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Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

TOOT BOOT posted:

It doesn't me mad, persay, but it definitely communicates that whatever it's stamped on is not something I'd be interested in.

Yeah, agreed. I can't make a connection between this and what you've posted.

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boo_radley
Dec 30, 2005

Politeness costs nothing
The guy behind Klinik has a side project named Sonar that I'm really digging:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcV9dNfYu4I


edit: VVV there was a point in my life when my wife and I considered moving to Germany for the scene.

boo_radley fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Jun 29, 2011

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

boo_radley posted:

The guy behind Klinik has a side project named Sonar that I'm really digging:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcV9dNfYu4I

Sonar are the loving best thing. If you get the chance to see them live, do so.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
Yeah Sonar are absolutely amazing, you have no idea what you've been missing.

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.

Pope Guilty posted:

Yeah, agreed. I can't make a connection between this and what you've posted.

Doctor Zero posted:

Should be "Hyper-Violent Porno Cartoon." Unless you really do mean that it's hyper and violent like some kind of ADD psychopath.

I started making this album in 2006 and started over 3 times because my sound sucked my songs sucked everything sucked. Years I've studied what NIN and Manson and Chemlab and everybody did to make something unique and successful, studied A&R after I went through the their thing in 05, marketing, every aspect of what other people would be in charge of if this was a label record. I'm creating a caricature of myself, which I had to bite the bullet that I'm an internet elemental. I'm every stupid emo posting facebook ramblings, bitching about exes, self mutilating, spergin wonderfuck that gravitated to sonic the hedgehog. I posted the instrumentals in the games forum along with the lyrics, and the feedback I got was pretty much expected. I want those that hate it to hate each and every aspect of it, because they don't get that I realize how stupid it is, but I just don't care. Since starting writing this thing, I've gone through 5 computers on this version of the album alone, had to put up with an rear end in a top hat engineer for years to learn, became friends with my favorite bands, moved out of AK for the first time ever, I got people waiting to push me into Hot Topic, and Birthday Massacre is down to let me tour with them god drat I have to make sure every little aspect of this is done right if I'm going to make sure it's successful. This will be it, not the start of a career or anything just one album. If I can successfully commercially sell myself then people will look at that as gold portfolio material. Then maybe I can get a normal 9 to 5 job maybe at a marketing company maybe the'll call me back from one of these interviews and maybe I can some semblance of stability :suicide:

As I bow out from the thread now, I'm pimping my youtube: http://www.youtube.com/mdpofficial

Quirk fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Jun 30, 2011

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Quirk posted:

I started making this album in 2006 and started over 3 times because my sound sucked my songs sucked everything sucked. Years I've studied what NIN and Manson and Chemlab and everybody did to make something unique and successful, studied A&R after I went through the their thing in 05, marketing, every aspect of what other people would be in charge of if this was a label record. I'm creating a caricature of myself, which I had to bite the bullet that I'm an internet elemental. I'm every stupid emo posting facebook ramblings, bitching about exes, self mutilating, spergin wonderfuck that gravitated to sonic the hedgehog. I posted the instrumentals in the games forum along with the lyrics, and the feedback I got was pretty much expected. I want those that hate it to hate each and every aspect of it, because they don't get that I realize how stupid it is, but I just don't care. Since starting writing this thing, I've gone through 5 computers on this version of the album alone, had to put up with an rear end in a top hat engineer for years to learn, became friends with my favorite bands, moved out of AK for the first time ever, I got people waiting to push me into Hot Topic, and Birthday Massacre is down to let me tour with them god drat I have to make sure every little aspect of this is done right if I'm going to make sure it's successful. This will be it, not the start of a career or anything just one album. If I can successfully commercially sell myself then people will look at that as gold portfolio material. Then maybe I can get a normal 9 to 5 job maybe at a marketing company maybe the'll call me back from one of these interviews and maybe I can some semblance of stability :suicide:

what

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

Hahaha I could totally play the What Is Love cover and make it work if I was still spinning at City Club.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
I have no loving idea what just happened.

Nimoon
Jun 6, 2006

x x x x

Quirk posted:

I need to know one last thing from you guys: how viscerally angry or disgusted does this image style make you? This is important. The emo is not me.

It isn't the content of this that makes me angry, it's the inconsistency. The vector silhouettes, grungy fonts, pixel shapes.. none of that goes together. Even if that's the idea, all it makes me think is whoever this is.. they shouldn't be doing their own artwork.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
Why can't people just make music anymore?

Zaiquiri
Mar 14, 2007

Furret Basket posted:

Why can't people just make music anymore?

The 21st century is a cultural dadaist nightmare buried in layer upon layer of irony. Welcome To The Postmodern World.

Sloppy
Apr 25, 2003

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere.

