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you speak of this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SGjNJMmMZA
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it's got to the one where he bends over and continues to slip punches all the way to the floor.
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No unfortunately that's not it fawker. It's a lot cleaner slipping the other guys fists never come near Tyson's face. From my recollection Tyson was to the right of the frame and he floors the guy with a left hook.
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KidDynamite posted:No unfortunately that's not it fawker. It's a lot cleaner slipping the other guys fists never come near Tyson's face. From my recollection Tyson was to the right of the frame and he floors the guy with a left hook. Maybe in this video? Not seeing what you described, but is is a "my defense is impregnable" montage. Good video either way. 32 seconds in maybe? Drops a guy with a left hook to the body.
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May 22, 2011 05:21
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Eat This Glob posted:Maybe in this video? Not seeing what you described, but is is a "my defense is impregnable" montage. Good video either way. I saw that yesterday, was going to post it, and then...didn't, obviously. Awesome video. I'm not a boxing fan and have never seen a Tyson fight, but I can see why he was so popular. He must have been a lot of fun to watch.
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all i remember was my dad being pissed for paying for a ppv where the main event happened in the time it took him to hit the bathroom and back
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So, what are the major kinds of takedown? I know about the double leg and the power double, but someone I know referred to the one GSP used against Hardy as something like a "Power Clutch" or something. The one where the inside arm goes between the legs *Insert GSP gay joke there if you feel the need*
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Snowman_McK posted:So, what are the major kinds of takedown? thats called a 'single leg' takedown, actually.
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May 31, 2011 17:09
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There was a brief summary of various takedowns floating around somewhere. Found it quote:Wrestling Takedowns 101 thanks to awkward_turtle
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OH WORD SON posted:thats called a 'single leg' takedown, actually. high crotch single, the "power clutch" refers to the hand position when doing this i think
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May 31, 2011 17:25
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Someone should do one on all the greco and judo takedowns. Greco takedowns are awesome, and Judo ones have stupid names that I can never remember.
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May 31, 2011 18:14
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http://www.themat.com/usawrestling.org/coaches.php?page=keen and http://judoinfo.com/new/techniques/index are both helpful.
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May 31, 2011 18:54
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Whoa that USA Wrestling site rules.
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It's weird to me that we label so many different regional sports from around the world as some form of "wrestling" but not the sport of judo. Call me crazy but when I watch it it looks a hell of a lot like wrestling with a slightly different ruleset and outfit. It's a 2-player game where the object is to throw your opponent down on a mat. Is there some major distinction I'm missing, or is it just a cultural thing? I mean, if that crazy turkish leather pants oil rubdown thing is called wrestling...
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Thermos H Christ posted:It's weird to me that we label so many different regional sports from around the world as some form of "wrestling" but not the sport of judo. Call me crazy but when I watch it it looks a hell of a lot like wrestling with a slightly different ruleset and outfit. It's a 2-player game where the object is to throw your opponent down on a mat. Is there some major distinction I'm missing, or is it just a cultural thing? I mean, if that crazy turkish leather pants oil rubdown thing is called wrestling... You can't grab clothing in most of the forms of wrestling that are called "wrestling".
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You could call Judo wrestling and not be "wrong", just incredibly imprecise. Judo has a very defined ruleset, uniform and culture that makes it a distinct style. It is also popular enough that you can say "judo" and people know what you mean. On bizzaro earth where judo never took off you could call it "Japanese Folk Wrestling" because the name "judo" would mean as much to everyone as Khapsagay which is the name proper name for Mongolian Wrestling.
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Sumo wrestlers are allowed to grab eachothers clothing 
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according to wikipedia you can win a match in the turkish national glistening man game by getting "an effective hold" on your opponent's leather shorts. xguard's explanation makes a lot of sense to me, though.
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May 31, 2011 21:30
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arm drags and the people that do them are cool
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DumbWhiteGuy posted:arm drags and the people that do them are cool Agreed. Marcelo Garcia owns.
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marcelo garcia isn't good enough to step into a cage (roger is)
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Is there any particular reason why Middleweight in UFC seems to be such a wasteland? There rarely seem to be any up and comers. Also, Marquadt vs Okami was one of the very few middleweight fights to be a main event (excluding title fights, obviously) I thought it might be the presence of a dominant champion, but Welterweight's still stacked (and keeps getting more so) despite having someone roughly as dominant. And on that, with Welterweight being as stacked as it is, what was the reasoning behind giving Jake Shields a shot? He had one not great win in the octagon, and he got the shot. Kim, Condit and others have all looked a fair bit better. None of them have that many victories, no one does at this point who GSP hasn't already beaten, and many have looked better than Shields. I was just wondering if there was some reasoning behind that.
