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Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
Well, don't expect any fixes for at least a month. Most Opera employees are probably on vacation in July.

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er0k
Nov 21, 2002

i like ham.
The background tab thing is a known bug.

quote:

Highly annoying and definitely on our radar for bugs to prioritize for the next release.

Comfy Chairs
May 21, 2005

by Ralp

Meroin posted:

Why can't I rearrange tabs by dragging without putting them into a group with the adjacent tab? This has been a problem since my first 11.5 alphas. The rearranging ][ cursor that shows up between tabs has always been lovely.

Rearranging cursor? Not sure what that is, my cursor stays the same throughout. When dragging a tab the underlying tab will change colour when the dragged tab moves into the hot spot for creating a tab group. Just don't release the mouse button when that's the case? Keep dragging it until the tabs do their switchy thing and then release. The hot spot isn't that big. Until 11.5 it was hard enough to hit accidentally that I didn't realise tab groups existed.

Comfy Chairs
May 21, 2005

by Ralp
I just went to check my bank balance in 11.5 and noticed it popped up the "Save this password?" dialog when I logged in, which it never did before on banking sites. Curious to see what happened I clicked yes and logged out again. It seems Opera remembered both the username and password.

Isn't there an HTTP header or something that sites like banks use to tell browsers not to save passwords? It's not a change to the site, Firefox and Chrome don't offer to save it.

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope

MisterLizard posted:

I just went to check my bank balance in 11.5 and noticed it popped up the "Save this password?" dialog when I logged in, which it never did before on banking sites. Curious to see what happened I clicked yes and logged out again. It seems Opera remembered both the username and password.

Isn't there an HTTP header or something that sites like banks use to tell browsers not to save passwords? It's not a change to the site, Firefox and Chrome don't offer to save it.

You can add a autocomplete="off" to a <form> tag to request that the browser does not save the login details. Opera ignores it.

If you don't want Opera to remember the password, just click on "never for this site"

uncle wrinkles
May 27, 2006

WOW I AM A SHITTY POST COOL HUH
11.5 fixed the "'right-click > paste and go' in search toolbar directs contents of clipboard to URL toolbar instead" bug, so that's good. It also seems to have reduced the occurrence of the "completed request . . ." bug I was bitching about a page ago - took some schmucking around in preferences, but I managed to fix it somehow (wish I could remember how!).

However, 11.5 seems to have completely destroyed CTRL+F. Or maybe it's just me? Try searching for "month" in the last page of this thread. It'll completely ignore Wheany's post.

From what I can figure, it looks like CTRL-F just isn't scanning "deeply" enough - a search for "the" highlights all the "the"s in the breadcrumbs (The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Serious Hardware / Software Crap > The Opera Thread! Yeah, Opera can do that"), on both the top and bottom of the screen, but stuff nested too deeply (posts, the vBulletin copyright text) is just ignored.

Maybe there's a user:pref fix for this?

Meroin
Apr 23, 2008

MisterLizard posted:

Rearranging cursor? Not sure what that is, my cursor stays the same throughout. When dragging a tab the underlying tab will change colour when the dragged tab moves into the hot spot for creating a tab group. Just don't release the mouse button when that's the case? Keep dragging it until the tabs do their switchy thing and then release. The hot spot isn't that big. Until 11.5 it was hard enough to hit accidentally that I didn't realise tab groups existed.

When I drag a tab around, it doesn't follow my mouse cursor. It stays where it is, and while I'm dragging it, other tabs that I mouse over will turn gray or there will be a cursor-like image like the one shown here at the green arrow:



I took the "can't drag tabs" google search tab and dragged it to where the red arrow stops (beetween the first and second tabs). There's no graphical rearranging going on, and the cursor appears between the "windows panel" google search and the Opera Extensions website. When I release the mouse, the tab actually gets grouped with the Opera Extensions one. There's no way for me to move tabs without grouping them with another tab.

What I've figured out so far is that the problem doesn't exist when I have tab wrapping disabled (ie when all the tabs are squished on the same line). Currently I have it so that Appearance > Toolbars > Wrapping is set to "Wrap to Multiple Lines." It looks like maybe it's a known problem with no solution.

Mq
Jul 7, 2005
Lazy fat bastard
Is it generally safe to use Opera's built-in email client? It's pretty convenient but it seems to remember the passwords which slightly bothers me.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Mq posted:

Is it generally safe to use Opera's built-in email client? It's pretty convenient but it seems to remember the passwords which slightly bothers me.

