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MassRayPer posted:That is the one PPV that would strive for a C-, but in the end it is just so loving Russo. Sid/Goldberg is blown off in a 5 minute I Quit match, there are way too many tournament matches and Benoit/Hart isn't close to the level it was on free TV a month earlier. It started well then the nWo came out.
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The final Nitro set is so incredibly ugly... and then they even used it for all the PPVs too. Is there an actual reason for this, like not enough money in the budget to assemble and break down the big set with the moving logo and video wall?
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Astro7x posted:The final Nitro set is so incredibly ugly... and then they even used it for all the PPVs too. Is there an actual reason for this, like not enough money in the budget to assemble and break down the big set with the moving logo and video wall? I always loved the big C. It was extravagant, it injured wrestlers, it made run ins near impossible with the sliding monitors but god drat did it look awesome. It could even kick the poo poo out of the Big Smackdown Fist. It was just so badass. It should have been WCW Worlds Heavyweight Champion.
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Astro7x posted:The final Nitro set is so incredibly ugly... and then they even used it for all the PPVs too. Is there an actual reason for this, like not enough money in the budget to assemble and break down the big set with the moving logo and video wall?
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Akileese posted:I think I read in the of wcw that the crappy cheap set was related to money issues. I really need to read that again. Yeah, they blew like half the year's budget on the design and construction of the "moving C" set, with the idea that the re-branding would draw in new viewers, and they still had to pay guys like Sting and Goldberg. Timby fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Jul 15, 2011 |
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Timby posted:Yeah, they blew like half the year's budget on the design and construction of the "moving C" set, with the idea that the re-branding would draw in new viewers, and they still had to pay guys like Sting and Goldberg. While the new set was from 1999 and not 2000, it is important to remember that WCW's total payroll was about 1/3 that of the total 68 Million Dollars the company lost in 2000. WCW's ability to waste money on sets, locatons, wrecking cars, celebrities, gimmick matches and everything else will never have a peer.
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Lamuella posted:I really hope you missed a decimal point there. Didn't miss a decimal point.
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My fondest memory of WCW as it neared death was how lovely the production became. The final Nitro set looks like a poor man's version of the 1997 RAW set, the production truck would always play the wrong theme song or miss cues for canned video, and just all sorts of other minor gaffes.
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triplexpac posted:Didn't miss a decimal point. Missed a joke, though
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I never followed WCW...does anyone have pictures of the set's your talking about? GIS turns some up but I have know idea which one is from which period...
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I may have mentioned this elsewhere in the thread, but speaking of production, I love the Thunder episode where they aired a replay of the SHOCKING SWERVE finish of a Sting/Villanos match at the beginning of the show when the match took place at the end. I don't think they ever actually had a guy whose job it was to pay attention to poo poo like that. And yet they gave millions to Master P, Dennis Rodman, KISS and Chad Brock. EDIT: There was also a Nitro where Mike Awesome was taken away in an ambulance after a post-match beating...and then showed up in the next scene carrying a coffin around backstage, looking fine. Pope Corky the IX fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Jul 16, 2011 |
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blunt posted:I never followed WCW...does anyone have pictures of the set's your talking about? GIS turns some up but I have know idea which one is from which period... They started using it on the April 10th, 2000 Nitro where Russo stripped all the titles from everybody 
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I may have mentioned this elsewhere in the thread, but speaking of production, I love the Thunder episode where they aired a replay of the SHOCKING SWERVE finish of a Sting/Villanos match at the beginning of the show when the match took place at the end. This is one of the things I miss about Nitro and Thunder and pretty much all of WCW. There was no quality control. There was no continuity. No one was accountable for anything, and once it was apparent that it was beyond saving it almost made the show watchable again. That thing with Tank Abbott holding a knife to a prone opponent's neck is still amazing to me. "I'm gonna attack him with a weapon after the match, okay?" "Huh? Yeah, sure sure. Whatever, Tank." Obviously the bloat and the gently caress-ups reduced the business in the eyes of anyone with half a brain, and it died much later than it should of. You shouldn't watch a wrestling show because of how funny it is to watch them suck so amazingly bad, especially if you care about the business one bit. But it's fun to reminisce on it, and it was pretty goddamn funny. God, Lex Luger hosed up more than a couple taped promos. How do you let that happen? e: Whether I watch wrestling or not I still go through those old Observer quotes about once a year. If you wrote a TV comedy about a wrestling promotion and worked half of those amazing stories into it, someone would say "Don't you think you should dial it back a bit? Who's gonna believe that?". It should be required reading for anyone who wants to get into production or editing. DangerDummy! fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Jul 16, 2011 |
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Astro7x posted:They started using it on the April 10th, 2000 Nitro where Russo stripped all the titles from everybody That's a pretty dull set, but it doesn't seem dangerous
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blunt posted:That's a pretty dull set, but it doesn't seem dangerous No, that's the very last one. The dangerous one, and me too dumb to post pictures, was a massive version of the wCw logo with the giant C. It slid open and the wrestlers exited from the middle. The dangerous part came because the middle was, of course, a giant C that was the floor of the ramp. What was it made of? Slick metal!
