunately there was rain and overcast conditions for 85% of the show but I was able to stand right on the tarmac and get circled by two F-15E's at 100-150 feet which more than made the show for me.  McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle by Silenus81, on Flickr  McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle by Silenus81, on Flickr  McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle by Silenus81, on Flickr  U.S. Air Force - Thunderbirds by Silenus81, on Flickr  U.S. Air Force - Thunderbird #5 by Silenus81, on Flickr Interestingly enough, I may have caught a panel detaching from one of the F-15E jets. The demo team posted on their facebook that a panel flew off sometime during their show and they were looking for photos to determine when/where it came off and I went through mine and noticed this:  DSC_8672-crop by Silenus81, on Flickr I sent them the original photo and a google map with the area it was over marked, hopefully it solves their mystery.
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Tail Flash indicates they're out of Seymour Johnson AFB, couldn't tell you what squadron though.
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Kilonum posted:Tail Flash indicates they're out of Seymour Johnson AFB, couldn't tell you what squadron though. 4th Fighter Wing, 333rd Squadron. The serial numbers of the two jets are 87-0179 and 87-0171. 
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That's an interesting pair of avatars... Did the Tbirds upgrade/replace their jets in the past few years?
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I think in 2008 they received block 52s. Mo powa. I believe the Blue Angels are also slowly transitioning to C model Hornets to replace their aging As, which are some of the earliest Hornets built.
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52s would explain it. And yeah, I've heard the same about the Blue Angels.
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PREYING MANTITS posted:
Updating this, I found what's most likely the panel. Assuming they let me keep it I'm going to beg to get the demo team to sign it or something because how cool would that be? haha.  Possible panel off F-15E by Silenus81, on Flickr edit: vvv -- hah, I certainly wouldn't be against that idea! Something tells me I'd be on one of those highlight videos where the pilots try to make their passenger pass out by pulling g's though. PREYING MANTITS fucked around with this message at 20:51 on May 10, 2011 |
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PREYING MANTITS posted:Updating this, I found what's most likely the panel. Assuming they let me keep it I'm going to beg to get the demo team to sign it or something because how cool would that be? haha. Wow thats really awesome. They should give you a free ride along for finding it.
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PREYING MANTITS posted:Updating this, I found what's most likely the panel. Assuming they let me keep it I'm going to beg to get the demo team to sign it or something because how cool would that be? haha. That's awesome. Good for you finding it. Hopefully they won't be asses about it and demand it back as US Government Property. A little reward would be nice.
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Thanks guys! slidebite posted:That's awesome. Good for you finding it. Hopefully they won't be asses about it and demand it back as US Government Property. A little reward would be nice. Yeah that's kind of what I'm expecting them to do, but hopefully they'll be cool about it. Worst case scenario I'll probably get a couple patches and a thank you letter which still isn't too bad, but I'd rather have a signed piece of a fighter jet!
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Woohoo! Just got announced today that my local AFB is going to have the Thunderbirds at their open house this fall. First time we will have had them since 2006. Not a huge thing but it deffinitely means I'll be dragging the family out there this year.
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The 80s in Memphis was a pretty good time for air shows. They would have them down by the river, as well as shows at the nearby Millington Naval Air Station and Blytheville (Eaker) Air Force Base. Eaker closed in the 90s and Millington was reduced to Naval Support Activity, so there's not as much going on. I saw the Thunderbirds several times by the river, and saw the Blue Angels in Millington. Blytheville was where I first experienced a sonic boom--an F-4 Phantom zipped over the tarmac, and the entire crowd flattened in bowel-shaking terror. I was around nine and I was lying on the concrete, scared to death. Right after the Gulf War, I got to see an F-117 up close, which was pretty cool, and later it was possible to get B-2s to do flyovers from their base in Missouri. Cool stuff, but I haven't been to one in years, and I finally have decent camera equipment. I really ought to hit up the next one.
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benito posted:
I was watching Iron Eagle IV, and was struck by how much MIG-29's apparently look like F-4 Phantoms. Like, they're apparently pretty much identical.
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Tindjin posted:Woohoo! Just got announced today that my local AFB is going to have the Thunderbirds at their open house this fall. First time we will have had them since 2006. Not a huge thing but it deffinitely means I'll be dragging the family out there this year. They put on a pretty good show here, so I hope they make as good of a showing for you too! I do have to admit though, I'm more of a Blue Angels fan myself, I think it's just the sweet sound of an F-18 that warms my heart. They've apparently been booked for the 2012 air show here, which is cool. I'm surprised they were able to pull both the Thunderbirds and Blue Angels after a 2 year hiatus on any shows since I've heard competition is pretty fierce to book either of them.
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Portsmouth-Boston Air Show pretty much always gets Thunderbirds. Then again it's at a former SAC base that is now a reliever airport for Logan and is the NH ANG base. When South Weymouth Naval Air Station was still open they always seemed to snag the Blue Angels, as did Cecil Field in Jacksonville. The latter my family went to every year when we lived there.
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Concept images of the F-35 in Thunderbirds paint: Doesn't really look quite right to me, but I always loved the old designs like the T-33: 
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benito posted:Doesn't really look quite right to me, but I always loved the old designs like the T-33: Love it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhUR-Fj_dIY&feature=player_embedded STOL Competition quote:This year Doyle was able to fly Mike Olson’s Cuzoom into first place with a 43-foot take-off and a 35-foot landing. The video is crazy to watch. Knife edge flying indeed.
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c355n4 posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhUR-Fj_dIY&feature=player_embedded That's some crazy poo poo.
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Those pilots are pretty ballsy. I've always been partial to the STOL comp outtakes, featuring people who got on the brakes just a little too hard on the landing (see the latter half of this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuE2cW8NMx8)
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c355n4 posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhUR-Fj_dIY&feature=player_embedded  "Doc, we better back up. We don't have enough runway to get up to V2." "Runway? Where we're going, we don't need runways."Impressive! Never thought it would be possible... unless facing an hurricane. I guess the airflow from the propeller helps to get some lift?
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Those things are tweaked so precisely that the prop wash is enough to get the tail off the ground. I love the huge tires on some of them too. Just bounce it on the surface and done. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwMlgc1saHs
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benito posted:Doesn't really look quite right to me, but I always loved the old designs like the T-33:
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I love STOL bush planes, I particularly like the little tricks some of them have, like a button to pneumatically retract the flaps to kill the lift so they can hit maximum braking. I'd love to pop the 31" abw tyres on the husky but as I'm mainly based from tarmac at the moment the wear would be ridiculous, in the future will prob pop for the 26" goodyears as they're a better compromise for varied use. 6 psi or so on such a big tyre must great for rolling over obstacles.
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