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Oh man, that's really bad. One of the worst in this thread. Why the media try to make themselves part of the story is just beyond me, it's definitely not their place to call for a player to be traded because he didn't want to talk to overly-critical reporters that are trying to make a name for themselves by via character assassination
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ElwoodCuse posted:The "if you knew what I knew wink wink " stories about Jayson Werth cannot possibly be as bad as the ones about Pat "Vintage" Burrell.
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Oh my God... not The F-Word!!!
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"and believe me, many other things go on, that as reporters, we can’t talk about." Wait, what? Because talking about them would violate confidences or make you an anathema? Those are the only legitimate reasons that I can conceive of because otherwise I'm pretty sure it's literally your aforementioned job. More likely: [1] You don't have any substantive information and/or [2] the information is hearsay [3] the dissemination of the information would be defamatory pretty unprofessional line to drop, especially with regard to someone's character
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swizz posted:"and believe me, many other things go on, that as reporters, we can’t talk about." Well, even if a reporter had pretty solid information that he, say, boned a teammate's wife, it'd be pretty cruel to that teammate to write the story. But a) if you're not going to write the story, then you can't just ask us to take your word for things, and b) being an rear end in a top hat doesn't make a good player less good!
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Yeah, it's that sort of thing that would turn the reporter into an anathema in the clubhouse and I consider that a legitimate reason to withhold it. That having been said, I doubt she has anything other than hearsay.
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She didn't have anything, she just threw that in there because she's a loving child
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swizz posted:Yeah, it's that sort of thing that would turn the reporter into an anathema in the clubhouse and I consider that a legitimate reason to withhold it. That having been said, I doubt she has anything other than hearsay. She is a bit player at a tiny publication, not to put too fine a point on it. I can't imagine what dirt she'd be digging that other people wouldn't have already run through the deadspin/espn wringer much more thoroughly.
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The Pussy Boss posted:Oh my God... not The F-Word!!! I guess this is especially funny to me because Lincecum has said gently caress on live TV at least twice and we love him for it. At least, I have never heard anybody in the Bay Area, media or fan, who has said anything negative about it.
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Chase Utley: World "loving" Champions.
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seiferguy posted:Chase Utley: World "loving" Champions. 
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Orgophlax posted:Ahem... "phucking" No.
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Here's a helpful political cartoon that really covers the intricacies of the lockout.  Edit: The rest of his cartoons are almost as thought provoking Bip Roberts fucked around with this message at 02:22 on May 27, 2011 |
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May 27, 2011 02:16
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His hat has the tiniest halo floating just above it.
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May 27, 2011 02:44
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There is no football for me to turn off though! If only he'd warned us earlier  e: haha, holy poo poo that guy owns. People definitely need to check out the rest of his cartoons, including the commentary so that you can really understand the message he's trying to convey. It can be pretty complicated! MourningView fucked around with this message at 02:52 on May 27, 2011 |
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All it takes to get the attention of the owners and players is a movement. A movement from fans for fans that will send a clear message to a league gone crazy. It starts with the remote. Maybe a web site. Some twitter campaigns. If a whole nation can rise up in unity (Egypt) I think it’s feasible to rattle the cages of the players and owners that it’s time to get this thing done. I almost launched a movement myself called the400. the400 is a reference to the horrible treatment 400 fans got at this years Super Bowl when they took their seats away and never replaced them. So you start a website called the400.com and you tie in social media, a few local radio stations, a press release and a forum for an entire country sick of the greed of professional sports. You urge nationwide boycotts of advertisers (start with the one that sponsored the Super Bowl) and away you go. I’d do it, but frankly don’t have the time. If you feel the urge. Go for it. Someone has to stop this nonsense. I love this guy so much. Not watching football is like the revolution in Egypt. He almost did something once!
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MorningView posted:There is no football for me to turn off though! If only he'd warned us earlier The messages are great. They remind me of the Onion cartoonist: http://www.theonion.com/articles/may-23-2011,20509/
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You know, I would give a lot more credence to his demands for an immediate resolution to the labor dispute if he seemed to have any opinion on which side was in the right, or maybe displayed any sort of knowledge about the issues. Saying "OKAY GUYS YOU'RE BOTH WRONG JUST COMPROMISE AND AGREE REALLY FAST" is a nonsensical position, unless his master plan somehow involves making sure that each side is exactly equally pressured and hence it's in neither one's interest to hold out for better terms.
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Millionaires fighting billionaires while YOU struggle to pay the bills!!!!
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*I* want to watch football. ME. I don't care what you owners or players think because they're greedy! That's what I read there.
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Is it really surprising that a cartoonist representing the "man on the street" sees millionaires haggling with billionaires? It's a pretty natural urge to want them both to gently caress off and die. That said, his cartoons are indeed terrible.
