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It would probably make for a stronger LP to use every character, even the one everyone hates. You know the one. Yeah, even him. 
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Cloud and Barret, and whoever the hell you want for the rest of the game. No one separates the original AVALANCHE bros
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Jul 14, 2011 06:16
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Captain Bravo posted:The next character's has a tier 3 limit which hits 15 times, whereas Barret and the last character we'll get both have a limit that can hit 18 times. This means team multi-hit has the ability to dish out the most possible damage from three single moves. However, due to that thing you mentioned, the next character we'll be getting is almost necessary to do any serious endgame statgain farming, and isn't really all that bad anyway. Son of a bitch! I forgot about that chainsaw! At least it's reliable, once he has limit. Forever. Until he dies. Which shouldn't happen. EDIT: Wait you mean the cheeser. COME ON DO YOU PEOPLE SERIOUSLY CONSIDER USING THE INSTANT WIN LIMIT BREAK? Especially thanks to the the Square trick, it's so broken, you're not even playing a game, it's practically slot machine in slomo! Xaiter fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Jul 14, 2011 |
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Jul 14, 2011 06:19
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Xaiter posted:EDIT: Wait you mean the cheeser. COME ON DO YOU PEOPLE SERIOUSLY CONSIDER USING THE INSTANT WIN LIMIT BREAK? Especially thanks to the the Square trick, it's so broken, you're not even playing a game, it's practically slot machine in slomo! No, he meant the Conformer for statgain farming. Gotta love damage formula bugs.
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Jul 14, 2011 06:26
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dancingbears posted:It would probably make for a stronger LP to use every character, even the one everyone hates. No, never use him ever. Ever.
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Jul 14, 2011 06:34
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Whatever you decide, don't use Barret on the boat, so you can show what he does in the town afterward. Also the next character has great unique dialogue so use her a lot for plot sections.
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Jul 14, 2011 06:34
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Elentor posted:Look, I'm no expert in holding guns, but there's something very wrong with this image here. Paging TFR Skaw posted:Not a TFR poster but.. I thought about commenting on that first image with "trigger discipline" but I was more amused by the cosplayer using a toy replica of the Robocop pistol in the second image. The point shooting thing is something I've never heard of before though, that's quite interesting. MGlBlaze posted:It's why I love Tifa's limit-break chain so much. She can piledrive/suplex/whatever-it-is ANYTHING. It looks rediculous and it's always funny to see her pick up these massive dangerous things while they just hold absolutely still while she smashes their skulls against the ground. As I'm sure most people here know, monks have a history of doing that in this series.
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Jul 14, 2011 06:49
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Xaiter posted:Wait, really? I thought Yuffie's multi-hit limit hit only 8-10 times and Barret's Ungarmax hit like 16 times. By end game, number of hits is really the only thing that matters. Yuffie has the best limit break in the game; thanks to it being Tier 3 rather than 4, it charges faster than Cloud's and Cid's, and Barrett's best limit break hits more but for considerably less damage overall. Her ultimate weapon is probably the most useful in the game, and being a ranged character is always a great bonus. A party of Cloud and the two spoiled characters above is pretty much the best party in the game power-wise. And IMO, the best party dialogue-wise as well. Having played through the game with all the characters, I now always default to this party when it becomes available.
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Jul 14, 2011 06:50
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For the purposes of story flow, I always preferred using Tifa as one of the characters. Extremely vague spoiler: It felt like it made some later scenes make more sense and have more weight and credibility if she'd been sticking close to him the whole time.
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Jul 14, 2011 07:18
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How about Yuffie and Cait Sith? Huh? Am I right, guys? :iamafag:
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Jul 14, 2011 07:26
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Yuffie, Cait Sith, and Vincent. For maximum Goon Rage.
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Jul 14, 2011 08:00
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dancingbears posted:It would probably make for a stronger LP to use every character, even the one everyone hates. This. But for the immediate future - Cloud, Red and Aeris, then replace Aeris with the next character. We haven't really seen much of Red yet.
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Jul 14, 2011 09:15
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Lance Streetman posted:Yuffie, Cait Sith, and Vincent. For maximum Goon Rage. I dunno, seems like people don't really mind Yuffie, given all the people saying to use her. I'm surprised, I like Yuffie but I'm used to people telling me I'm crazy for that.. Anyway, voting for Yuffie and Tifa or Barret.
