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I don't know who told Ian O'Connor he was the next Roger Angell, but I want to punch them.
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CC Sabathia just threw a complete game shutout. His last 4 starts: 31.2 IP, 22 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 6 BB, 42 K. Seems like a good time to remind everyone what a retarded piece of poo poo Mike Lupica is!! 
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Jul 10, 2011 20:30
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We could quite seriously devote an entire thread just to the tales of Mike Lupica's legendary assholishness.
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zakharov posted:I don't know who told Ian O'Connor he was the next Roger Angell, but I want to punch them.
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Crazy Ted posted:We could quite seriously devote an entire thread just to the tales of Mike Lupica's legendary assholishness. And it still probably wouldn't be enough. At least Mitch Albom has done some likable things, and for gently caress's sake he's working in Detroit. Lupica is just the worst of the worst of the worst.
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Captain Charisma posted:CC Sabathia just threw a complete game shutout. His last 4 starts: 31.2 IP, 22 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 6 BB, 42 K. That's so stupid. CC and Johan were like comparing apples and oranges at that point. It looks like he was just pissed that Johan turned down the Yankees, which is some sort of mortal sin.
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Jul 11, 2011 16:12
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Johan didn't turn down the Yankees, the Twins decided they preferred the Humber/Gomez package 
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zakharov posted:Johan didn't turn down the Yankees, the Twins decided they preferred the Humber/Gomez package Stil lthe point being YANKEES DESERVE ALL HALL OF FAME PLAYERS HOW DARE THEY NOT GET (INSERT X PLAYER HERE)!!!!!
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Jul 11, 2011 16:49
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Yeah Lupica sucks no argument here
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Bigass Moth posted:That's so stupid. CC and Johan were like comparing apples and oranges at that point. It looks like he was just pissed that Johan turned down the Yankees, which is some sort of mortal sin. The column in question was actually about Brian Cashman being so wrong and stupid rescinding the Santana offer because Johan is so much better than CC, who he predicted would be decent enough BUT NO JOHAN.
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Wow, Daulerio. I'm not going to say this is a great idea, but it's certainly an interesting one.
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morestuff posted:Wow, Daulerio. I'm not going to say this is a great idea, but it's certainly an interesting one. I laughed pretty hard, so he has that going for him. I hope he paid Craggs good money to watch that fiasco.
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Jul 11, 2011 21:09
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He might have done better if he weren't using the retarded gesture pitching mode
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For his next trick he should pound a bunch of Natty Light and try to recreate Boomer's perfect game during the hangover.
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morestuff posted:Wow, Daulerio. I'm not going to say this is a great idea, but it's certainly an interesting one. You would think if you were going to do this that you would be good at the game, or at least practice beforehand. You know, so that the people that have to sit there and watch you don't make comments about how you suck and should have practiced. mikeraskol fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Jul 11, 2011 |
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hcreight posted:For his next trick he should pound a bunch of Natty Light and try to recreate Boomer's perfect game during the hangover. Or as I like to call it, Sunday.
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Mike Barnicle had his first piece go up on Grantland today. Who is Mike Barnicle? Let's go to The Big Lead and find out.The Big Lead posted:Mike Barnicle was a prominent columnist for the Boston Globe from 1974 to 1998. He was a distinctive, trusted voice throughout New England until multiple scandals forced his resignation. Journalism has two cardinal rules: don’t make poo poo up and don’t plagiarize. Mike Barnicle did both. Yep, Barnicle is somebody who made stuff up, like a column about two families bonding in a hospital, and somebody who rips off jokes and quotes. He lost his job because of it. Why does this matter? Let's go to Deadspin. Tom Socca posted:"Now it's all on these things, computers." What an uncannily dialogue-like bit of dialogue, there. Terry Francona is known for being a good talker, but Mike Barnicle is known for stuff too. Such as not worrying too much about the relationship between the words people say and the words he decides to write. Not to mention other direct quotes, like "It works pretty well, the numbers stuff." Or the wildly inaccurate numbers he uses in the story. Socca/Deadspin are offering $500 for a recording of Francona actually saying these lines. I'm curious, too. Could it be -horror of horrors - that somebody who's made poo poo up in the past made poo poo up again?