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Jake Shields got the shot because he's better at fighting than those guys. Middleweight has lots of good fighters like bisping, belcher, okami and notorious cantwell fighter brian stann
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Thermos H Christ posted:according to wikipedia you can win a match in the turkish national glistening man game by getting "an effective hold" on your opponent's leather shorts. Enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31wqGwSfd_E I feel like there's plenty of folk wrestling arts where the traditional clothing is specifically designed to be held. Glima's like that, off the top of my head: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os6yZf02Lcw
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Snowman_McK posted:Is there any particular reason why Middleweight in UFC seems to be such a wasteland? There rarely seem to be any up and comers. Also, Marquadt vs Okami was one of the very few middleweight fights to be a main event (excluding title fights, obviously) I thought it might be the presence of a dominant champion, but Welterweight's still stacked (and keeps getting more so) despite having someone roughly as dominant. No, literally none at all. It's not a wasteland, and there are plenty of good fighters there. They just dont always get noticed because no one has a long winning streak going (Anderson excluded), and a lot of good fighters aren't fighting because injuries or suspension. These things happen sometimes.
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Meat Recital posted:They just dont always get noticed because no one has a long winning streak going (Anderson excluded) I think this is the main factor. Anderson beats everybody, while the rest of the pack is like rock-paper-scissors. It creates the illusion that the rest of the division is made of incompetents.
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There also seem to be more WWs who cut a gently caress ton of weight than any other division so some MW fighters end up at 170. I don't know why this is, but it sure seems to be the case.
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Meat Recital posted:No, literally none at all. It's not a wasteland, and there are plenty of good fighters there. They just dont always get noticed because no one has a long winning streak going (Anderson excluded), and a lot of good fighters aren't fighting because injuries or suspension. These things happen sometimes. Yeah, I guess "relative wasteland" describes it better. There're still good fighters, but it isn't nearly as stacked as welter, light heavy or light. Or is it just that, with 5 years without a change in champion, it's getting increasingly hard to promote middleweight? So while it may be stacked, it's hard to promote it as such.
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MassRayPer posted:There also seem to be more WWs who cut a gently caress ton of weight than any other division so some MW fighters end up at 170. I don't know why this is, but it sure seems to be the case. If you're big enough to fight LH or HW you are too big to cut down to MW but if you're small enough to make middle, you can probably diet/water cut down to 170. Obviously there are a ton of exceptions, but it seems like generally fighters would rather suicide cut to WW than hang out at MW.
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MW seems to be filled with guys who couldn't hack it at LHW - Stann, Munoz, Wandy (  ), probably others I'm missing right now.
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Xguard86 posted:If you're big enough to fight LH or HW you are too big to cut down to MW if it was a choice between fighting Anderson Silva or cutting to WW, I'd be laying off the cheeseburgers too
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On the 12 to 6 elbow rule. If a fighter in a dominant position, like side control, strikes with the same motion as the illegal variety, but doesn't draw his arm "ceiling to floor", is it illegal?
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Ceiling to floor is the only illegal version.
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Lurkee Mcgee posted:On the 12 to 6 elbow rule. If a fighter in a dominant position, like side control, strikes with the same motion as the illegal variety, but doesn't draw his arm "ceiling to floor", is it illegal? There was a fight earlier this year where congo was throwing them horizontally into buentello's legs I think and Rogan pointed out how dumb the 12 to 6 rule was.
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BlindSite posted:There was a fight earlier this year where congo was throwing them horizontally into buentello's legs I think and Rogan pointed out how dumb the 12 to 6 rule was. The one I remember is Anderson battering the top of Lutter's head with them and making him tap to strikes. Rogan had to have Randy explain to him why the ref wasn't calling a foul, and his response to the explanation was "oh, that's really stupid then."
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Jack of Hearts posted:The one I remember is Anderson battering the top of Lutter's head with them and making him tap to strikes. Rogan had to have Randy explain to him why the ref wasn't calling a foul, and his response to the explanation was "oh, that's really stupid then." I was under the impression that anything goes when it comes to elbows from the bottom. My question was just about elbows from the top, but I guess the Congo fight answered that.
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Lurkee Mcgee posted:I was under the impression that anything goes when it comes to elbows from the bottom. My question was just about elbows from the top, but I guess the Congo fight answered that.
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I'm entirely disappointed that Dan Quinn isn't represented in the OP. Rick Vardell vs Dan Quinn Gladiator Challenge Impulse 11/13/2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMmR2h8dbXI&feature=related In the women's restroom at Starbucks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgksX12cIOU&feature=relmfu Dan Quinn, homeless and yelling at a man in a parking lot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MeF4vtVqH0&feature=related
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