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It absolutely makes a difference that you're just skipping over the poo poo you don't want to see live to get to the poo poo you do want to see while it is still live. Once it's no longer happening, it's just information to me instead of entertainment, and I don't want to watch the game I just want to watch the condensed game, or all the scoring plays, or the important scoring chances/extended highlight package.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Everyone stay off Ribsauce's lawn. I would consider that advanced channel surfing, totally different than recording the game and watching it the next day. For example, what if the Raiders and Steelers were playing at the same time? Would it be the same to you if you recorded the Raiders and then watched it after the Steelers game even if you did not know the outcome (which is impossible with the score ticker and in game breakins, but lets pretend). I would imagine you would not want to do that, which is what I am talking about. Ribsauce fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Jun 9, 2011 |
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Jun 9, 2011 19:31
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Scott Burnside posted:BOSTON -- Boston Bruins coach Claude Julien has a bit of a Midas touch right now. A professional writer wrote that. And got paid. And an editor let it slide.
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Ribsauce posted:Would it be the same to you if you recorded the Raiders and then watched it after the Steelers game even if you did not know the outcome The same? No, because by definition it's not. But does it ruin the experience? No. If you don't know the outcome, the senses of anticipation and excitement are all in your head.
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Rogue Elephant posted:A professional writer wrote that. And got paid. And an editor let it slide. When I read things like that, it only enforces my belief that people should be booed in non-sporting event situations.
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Jun 9, 2011 23:01
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Rogue Elephant posted:A professional writer wrote that. And got paid. And an editor let it slide. Tbh that looks an awful lot like he meant to write "wins" and not just win, and the editor missed that instead of the other.
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Jun 9, 2011 23:55
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One of the first groups of people who got laid off across the board were copy-editors so I am amazed that there isn't more of that honestly
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Sportscenter just showed Joba's stats for his first 39 career appearances (all in relief) in a column next to the stats for the rest of his career (everything from his first start on), and came to the conclusion that turning him into a starter ruined him.
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Accident Underwater posted:Sportscenter just showed Joba's stats for his first 39 career appearances (all in relief) in a column next to the stats for the rest of his career (everything from his first start on), and came to the conclusion that turning him into a starter ruined him. The thing you said caused me to make the face in your avatar.
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I thought that most people agreed that being a fat drunk has ruined Joba Chamberlain.
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Joba isn't ruined he was pitching very well this year and pitched very well with some bumps last year
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Yeah, I would be pretty happy to have Joba on my team.
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Mornacale posted:Yeah, I would be pretty happy to have Joba on my team.
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Crazy Ted posted:What do you do if you're Tommy Craggs and don't get a job at Grantland? Start writing angry words about Grantland Rice. You would think he would direct his anger at his current boss who possibly burned his bridge to ESPN instead
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It woulda been funny if he wrote like a lovely 10,000-word Posnanskian rambling article about Grantland and in the middle of a generic sentence he added "loving delaurio"
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leokitty posted:Joba isn't ruined he was pitching very well this year and pitched very well with some bumps last year Poor Joba. He's really been screwed, in a way, because of what a spectacularly good start he got off to. It's like after he came back to earth he could never live up to the casual fan's "expectations" because he didn't turn out to be the second coming of Mariano Rivera or something. This is mostly the fault of idiot sportswriters, of course. Although he had been quietly having a pretty great 2011, it's true. Ellsbury had a similar problem in Boston, after being so great in his 2007 debut. It's not until this year that he's turned back into anything resembling that player for any extended period of time, really. Not that I'm convinced he's going to maintain his .310/.370/.476 line, or anything.
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Not sure how Grantland is going to turn out, but Simmons' hockey article today is the best thing I've read from him in forever. And the retrospective of The National is amazing. It's written in the style of the ESPN book (because of Alex French I'd assume). Good start so far.
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leokitty posted:What the gently caress why are there no RSS feeds? http://www.grantland.com/feed since I just found it this morning.
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Simmons' RSS feed has everything from Grantland on it, too.
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The National owned, it was a mind blowing amount of content for its time. I remember they had scorebook style boxscores for baseball games. You know, the grids with 4-3 and backwards Ks and stuff. I also remember a really awesome long form about sports disasters and their possible aftermath. The Marshall plane crash, the Minneapolis Lakers almost crash, the roof collapse in Hartford, etc.