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Plagiarism or not, the most questionable thing about that article is:quote:The season, longest of all the majors and quite exhausting, is a bit like dating a nymphomaniac; it demands daily performance. Also, there is no way that Mike Barnicle is not a made up name, LET'S SEE THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE, "BARNICLE"
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I hate three things about this. One, that story was nowhere near as good as it could have/should have been. Two, that struck me, too, as a bunch of "imagined" quotes. Three, god dammit Deadspin stop loving caring so much, you petty bitches.
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zakharov posted:Johan didn't turn down the Yankees, the Twins decided they preferred the Humber/Gomez package ...and in the end, that package ended up being better (i.e. not injured to death). Especially considering what they got for the players in return. Why didn't we trade for Lester/just keep Santana  Oh right Bill Smith 
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I once took a tech support call from Barnicle regarding a malfunctioning Mac G4 Cube in 2000. He was easy to work with. Because he was not the usual bitchy, entitled jackpipe we usually got on the phone, I didn't ask him, "So, how's the plagiarism and making-poo poo-up game these days?"
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BackInTheUSSR posted:I hate three things about this. I hate Daulerio and a lot of the bullshit he stirs up, but Mike Barnicle deserves every bit of nit-picking he gets. It's a pretty damning statement about the journalism industry that he managed to fail upwards after the Boston Globe stuff.
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He deserves it but this is a textbook example of "A broken clock is right twice a day"
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Whatever he's done in the past, Barnicle is a good tv guy and a calm, reasonable voice in an era of hyperbole. There's no point in him responding to deadspin, because that will just set a precedent. They know that too, and when he doesn't indulge them they'll claim victory but honestly they just look petty.
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BackInTheUSSR posted:Three, god dammit Deadspin stop loving caring so much, you petty bitches. Besides, it's not like Grantland didn't set the tone for this and establish the standard of the discussion. It was pitched with a lot of aspirational rhetoric about being a haven for high-quality longform journalism, promoting and mainstreaming the most lauded form of sports journalism for the online world. Simmons took off his Daniel LaRusso helmet and said, "I'm Bill Simmons, and I'm here to rescue you! I'm here with Malcolm Gladwell!" Okay, but if you're going to bill yourself as a repository for that kind of high-quality product, people are going to take you at your word and hold you to it. At worst, Scocca's accepted their standards and said, "You are not meeting them," by pointing out that they had a shameful first week of basic errors that went unacknowledged and were "disappeared" without citation, and now they've moved on to meeting their journalistic bona fides by hiring a guy who repeatedly committed the most fundamental sin in journalism. If Grantland had been billed as a vanity project for a waterheaded cultural critic with a luddite homer streak, featuring an all-star cast of navel-gazing narcissists, a corporate boardroom junk-science pimp and some forgettable TV-talk Tumblr bimbo, nobody would have given a poo poo. But they made their bed, and now other journalists — many more than just the Deadspin staff — are now making sure they lie in it. Or maybe they're all just  ing real hard because the "u mad? idiot fucker bitch" button is glowing on their PCs.
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Ace Jameson posted:Whatever he's done in the past, Barnicle is a good tv guy and a calm, reasonable voice in an era of hyperbole. There's no point in him responding to deadspin, because that will just set a precedent. They know that too, and when he doesn't indulge them they'll claim victory but honestly they just look petty. I have just about the complete opposite view of Barnicle's current incarnation as a MSNBC talking head. I think his smug, faux-"common man" schtick, his lack of insight into anything beyond the blandest conventional wisdom and his general boorishness is symptomatic of just about the worst elements of the mainstream political press. That said, gently caress Deadspin.