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Jul 14, 2011 09:22
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Personally, I'd like to see whoever will destroy bosses in the most embarrassing fashion when it comes to the videos.
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Jul 14, 2011 09:23
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I always missed Yuffie when playing as a kid. I had no idea how to get her.
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Jul 14, 2011 10:49
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Cannot Find Server posted:and Barrett's best limit break hits more but for considerably less damage overall. I don't know who told you this, but it's wrong. Even if you were, for some retarded reason, min/maxing limit damage without hitting the attack cap on your characters, spoilered's attack hits 15 times for 5/8 damage, and Barret's hits 18 times for 1/2 damage. That's a whole 3/8 of an attack more damage, and since you're obviously not hitting for 9999's (Because if you were, then the 18-hit is going to easily trump damage) then Barret loses out on maybe 2-3k.
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Jul 14, 2011 10:51
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Noreaus posted:I always missed Yuffie when playing as a kid. I had no idea how to get her. To be fair it isn't exactly intuitive from what I remember. If you don't have a guide that outright tells you how to find her, you pretty much just have to get lucky.
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Jul 14, 2011 10:55
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MGlBlaze posted:To be fair it isn't exactly intuitive from what I remember. If you don't have a guide that outright tells you how to find her, you pretty much just have to get lucky. Indeed. When I was younger I was lucky and got her without too much trouble. I bought the game again this year for my psp and was rather annoyed when I found out that what I thought was a set event was actually governed by RNG. Believe it or not, I had, until then, always gotten into a fight with her on my first time stepping inside a forest. Death Priest fucked around with this message at 11:18 on Jul 14, 2011 |
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Jul 14, 2011 11:12
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Gonna have to say Barret and Yuffie, who, despite the fact that I do not like the character type she represents, isn't actually all that bad. Then switch her out with Cid the very instant he's available.
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Jul 14, 2011 12:11
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MGlBlaze posted:To be fair it isn't exactly intuitive from what I remember. If you don't have a guide that outright tells you how to find her, you pretty much just have to get lucky.
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Jul 14, 2011 12:26
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U.T. Raptor posted:Finding her isn't that difficult(you have to go through the area she appears in), but the right dialog options to recruit her could be. I thought she could be found in any forest in the world. Just that the game conveniently places you practically in front of one and it's stupid not to go looking for her in there.
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Jul 14, 2011 12:34
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:I thought she could be found in any forest in the world. Just that the game conveniently places you practically in front of one and it's stupid not to go looking for her in there. I'm pretty sure she can only be found in certain forests, and even then some of them have ridiculously low chances.
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Jul 14, 2011 12:41
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:I thought she could be found in any forest in the world. Just that the game conveniently places you practically in front of one and it's stupid not to go looking for her in there. I waited to get her in my initial equipment game so I could get to Wutai with little trouble and buy a ton of those combat items then get her so the whole part would be simple. It was simple. I really don't have much to say about character selection since at this point they really aren't that different in battle, except for Barret having some long-range weapons.
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Jul 14, 2011 12:41
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Bang-up job so far, Elentor. Cloud, Tifa, and Aeris until she leaves, at which point put in Cid. Actually, you could swap Tifa out for Yuffie too at some point; the C/T/[A,C] party is what I used for most of my playthroughs of the game, and while I enjoyed it I feel like I should be encouraging more variety. I guess what I'm trying to say is 'use whatever (but not Cait Sith, gently caress him)'. Also is there any chance we'll get a gif of Cid running around as the map avatar? It is the goofiest drat thing and the four people following this who have not seen it really should.
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Jul 14, 2011 12:54
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Geez, no love for Vincent? Gotta be Cloud (w/ Long Range), Barret, and Vincent when you get to that point in the game for ultimate ranged fun. And if you could swap out Cloud, I'd totally have thrown Yuffie in there.
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Jul 14, 2011 13:09
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Guys, I said "next update", not "in 120 pages".
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Jul 14, 2011 13:12
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Elentor posted:Guys, I said "next update", not "in 120 pages". Seriously. I started getting confused, thinking I missed out on some way to get some characters early.
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Jul 14, 2011 13:28
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Use a GameShark and make a party of three Cait Siths.
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Jul 14, 2011 14:33
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Why are we spoilering character names? You learn their names when you get to name them, and at that point the player can be 100% sure that he's a party member.