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zakharov posted:Is it really surprising that a cartoonist representing the "man on the street" sees millionaires haggling with billionaires? It's a pretty natural urge to want them both to gently caress off and die. I'm honestly pretty surprised just how little I care about the lockout, maybe it's partially because it's the middle of the baseball season but I dunno, I thought I'd be a bit annoyed or something over it
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SM64Guy posted:I'm honestly pretty surprised just how little I care about the lockout, maybe it's partially because it's the middle of the baseball season but I dunno, I thought I'd be a bit annoyed or something over it I'd be a lot more worked up, but there are so many other evil things that rich people are doing that it's hard to even notice the NFL owners.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/29/sports/baseball/william-c-rhoden-wilpons-words-are-wise-his-timing-may-not-be.html This article in sum: 'I like Fred Wilpon because he admired Jackie Robinson. But his one defect is that he doesn't 'hellraise more often' to make his team play with 'the Jackie Robinson spirit'. He doesn't criticize them enough. This is the Mets' problem. Fart.'
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this is it. this is the perfect time to defend fred wilpon.
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Time magazine tells us about a player that has slipped under the radar this season: http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,2074355-1,00.html quote:Jose Bautista: The Best Baseball Player You've Never Heard Of And so on
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The Latin American player quote is bad but I would agree that anyone who doesn't follow baseball has no idea who Jose Bautista is.
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A lot of time the premise of an article is what dooms it to Sports Journalism, like this! Ichiro needs to show leadership with more hustle The Joey Bats article is a sound premise, even if it goes a little off the rails. To be fair if you are purely discussing a personality's markitability or Q rating like the article does, having a language barrier does affect it.
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I don't even think the Latin America quote is bad. Do you think it's easy for most Latin American players to learn to fluently speak a second language while playing baseball year round? Some orgs, like the Mets, have academies and mandatory language classes, but I imagine many don't.
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Badfinger posted:The Joey Bats article is a sound premise, even if it goes a little off the rails. To be fair if you are purely discussing a personality's markitability or Q rating like the article does, having a language barrier does affect it. I think the premise is only slightly dodgy, but it becomes outright bad with how the first few paragraphs are written. This is then augmented by a ridiculous part where he uses how often someone is searched on Yahoo as a proxy for internet "buzz" (whatever that may be) and then uses a time frame of 12 months, which extends prior to Bautista's rise to prominence. e: I suppose the article can also be fit under the proud old FJM category of "food metaphors." BackInTheUSSR posted:I don't even think the Latin America quote is bad. Do you think it's easy for most Latin American players to learn to fluently speak a second language while playing baseball year round?
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I think it's in the context that Latin American ballplayers are a difficult sell to the media because they historically speak poor English. And yet even though Bautista does speak clear English, he's not charismatic enough and not "American enough" to appeal to the common fan.
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BackInTheUSSR posted:I think it's in the context that Latin American ballplayers are a difficult sell to the media because they historically speak poor English. And yet even though Bautista does speak clear English, he's not charismatic enough and not "American enough" to appeal to the common fan. Not only is none of that lost by removing the "a challenge for some ballplayers from Latin America" phrase, but the insertion of that phrase detracts from that point. It changes the focus from "he is bland" to "he is foreign" and his foreignness is addressed much better in the next sentence.
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Hand Knit posted:I think the premise is only slightly dodgy, but it becomes outright bad with how the first few paragraphs are written. This is then augmented by a ridiculous part where he uses how often someone is searched on Yahoo as a proxy for internet "buzz" (whatever that may be) and then uses a time frame of 12 months, which extends prior to Bautista's rise to prominence. I, personally, do not think the article is terrible. It's not great, it's just kind of words on the internet. Bautista started being noticed back at the end of the '09 season, but I suppose he really became a star in 2010. I think the fact that MLB does not particularly market its individual players is a pretty good point made.
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Badfinger posted:A lot of time the premise of an article is what dooms it to Sports Journalism, like this! God damnit Steve Kelley I hate you so much.
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Badfinger posted:A lot of time the premise of an article is what dooms it to Sports Journalism, like this! EDIT: agggh how does he not see the value in a player wanting to contribute by not stupidly injuring himself on dumb plays that hurt his team aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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That article is stupid. Everyone knows Ichiro needs to show leadership by going on more profanity-laced pregame tirades in the locker room.
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Mornacale posted:That article is stupid. Everyone knows Ichiro needs to show leadership by going on more profanity-laced pregame tirades in the locker room.
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Thesoro posted:Jesus Christ this article reads like an SASer wrote it to demonstrate thoroughly the most awful sports journalism possible. I like how his "good example" is Olivo diving headfirst into first base, which is a terrible decision on like 3 different levels
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Badfinger posted:A lot of time the premise of an article is what dooms it to Sports Journalism, like this! I swear half the reason people from Seattle don't like the Mariners is the poo poo the Seattle Times puts out about them about how dumb they are, and the people of Seattle believe it.
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