Quirk posted:

I started making this album in 2006 and started over 3 times because my sound sucked my songs sucked everything sucked. Years I've studied what NIN and Manson and Chemlab and everybody did to make something unique and successful, studied A&R after I went through the their thing in 05, marketing, every aspect of what other people would be in charge of if this was a label record. I'm creating a caricature of myself, which I had to bite the bullet that I'm an internet elemental. I'm every stupid emo posting facebook ramblings, bitching about exes, self mutilating, spergin wonderfuck that gravitated to sonic the hedgehog. I posted the instrumentals in the games forum along with the lyrics, and the feedback I got was pretty much expected. I want those that hate it to hate each and every aspect of it, because they don't get that I realize how stupid it is, but I just don't care. Since starting writing this thing, I've gone through 5 computers on this version of the album alone, had to put up with an rear end in a top hat engineer for years to learn, became friends with my favorite bands, moved out of AK for the first time ever, I got people waiting to push me into Hot Topic, and Birthday Massacre is down to let me tour with them god drat I have to make sure every little aspect of this is done right if I'm going to make sure it's successful. This will be it, not the start of a career or anything just one album. If I can successfully commercially sell myself then people will look at that as gold portfolio material. Then maybe I can get a normal 9 to 5 job maybe at a marketing company maybe the'll call me back from one of these interviews and maybe I can some semblance of stability :suicide:

As I bow out from the thread now, I'm pimping my youtube: http://www.youtube.com/mdpofficial

This is awesome also. Wait, are you the guy who recommended Birthday Massacre in the 'Best of 2010' thread? Because if so I love you even more.

spider_ross.avi
Jan 15, 2008

nnGUH

Furret Basket posted:

Why can't people just make music anymore?

"Innovative" technology which gradually strays away from the open-ended programming interface and caters to the impatient aspiring garage band + macbook musician looking for a way to push a button, or slide a finger across a touch screen to only change the frequency of a sound or sample that has already been pre-fabricated for them.

I guess a lot of people are just too impatient to learn even the basics of programming when a world of push-button cookie-cutter devices are out there to do the job for them.

Dickbutt Ouroboros
Nov 13, 2002

handbandit?
Son of a bitch!

Quirk posted:

I started making this album in 2006 and started over 3 times because my sound sucked my songs sucked everything sucked. Years I've studied what NIN and Manson and Chemlab and everybody did to make something unique and successful, studied A&R after I went through the their thing in 05, marketing, every aspect of what other people would be in charge of if this was a label record. I'm creating a caricature of myself, which I had to bite the bullet that I'm an internet elemental. I'm every stupid emo posting facebook ramblings, bitching about exes, self mutilating, spergin wonderfuck that gravitated to sonic the hedgehog. I posted the instrumentals in the games forum along with the lyrics, and the feedback I got was pretty much expected. I want those that hate it to hate each and every aspect of it, because they don't get that I realize how stupid it is, but I just don't care. Since starting writing this thing, I've gone through 5 computers on this version of the album alone, had to put up with an rear end in a top hat engineer for years to learn, became friends with my favorite bands, moved out of AK for the first time ever, I got people waiting to push me into Hot Topic, and Birthday Massacre is down to let me tour with them god drat I have to make sure every little aspect of this is done right if I'm going to make sure it's successful. This will be it, not the start of a career or anything just one album. If I can successfully commercially sell myself then people will look at that as gold portfolio material. Then maybe I can get a normal 9 to 5 job maybe at a marketing company maybe the'll call me back from one of these interviews and maybe I can some semblance of stability :suicide:

As I bow out from the thread now, I'm pimping my youtube: http://www.youtube.com/mdpofficial


I've often dreamed of riding the lovely Portland indie wave to superstardom. Then, I'll name my first studio album Selling Out, and promptly follow through on what it implies.

Who can say they've trolled an entire industry and sub-culture? That's some Andy Kaufman level poo poo. If you pull that off you're my new hero.

a_gelatinous_cube
Feb 13, 2005

Death in June is doing a re-release of Nada! and have a pretty cool limited edition wooden USB edition.

http://www.pylonrecords.com/

That is my favorite DiJ release by far, and it's hard forcing myself not to buy the LPs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZVFY10Jjr0

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Obligatory Douglas is/isn't a nazi.

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.

Sloppy posted:

This is awesome also. Wait, are you the guy who recommended Birthday Massacre in the 'Best of 2010' thread? Because if so I love you even more.

Yeah, that was me. I owe Birthday Massacre alot for helping guide my sound latley.

handbandit posted:

I've often dreamed of riding the lovely Portland indie wave to superstardom. Then, I'll name my first studio album Selling Out, and promptly follow through on what it implies.