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Were they trying for a replica of the Raw Titan tron with that?
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Minges posted:No, that's the very last one. The dangerous one, and me too dumb to post pictures, was a massive version of the wCw logo with the giant C. It slid open and the wrestlers exited from the middle. The dangerous part came because the middle was, of course, a giant C that was the floor of the ramp. What was it made of? Slick metal! This was the only image I could find of it: 
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going back to heenans commentary in wcw, i'll never forget this moment. schiavone just saying something ridiculous about hacksaw and brain just cracking the gently caress up for the whole match. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afNOqwJrT8s
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Maybe this one is a little bit better
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Astro7x posted:Maybe this one is a little bit better Holy poo poo that's ugly.
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PoO3 posted:going back to heenans commentary in wcw, i'll never forget this moment.
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blunt posted:Holy poo poo that's ugly. You could say that it looks like something a bird left on the hood of my car...
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So, which was the ramp that Juvi kept falling on his rear end on? (Don't blame the meth).
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I posted:So, which was the ramp that Juvi kept falling on his rear end on? It was the one with the giant C as I recall. He kept getting over excited running out and slipping on his arse if I remember rightly.
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I posted:So, which was the ramp that Juvi kept falling on his rear end on? Blame the Juvi Juice. He fell a lot, but SO many people ate it on that giant C.
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Minges posted:Blame the Juvi Juice. Ya but did they get high on pcp and run around naked in a hotel and punch a cop?
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I almost forgot that at the end of WCW, they made Juvi into a parody of The Rock.
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1st AD posted:I almost forgot that at the end of WCW, they made Juvi into a parody of The Rock. I'll never forget the Juvi Juice promo he cut in XPW. "You don't like me? SO SUCK MY DICK!" "This is not a Juicy crowd tonight."
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1st AD posted:I almost forgot that at the end of WCW, they made Juvi into a parody of The Rock. "The Juice has come back to (city)" I can't believe he actually said that regularly.
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Lone Rogue posted:I'll never forget the Juvi Juice promo he cut in XPW. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFqrppW9N0c
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Lone Rogue posted:I'm pretty sure the gimmick was Juvi's idea because he did it after leaving WCW. He must have thought, "gently caress, I'm more talented than the Rock! All he does is says a bunch of catch phrases! I can do that too!" and then went out and created... The Juice. It always sounded like he was saying "I am de jewz"
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Juventud owns bones and I wish they caught his ecstasy hotel freak out on tape
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You know, sometimes I dream of working for WCW at it's peak... as Lanny Poffo, getting paid over $200,000/ year to stay at home and do nothing.
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I posted:You know, sometimes I dream of working for WCW at it's peak... as Lanny Poffo, getting paid over $200,000/ year to stay at home and do nothing. He truly was a genius.
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I'm surprised Mean Gene didn't charge $1.95 a minute to enter the "Who will trip on the giant C tonight?" pool every Monday.
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I posted:You know, sometimes I dream of working for WCW at it's peak... as Lanny Poffo, getting paid over $200,000/ year to stay at home and do nothing. And if you ever do want to go anywhere, free air travel!
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I actually loved that very last Nitro set, just because it was so basic. Raw was in the process of adding more and more bits to their set, so I liked the stripped down Nitro version.
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I just watched Benoit/Raven from souled out. Man that's an odd match. On one hand there is a lot of Raven and Benoit kicking rear end. But on the other hand there are some brutal chair spots that make me cringe. It's so odd watching Raven go from a main event star in ECW to a midcard goon in WCW. I guess it is like watching Daniel Bryan in WWE. 
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