It doesn't store your passwords unencrypted, if that's what you're worried about, but what do you expect? For it to ask for your email's password every time you open Opera?

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Tesseraction posted:

It doesn't store your passwords unencrypted, if that's what you're worried about, but what do you expect? For it to ask for your email's password every time you open Opera?

If you set a master password, you can make Opera ask for it every time.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

That probably would have been helpful for me to explicitly mention, yes.

thrawn86
May 26, 2006

Sure, I got a secret. More than one...

WiredStnkyPusyLuvr posted:

However, 11.5 seems to have completely destroyed CTRL+F. Or maybe it's just me? Try searching for "month" in the last page of this thread. It'll completely ignore Wheany's post.

I'm not seeing this.

Lakitu7
Jul 10, 2001

Watch for spinys
Me neither. It works fine for me.

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
Well, since this could also be one of those things, and I still have the problem myself after a year: Am I the only one whose Opera does not remember what links I have visited across sessions?

That is: I click a bunch of links on youtube or somewhere, they change color to let me know I've already visited them. I close the tabs of the links I just opened, but leave the tab for the original page. I quit and restart the browser. Now the links I just visited look like they're unvisited again.

Polygynous
Dec 13, 2006
welp

Wheany posted:

Well, since this could also be one of those things, and I still have the problem myself after a year: Am I the only one whose Opera does not remember what links I have visited across sessions?

That is: I click a bunch of links on youtube or somewhere, they change color to let me know I've already visited them. I close the tabs of the links I just opened, but leave the tab for the original page. I quit and restart the browser. Now the links I just visited look like they're unvisited again.

Pretty sure it does that for everybody. If I remember right they said it was a security issue somehow. It would be nice if they could work around it some other way if that's the case.

hey mom its 420
May 12, 2007

A lot of the times the pages in my history are pretty arbitrary. I know I've visited some but they just don't show up in the history page. Has been like this for a while though.

Comfy Chairs
May 21, 2005

by Ralp

Wheany posted:

You can add a autocomplete="off" to a <form> tag to request that the browser does not save the login details. Opera ignores it.

If you don't want Opera to remember the password, just click on "never for this site"

I was certain that Opera respected the autocomplete attribute in versions prior to 11.50, but it may just have been that I'd told it to never remember the password some time in the distant past. 11.50 was the first clean install for ages so maybe I'd just gotten used to not seeing it. It seems the attribute is going to be standardised in HTML5 so I imagine Opera will have to support it eventually.

Bonus posted:

A lot of the times the pages in my history are pretty arbitrary. I know I've visited some but they just don't show up in the history page. Has been like this for a while though.

This has been annoying me for some time too. It's really irritating to type a phrase into the address bar and see the drop-down list filled with entries I bookmarked 3 years ago but not the matching page I visited 30 minutes ago. It's not just an Opera thing, Chrome seems to be equally useless at recalling things from history.

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
Well yes, that too. Opera does seem to return a bit random results in the autocomplete. It feels like it has a special fondness for any pages that returned a 404.

BitcoinRockefeller
May 11, 2003

God gave me my money.

Hair Elf

WiredStnkyPusyLuvr posted:


However, 11.5 seems to have completely destroyed CTRL+F. Or maybe it's just me? Try searching for "month" in the last page of this thread. It'll completely ignore Wheany's post.


I have this same problem, I can't find any words between the banner ads. The stuff at the very top and bottom of the page is all I can search.

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




YouTube stop working for anyone else?

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

Steve Moore posted:

YouTube stop working for anyone else?

Still good on my end, although I had a recent snafu that needed a Flash update. Tried that yet?

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
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That seems to have fixed it, thanks.

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
God loving damnit, has Opera started to respect autocomplete=off in form fields?

Why the gently caress do I even have the form tab filled in the preferences?

longview
Dec 25, 2006

heh.
Is there a way to disable the "Opera Turbo can't connect" toast? It comes up a lot when my 2G internet connection is slow, and it's pretty annoying.

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys
College Slice
Say, is there any Opera wizardry that would make a Speed Dial button open three different pages? Like if when I want some porn Business News I always want Asian Business News, Senior Business News, and Fisting Business News. Right now I need to occupy three Speed Dial entries with all three of my business news websites and click them all. Could I batch them and get all my business news in a tidy package?

Polygynous
Dec 13, 2006
welp
You could always save a session with those sites open. It's under "Tabs and Windows".

