The Order of the Stick: T-Rex, Troll Sex and Will Checks

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rocketrobot: Jul 11, 2003

DrakePegasus posted:

As someone who's never had the luxury of playing 3.5, is this accurate? If so, I think I've switched my choice of class for my first melee character.

Monk/Cleric is seriously under rated (just like Monk/Fighter). Too item dependent, I guess.

# ? Jul 16, 2011 17:14

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# ? May 15, 2024 08:42

inthesto: May 12, 2010; Pro is an amazing name!

DrakePegasus posted:

As someone who's never had the luxury of playing 3.5, is this accurate? If so, I think I've switched my choice of class for my first melee character.

Barbarians are better than fighters, yes, but this comic obviously exaggerates it for dramatic effect. At the end of the day, both classes are "I do a full power attack".

If you want an interesting and good melee, play a fighter/wizard. It's intimidating and it really sucks levels 2-6, but it can really pay off.

# ? Jul 16, 2011 17:20

Cabbit: Jul 19, 2001; _{Is that everything you have?}

Along similar lines, for thematic fun go Sorcerer 4/Fighter 2, grab one of the feats that un-fucks metamagic casting for Sorcerers, the Smiting Spell metamagic feat, and then pretend you're Green Arrow.

# ? Jul 16, 2011 17:29

Brannock: Feb 9, 2006; by exmarx; Fallen Rib

Spellswords were always my favorite prestige class for a reason, even if they sucked mechanically.

# ? Jul 16, 2011 18:06

Cuchulain: May 15, 2007; My tiny godly CoX shall burn forever!

The best melee is a Rogue/Fighter/Monk/Pious Templar with the Vow of Poverty. Smack everything to death without wearing a shirt, using any gear or failing any saving throws. It's not very powerful, but it's pretty hilarious.

I am curious to how this is going to move along the plot in any way. V's getting his rear end kicked, Roy's getting his rear end kicked, and Elan is outrunning his impending rear end kicking. I'm guessing maybe they'll have to ask Tarquin for help?

# ? Jul 17, 2011 03:50

Cliff Racer: Mar 24, 2007; by Lowtax

Or Nale could be working with whats his name, the rogue. Or Haley's family know of him. Or any number of other things. Who knows.

# ? Jul 17, 2011 04:07

Nilbop: Jun 5, 2004; Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...

Cuchulain posted:

I hope things will start moving in this arc, finally.

The author has been out with illness or work in the intervening weeks, this is hardly fair comment at all.

# ? Jul 17, 2011 06:14

Red_Mage: Jul 23, 2007; I SHOULD BE FUCKING PERMABANNED BUT IN THE MEANTIME ASK ME ABOUT MY FAILED KICKSTARTER AND RUNNING OFF WITH THE MONEY

terminal mehmet posted:

Monk/Cleric is seriously under rated (just like Monk/Fighter). Too item dependent, I guess.

Thats because the best hybrid Monk Cleric is a Cleric 20 with a buttload of exalted/complete champion feats.

That being said the most awesome monk build was Monk1/Sorceror bunches. Punch spells through fists all day every day.

# ? Jul 17, 2011 07:26

Pope Guilty: Nov 6, 2006; The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Nilbop posted:

The author has been out with illness or work in the intervening weeks, this is hardly fair comment at all.

I'm going to be perhaps too generous and say that this could be taken not as "goddamn publish more strips already" but as "the ratio of plot movement to strips has been slow lately".

Probably too generous.

# ? Jul 17, 2011 07:43

Cuchulain: May 15, 2007; My tiny godly CoX shall burn forever!

Pope Guilty posted:

I'm going to be perhaps too generous and say that this could be taken not as "goddamn publish more strips already" but as "the ratio of plot movement to strips has been slow lately".

Probably too generous.

Plot to strips. I have Crohn's Disease so I'm not a big jerk about Rich not updating. But holy poo poo this whole desert bit has been a loving glacially paced.

# ? Jul 17, 2011 08:12

ZeeToo: Feb 20, 2008; I'm a kitty!

Red_Mage posted:

Thats because the best hybrid Monk Cleric is a Cleric 20 with a buttload of exalted/complete champion feats.

That being said the most awesome monk build was Monk1/Sorceror bunches. Punch spells through fists all day every day.