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Jul 14, 2011 15:33
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:Why are we spoilering character names? You learn their names when you get to name them, and at that point the player can be 100% sure that he's a party member. Plus they're all in the manual.
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Jul 14, 2011 15:45
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Captain Bravo posted:I don't know who told you this, but it's wrong. Even if you were, for some retarded reason, min/maxing limit damage without hitting the attack cap on your characters, spoilered's attack hits 15 times for 5/8 damage, and Barret's hits 18 times for 1/2 damage. That's a whole 3/8 of an attack more damage, and since you're obviously not hitting for 9999's (Because if you were, then the 18-hit is going to easily trump damage) then Barret loses out on maybe 2-3k.
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Jul 14, 2011 16:10
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Mega64 posted:Use a GameShark and make a party of three Cait Siths. This is an idea I can get behind (it's easier to slit their throat if they don't see you coming)
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Jul 14, 2011 16:18
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Captain Bravo posted:I don't know who told you this, but it's wrong. Even if you were, for some retarded reason, min/maxing limit damage without hitting the attack cap on your characters, spoilered's attack hits 15 times for 5/8 damage, and Barret's hits 18 times for 1/2 damage. That's a whole 3/8 of an attack more damage, and since you're obviously not hitting for 9999's (Because if you were, then the 18-hit is going to easily trump damage) then Barret loses out on maybe 2-3k. It might not be considerably less damage, but that IS less damage. And considering you're not going to be hitting 9999 with a half-damage attack unless you've jacked your stats through the roof with sources (in which case, nothing in the game is a challenge anyway), that means he does lag behind in overall damage. Plus the other character is considerably faster than him, and will do more damage simply from getting more turns.
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Jul 14, 2011 17:06
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I just caught up with the thread (reading as much as I can for a week). I'm voting for the next character in the party as well, but keep the pimp cloud going with all girls. Also, great lp so far elentor, I'm really enjoying it. Did they release FFVII on iOS like they did FFIII? Id love to play this on my iPad!
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Jul 14, 2011 20:34
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Schwartzcough posted:It might not be considerably less damage, but that IS less damage. And considering you're not going to be hitting 9999 with a half-damage attack unless you've jacked your stats through the roof with sources (in which case, nothing in the game is a challenge anyway), that means he does lag behind in overall damage. Plus the other character is considerably faster than him, and will do more damage simply from getting more turns. But, if I remember correctly, Barret's attack looks cooler.
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Jul 14, 2011 21:03
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The game breaking tricks and attention to characters and dialogue in this thread has kept me really entertained. It's been a while since I played this game, and looking at this LP it makes me feel there's a ton of details I missed. For your party, just use whoever breaks the game in the most hilarious fashion.
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Jul 14, 2011 21:35
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Aeris and Tifa
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Jul 14, 2011 21:57
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Balanced party. Aeris for magic, either Barret or Tifa for smashy. I can't remember if Red XIII gravitates more toward physical or magic, or whether he's mixed.
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Jul 14, 2011 22:42
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Schwartzcough posted:It might not be considerably less damage, but that IS less damage. And considering you're not going to be hitting 9999 with a half-damage attack unless you've jacked your stats through the roof with sources (in which case, nothing in the game is a challenge anyway), that means he does lag behind in overall damage. Plus the other character is considerably faster than him, and will do more damage simply from getting more turns. Once again, incorrect! Most of the final weapons have a special thing which will boost their attack. New person's final weapon is mostly concerned around it's special (And amazing) gimmick, so it doesn't have that great damage scaling. Barret's final weapon increases attack with the amount of AP on the weapon. This makes Barret one of only two characters who can actually deal so much damage with his final weapon that he can break the game. Even if you don't sperg out with Mastered materia, with the stuff you'd have available at endgame you can easily top out Barret's limit without having to do any source grinding. Although, this doesn't counter your second point, that by this point nothing in the game is a challenge. But seriously, it's FFVII. Look at all the myriad ways the game is being broken this early on. It's harder not to bend the game completely over your knee by the endgame.
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Phoenix Taichou posted:Balanced party. Aeris for magic, either Barret or Tifa for smashy. I can't remember if Red XIII gravitates more toward physical or magic, or whether he's mixed. Red's an all-rounder (he's even got weapons that attack from the back row in case you want him to be a dedicated spellcaster), but he's not that great in battle thanks to his weak Limits.
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