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The only problem I had with the Deadspin article is that their accusations were pretty baseless. They basically cherry-picked a folksy sounding quote and said that it sounded fake, then tried to legitimize their claim by offering a cash prize. Grantland probably shouldn't have thrown him work, but Simmons fetishizes that old Boston Globe sports section and I'm sure he's the one that brought him in.
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BITCH I SELL CAINE posted:This is probably the most persistent and reductive response to internet crit — "you're just caremad" or "you're just jealous" — and I really don't get it. Deadspin covers sports media, especially online sports media. It's also in the business of talking about popular things of interest to the readership. Like it or not, Grantland's easily the biggest online sports media story of the year, and it's helmed by an insanely popular dude. Of course Deadspin's going to talk about it; we all are, too. What else should they do? Something that's not their job? More dick pix, obviously. The fact is that Deadspin can do no right as long as Daulerio is running the show, because anything they write is tainted with his long history of being an unethical hack (and a smug rear end in a top hat about it to boot).
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Mornacale posted:The fact is that Deadspin can do no right as long as Daulerio is running the show, because anything they write is tainted with his long history of being an unethical hack (and a smug rear end in a top hat about it to boot). Pigeonholing Deadspin as solely a sports journalism site is silly for the reasons you stated, but thinking of it as basically a rumor-mongering dick factory is equally mistaken. In the last year, they published leaked financial reports from an NBA team and a handful of MLB teams, showing how ownership buries profits, cooks the books for tax breaks and manipulates the discussion with fans and with cities — to say nothing of other MLB teams, in terms of revenue sharing — to falsely claim greater financial burdens than actually exist. Those were really sharp pieces of work that contributed enormously to the ownership/fan dialogue. Both were written during Daulerio's stewardship.
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Deadspin has a lot of salacious junk because salacious junk gets you pageviews. Pageviews mean you can charge more for ad space plus it's factored into the pay of the writers. More pageviews = get paid more. I don't like Deadspin's normal content at all (I'm not the demo anyway so they don't care), but those pageviews they get from the junk are also how they get people to leak them financials/etc.
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BITCH I SELL CAINE posted:That's just silly... I meant that Deadspin is going to get a bunch of criticism no matter what it does, because of the rep that Daulerio has built it.
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Mornacale posted:I meant that Deadspin is going to get a bunch of criticism no matter what it does, because of the rep that Daulerio has built it.
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Stop bitching about Deadspin and read this: http://www.gq.com/sports/profiles/201107/jerry-joseph-scandal-hs-basketball Guarantee it's the best thing you read all week.
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:Stop bitching about Deadspin and read this: http://www.gq.com/sports/profiles/201107/jerry-joseph-scandal-hs-basketball Thanks for the link. The author was presented with a fascinating story and nailed it, great read.
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Here's to You, Ryan Howardquote:ON THE DAY AFTER the All-Star Game was played in Phoenix without Ryan Howard, this column is directed at the haters and bashers who have been coming out of the woodwork in larger numbers than usual. stuart scott fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Jul 13, 2011 |
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quote:In the words of Edwin Starr at Woodstock: "WAR, what is it good for? Absolutely nothin.' [Hunh!]" Whoa, nobody's made THAT joke before!
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He has a point about WAR, which is like 1.something. You're telling me Howard is only good for 1 more win than Ross Gload would be?
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McCutchen not an All-Star ... not yetquote:McCutchen is first at his position in walks, but that barely deserves more than the cliché “good eye, kid” acknowledgment. I don't know why, but for some reason I thought we had mostly gotten past all of the "Hur hur look at those NERDS with their NUMBERS in their moms' basements!"
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As if the sports part of the article wasn't bad enough,Edwin Starr didn't even loving play at Woodstock. He didn't record War until almost a year afterward. This is clearly the biggest problem with that piece.
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