Who can say they've trolled an entire industry and sub-culture? That's some Andy Kaufman level poo poo. If you pull that off you're my new hero.

Yeah, I'm not trolling though I am totally what I described I just decided that I'm going to roll with it and embrace it's stupidity. Sorry for the crazy tangents, I'm closing in on finishing something I've spent a huge chunk of my life on and I'm going a bit nuts because of it. NOW I'm bowing out of the thread but I recorded a blog that explains some stuff: http://youtu.be/MHr4eeoVCZY

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
The music you've posted isn't stupid, though.

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
The image is and my lyrics are dumb as hell. But they're both perfectly me so I'm not changing them.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
You're sharing a genre with the people "English License" was written about, you're fine.

boo_radley
Dec 30, 2005

Politeness costs nothing

Quirk posted:

Yeah, that was me. I owe Birthday Massacre alot for helping guide my sound latley.


Yeah, I'm not trolling though I am totally what I described I just decided that I'm going to roll with it and embrace it's stupidity. Sorry for the crazy tangents, I'm closing in on finishing something I've spent a huge chunk of my life on and I'm going a bit nuts because of it. NOW I'm bowing out of the thread but I recorded a blog that explains some stuff: http://youtu.be/MHr4eeoVCZY

Seriously, stick around man.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Birthday Massacre is pretty much the only new thing in the goth/industrial genre that I've heard in the past 10 years that hasn't sucked poo poo. They're good live, too!

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

As much as I love Birthday Massacre, you need to check out Ashbury Heights. I know you haven't because you didn't mention them :mad:

The last Birthday album took a while to grow on me, but I quite like it now.

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
I get told that alot, I will soon. I don't really have much to add to the thread, but if you're interested in my my whole view of industrial I'm enjoying this blogging thing. I would type these but that would go on for pages, so pretend it's an industrial radio thinger as I go into depth about my world of industrial, why I'm going off the deep end, Nothing Records, and hanging with Birthday Massacre. If you guys like this, I'll do another. :)

http://www.youtube.com/user/mdpofficial?feature=mhee#p/u/0/ZprWrxq18dI

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
What's the status on AH, anyway? Are they officially over?

OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009

TOOT BOOT posted:

Obligatory Douglas is/isn't a nazi.

Obligatory "who cares?" You can enjoy Peter Murphy songs even if you aren't a Muslim (even the overtly religious ones) and you can enjoy DIJ's music too whether Doug is a fascist, communist, or just a chubby Australian homosexual.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Quick note on TBM, I was checking if they have any tour dates coming up (they don't) and apparently they have a new EP coming out early in August.

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007

Pope Guilty posted:

What's the status on AH, anyway? Are they officially over?
Yeah. Over and done.

Armor-Piercing
Sep 22, 2009

Nightly dance
of bleeding swords


I was trying to find some new bands to listen to the other day and stumbled upon Waiting in Vain, "a new German Rockmatic-Pop act". They are signed to afmusic (never heard of it) and I guess don't distribute outside the country except from their own website.

That first link has a music player in it, and everyone should listen to Awake Again, which is their latest EP. It's one of those songs that (to me) is really good but somehow falls short of being amazing. I think it might just be the mastering or whatever in this case, but I don't know anything about music production. The vocals also aren't the greatest, but I like them in a sort of "this could've been an early demo for Chris Pohl's forgotten ninth band" way.

On a related note, the lyrics are great. I like lyrics where there's some odd wording because English isn't the writer's first language, but you can still mostly understand what they're getting at. This starts out well enough, until it hits the second verse:

quote:

Could you blame gosh for it
You know it's just a four letter word
Why are so many things just pain in my head
He won wars where people died
Peoples starve where others survive
And even dead people can awake again?

If that wasn't from their own website I would have just assumed someone made a terrible attempt at transcribing it.

Are there any good up-and-coming bands to pay attention to? The first album from Dead When I Found Her was great, but other than them I'm completely in the dark as far as emerging talent is concerned.

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
The next thing I'm going to post is going to be it's own thread here, but I'm inviting everyone who hasn't yet to listen to these 3 blogs I recorded before I go this time. They're long but they give everything I've been doing context and insight into what an obsessive freak I am with music and bands. Starting from why this has taken me five years, to Nothing NIN and Manson, Birthday Massacre and me losing my god drat mind as I buckle down to finish something here over the next week. If you have friends also into industrial and interested in the politics of it as well, please pass these around. The final blog I actually thought to put music behind so you don't hear only my boring voice yammering on.

blog3 http://www.youtube.com/user/mdpofficial?feature=mhum#p/u/2/MHr4eeoVCZY
blog4 http://www.youtube.com/user/mdpofficial?feature=mhum#p/u/1/ZprWrxq18dI
blog5 http://www.youtube.com/user/mdpofficial?feature=mhum#p/u/0/DVDM7w83zV4