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys
College Slice
But if I save a session and then open that session, wouldn't it wipe out the other 20+ tabs I have open that aren't related to Business News? Or would opening a saved session be additive to what's already open.

And then I'd ask if you can cram a session into a Speed Dial entry.

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




I'm running Gmail Notifier, and when I right-click and View Inbox, Opera has started crashing immediately. Reopening after crash works fine. This started since moving to 11.50. Anyone else in this boat?

Resident Idiot
May 11, 2007

Maxine13
Grimey Drawer

Ape Agitator posted:

But if I save a session and then open that session, wouldn't it wipe out the other 20+ tabs I have open that aren't related to Business News? Or would opening a saved session be additive to what's already open.

It'd open a new window with your saved session, in addition to your other one with the 20+ tabs.

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys
College Slice
Maybe that wouldn't be so bad. Never been a multiwindower but I'll try it out for size.

Edit: I think you're probably right that saving it as a session works solidly enough to be what I'll use. Thanks!

Ape Agitator fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Jul 7, 2011

uXs
May 3, 2005

Mark it zero!
Opera is soooooooo amazingly lovely with proxy servers that require authentication. And it gets worse with every release, it's like they do it on purpose. The only reason I haven't switched completely to FF at work is because I haven't found a fast-forward plugin yet.

Daerc
Sep 23, 2007

Look! A door! This must mean something!
So I've been having an issue with the search bar since the 11.50 update. It's now defaulting to the Google search for whatever I'm searching for as being the highlighted option, thus hitting down once sends the search to Bing (or whatever search gets put as the second if I have something else there). I wouldn't mind this if that was what I wanted to do, but frequently I don't know the exact spelling of what I want to search for, so I roughly put it into the search bar and I normally hit down and get what I want.



Is there any way to get this back to the old behavior of hitting down once in the above example would put it on news and hitting it twice would put it on newsweek?

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
I'm migrating my Windows install to an SSD, and in the process I'm cleaning poo poo up on my Windows partition. So I ran Ccleaner.

My question is, what the hell do these settings and button even do?

WTF, Opera?

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
Yes, my Opera cache was loving 35 Gigabytes.

Mayne
Mar 22, 2008

To crooked eyes truth may wear a wry face.
Does anyone know what the hell could cause clicking an image to open a new Speed Dial tab instead? It just randomly started happening in Opera only.
Happens when i click any image or try to zoom in on big images and it's been pissing me off. If i restart Opera it goes away for few minutes.
Even pressing Reply/Edit on this post opened a new tab, i had to right click -> Open in new tab and then it worked.

E: fixed it, extension called Find Matching Images was the problem.

Mayne fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Jul 14, 2011

flappin fish
Jul 4, 2005

Daerc posted:

Is there any way to get this back to the old behavior of hitting down once in the above example would put it on news and hitting it twice would put it on newsweek?

I always do searches from the address bar, and if you search from the address bar using the search engine keyword ("g search terms" instead of just "search terms"), the down arrow will behave like you want. Not sure how to fix searches from the search box, however.

Polsy
Mar 23, 2007

Wheany posted:

My question is, what the hell do these settings and button even do?

WTF, Opera?


I have no idea about the memory cache but in my experience the disk cache will grow infinitely until you quit the browser at which point it'll clean it up down to the configured size (even when Empty on exit is unticked, presumably that cleans it up entirely), or if the browser crashes it'll do that on startup.

Not sure whether or not that answers your question, depends if you actually had Opera running at the time (and if not, then I really don't know)

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
No, I did not have Opera running at the time. And I explicitly emptied the cache before running CCleaner

WoG
Jul 13, 2004

Ape Agitator posted:

Say, is there any Opera wizardry that would make a Speed Dial button open three different pages? Like if when I want some porn Business News I always want Asian Business News, Senior Business News, and Fisting Business News. Right now I need to occupy three Speed Dial entries with all three of my business news websites and click them all. Could I batch them and get all my business news in a tidy package?
Make a page saved locally that spawns two popups then redirects to the third site, and point the speed dial to that?

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Thauros
Jan 29, 2003

I primarily use Firefox but keep current versions of all four major PC browsers on my computer. Opera came in handy this morning since it was surprisingly the only one of the 4 that worked with the US Federal government's FAFSA application.

https://fafsa.ed.gov/FAFSA/app/errors?page=incompatibleBrowser

They really need to update their list to be compatible with the current versions of FF, Chrome and IE.

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