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Jun 10, 2011 18:31
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sba posted:Not sure how Grantland is going to turn out, but Simmons' hockey article today is the best thing I've read from him in forever. The National article was like a text version of one of the better 30 for 30 documentaries. I'd never heard of The National before but the story really did a great job of conveying its history and what made it so great.
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I wish some publisher would collect a bunch of the better features from The National in a book. Same for Inside Sports, too. I've read a few in some old collections of Best American series, but it'd be nice to have some all together in one book.
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Holland Oats posted:The National article was like a text version of one of the better 30 for 30 documentaries. I'd never heard of The National before but the story really did a great job of conveying its history and what made it so great. Charles Pierce's companion piece is just as good. I hope to god they can maintain this level of awesomeness.
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I'm not sure they can keep this pace up (although they have like 700 writers so maybe), but it's definitely gone really well so far, at least as far as sports stuff is concerned. The oral history of The National was great.
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I have identified a problem in the Grantland article about the "self aware NBA"Carles posted:Think about the face that Skip Bayless makes when someone else is talking, listening intently, mainly because he is waiting for his turn to present a passionate, logical counterpoint. Is this snark? Because if its not let me just say as a counterpoint, "gently caress Skip Bayless."
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Bizob posted:Is this snark? Because if its not let me just say as a counterpoint, "gently caress Skip Bayless." Yeah, I think the writer is playing against expectations of ESPN croneyism and 'selling out'.
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Jun 10, 2011 21:04
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Bizob posted:I have identified a problem in the Grantland article about the "self aware NBA" You are not very familiar with Carles, are you? Also, editorial is obviously making him use proper grammar and I don't really think it works with his character. Groucho Marxist fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Jun 10, 2011 |
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Jun 10, 2011 21:15
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Groucho Marxist posted:You are not very familiar with Carles, are you? I am not familiar with him. I am heartened to hear that it went over my head, even if that sentence did actually make me picture Skip Bayless' face. Ugh.
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Bizob posted:I am not familiar with him. I am heartened to hear that it went over my head, even if that sentence did actually make me picture Skip Bayless' face. Ugh. http://www.hipsterrunoff.com/ It's all pretty funny.
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And Colin Cowherd continues to be a shithead by blaming mid westerners themselves for being unemployed. http://deadspin.com/5810999/
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We may have 8 million fewer jobs than people but if you schlubs wouldn't spend all your money on food and rent you could afford to move across the country and take the place of a slightly less qualified poor local resident 
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I really like grantland so far, even the design. I like that it's minimal and austere and just a little amateur. The worst part about sports journalism on the internet is how loving busy it all is and how much info they try to convey at once.
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Twin Cinema posted:http://www.hipsterrunoff.com/ post/username combo
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the talent deficit posted:I really like grantland so far, even the design. I like that it's minimal and austere and just a little amateur. The worst part about sports journalism on the internet is how loving busy it all is and how much info they try to convey at once. what i'm surprised is they're eventually going to add user comments, which have noticeably been absent from BS's articles for a loooong time.
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Can anyone post that LBJ retro-diary in full (on Pastebin or something), because for some reason it times out for me when I try to read it.
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Geno posted:what i'm surprised is they're eventually going to add user comments, which have noticeably been absent from BS's articles for a loooong time. He had them for all of a day at ESPN (I think he was the first writer they tried them out on). It did not go well.
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I hope they don't add them. User comments are worthless, I have never seen a website improved by them. I hate them because even though I know they will be horrible I can't not click on them.
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Ribsauce posted:I hope they don't add them. User comments are worthless, I have never seen a website improved by them. I hate them because even though I know they will be horrible I can't not click on them. They're beyond worthless, but they can do a lot to drive up a site's impressions. If a reader is navigating to an article and constantly refreshing to see if someone responded to their racist hate, it shows up in the pageviews. For a site like Grantland, which runs minimal advertising in the first-place, that could be crucial to staying alive. morestuff fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Jun 14, 2011 |
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I was under the impression that Grantland was using sponsorships from companies more so than advertisements for their revenue stream. Considering some of the writers involved with the site I'm thinking it is more of a vanity project for ESPN which they can afford to take a loss on.
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Christ Pseudoscientist posted:I was under the impression that Grantland was using sponsorships from companies more so than advertisements for their revenue stream. Considering some of the writers involved with the site I'm thinking it is more of a vanity project for ESPN which they can afford to take a loss on.
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