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Pope Guilty posted:

What's the status on AH, anyway? Are they officially over?
He updated his Twitter/Facebook to say "Negotiations between lawyers is moving ahead, might actually be a future. Fingers crossed!"

boo_radley
Dec 30, 2005

Politeness costs nothing
heard a track by scrap.edx on last the other day and it's filling that "bleak apocalyptic soundscape" need. The guy also has a project called Carapace that so far reminds me a lot of post 242 bands like Speed Tribe or Male or Female.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 23 hours!
Serious question: Do I need new speakers, or is there way too much loving distortion in what's coming out these days? I was just sitting and listening to a bunch of promos from Promo Fabrik, and wumpscut and Skold's new albums, and it's like the artists decided that there needs to be an inch of wool between their music and the listener.

Edit: That's setting aside the buttrock-with-a-distortion-pedal bands stinking up Metropolis these days.

Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Jul 7, 2011

13Pandora13
Nov 5, 2008

I've got tiiits that swingle dangle dingle




Halloween Jack posted:

Serious question: Do I need new speakers, or is there way too much loving distortion in what's coming out these days? I was just sitting and listening to a bunch of promos from Promo Fabrik, and wumpscut and Skold's new albums, and it's like the artists decided that there needs to be an inch of wool between their music and the listener.

Edit: That's setting aside the buttrock-with-a-distortion-pedal bands stinking up Metropolis these days.

What Kind of headphones/speakers do you have? My Sennheiser earbuds have no problem with either of those albums and I have the bass on "I don't want to have any hearing left when I'm 60" levels.

spider_ross.avi
Jan 15, 2008

nnGUH

Halloween Jack posted:

Serious question: Do I need new speakers, or is there way too much loving distortion in what's coming out these days? I was just sitting and listening to a bunch of promos from Promo Fabrik, and wumpscut and Skold's new albums, and it's like the artists decided that there needs to be an inch of wool between their music and the listener.

Edit: That's setting aside the buttrock-with-a-distortion-pedal bands stinking up Metropolis these days.

Do you know the bitrate of the songs you're listening to?

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 23 hours!
Right now I'm using Sony MDR-V700s, and I don't bother with promos less than 192kbps.

I know I said "serious question," but I don't really think it's a hardware issue--these tracks and albums sound just as bad over the radio station soundboard. Over the past 10 years I've heard a bunch of groups who had some beats but ruined their tracks by distorting and mixing them into an indistinct blur--I guess they decided that if distorted vocals were good enough for Sascha and Johan van Roy, they could use it to hide the fact that they had nothing to show when it came to vocals or lyrics. It's only recently that it seems like an epidemic.

The thing is, I also notice this in veteran acts like 16volt and Tim Skold. Maybe it's just a byproduct of the decision to focus on industrial rock rather than their more dancefloor-friendly work.

a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



Just ordered a used copy of OOMPH!'s Ich bin du single for like 12 euros in good condition. Then I will have EVREYTHING by that drat band :cool:

Well, kind of. I'm not gonna touch the compilations unless I get them for dirt cheap (like max two euros a piece or something), they don't have anything I don't already have anyway.

No I'm not a fan at all :gay:

Zaiquiri
Mar 14, 2007

Halloween Jack posted:

Right now I'm using Sony MDR-V700s, and I don't bother with promos less than 192kbps.

I know I said "serious question," but I don't really think it's a hardware issue--these tracks and albums sound just as bad over the radio station soundboard. Over the past 10 years I've heard a bunch of groups who had some beats but ruined their tracks by distorting and mixing them into an indistinct blur--I guess they decided that if distorted vocals were good enough for Sascha and Johan van Roy, they could use it to hide the fact that they had nothing to show when it came to vocals or lyrics. It's only recently that it seems like an epidemic.

The thing is, I also notice this in veteran acts like 16volt and Tim Skold. Maybe it's just a byproduct of the decision to focus on industrial rock rather than their more dancefloor-friendly work.

Frankly it's also probably a consequence of these guys starting to get older and not putting as much effort into their vocals.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

What do you guys think of modern 16volt?

Full Black Habit hit some sweet-spot for me and I love the entire loving album. American Porn Songs mostly doesn't do it for me. I do really really like Blackbird though, not just because it recalls Thrill Kill Kult.

...and now I see there's a new album, Beating Dead Horses. Guess I'll check it out!

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Jose Mengelez
Sep 11, 2001

by Azathoth

Halloween Jack posted:

it's like the artists decided that there needs to be an inch of wool between their music and the listener.



wow, that's like 6 inches of wool in total.

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