Monk 2/Sorcerer.

Drop fireballs at your own feet all day every day. Explain you like personal space.

# ? Jul 17, 2011 08:55

Poil: Mar 17, 2007

"I cast fireball centered on myself!"

Anyway, as long as you (and the rest of the group) are having fun it doesn't really matter what class you play. :shobon:

# ? Jul 17, 2011 09:34

DrakePegasus: Jan 30, 2009; It was Plundersaurus Rex's dream to be the greatest pirate dragon ever.

Thanks for the input, everyone! A lot of these ideas sound fun. Still think I'll give Barbarian a shot, though.

Back to the source of this discussion: I really doubt Roy'll croak it, after having a whole book devoted to bringing him back. My money's on another glory-stealing Deus ex Machina.

# ? Jul 17, 2011 13:21

MikeJF: Dec 20, 2003

DrakePegasus posted:

Back to the source of this discussion: I really doubt Roy'll croak it, after having a whole book devoted to bringing him back. My money's on another glory-stealing Deus ex Machina.

Or if he does croak it, it'll be an ironic one strip between death and resurrection, if not on the same page.

# ? Jul 17, 2011 13:31

rocketrobot: Jul 11, 2003

ZeeToo posted:

Monk 2/Sorcerer.

Drop fireballs at your own feet all day every day. Explain you like personal space.

I was always a big fan of firing fireballs at the monk after they ran ahead of everyone. This was fun until my spell level started to catch up with his saving throws. Then he got a little mad.

This entire conversation could be an OotS strip.

# ? Jul 17, 2011 14:08

Donraj: May 7, 2007; by Ralp

terminal mehmet posted:

I was always a big fan of firing fireballs at the monk after they ran ahead of everyone. This was fun until my spell level started to catch up with his saving throws. Then he got a little mad.

This entire conversation could be an OotS strip.

Pretty sure they already did that one.

# ? Jul 17, 2011 14:50

Eifert Posting: Apr 1, 2007; Most of the time he catches it every time.; Grimey Drawer

Either way I hope this is the last major LG arc. The only good one was the Cliffport/Azure City one

# ? Jul 17, 2011 21:18

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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Cuchulain posted:

Plot to strips. I have Crohn's Disease so I'm not a big jerk about Rich not updating. But holy poo poo this whole desert bit has been a loving glacially paced.

I'm willing to put up with anything that gives me more Tarquin, because Tarquin is the best villain in OOTS.

# ? Jul 17, 2011 21:26

HKR: Jan 13, 2006; there is no universe where duke nukem would not be a trans ally

People who think this arc is glacially paced are reading it from the perspective of having about one comic a week to one comic a month. Try reading the beginning of this chapter to the current spot in one sitting and you'll find the pace has been fine.

# ? Jul 17, 2011 22:52

navyjack: Jul 15, 2006

ConfusedUs posted:

I'm willing to put up with anything that gives me more Tarquin, because Tarquin is the best villain in OOTS.

You will live and be rewarded.

# ? Jul 17, 2011 23:03

Humanoid Female: Mar 13, 2008

ConfusedUs posted:

I'm willing to put up with anything that gives me more Tarquin, because Tarquin is the best villain in ~~OOTS~~ anything ever.

# ? Jul 17, 2011 23:30

Cabbit: Jul 19, 2001; _{Is that everything you have?}

Red_Mage posted:

Thats because the best hybrid Monk Cleric is a Cleric 20 with a buttload of exalted/complete champion feats.

That being said the most awesome monk build was Monk1/Sorceror bunches. Punch spells through fists all day every day.

I keep wanting to put together a Monk/Sorcerer for an Eberron campaign, but talk about your MAD. Kalashtar Monk/some sort of psionic class is a good substitute, though.

# ? Jul 17, 2011 23:48

Eifert Posting: Apr 1, 2007; Most of the time he catches it every time.; Grimey Drawer

All Tarquin is is a Byronic (an)tagonist.

Fortunately Byronic anythings are awesome.

# ? Jul 18, 2011 06:46

Danzou: Oct 24, 2010; by angerbot

For anybody reading from early in the thread wondering whether the Erfworld guy really is that creepy, the main Erfworld page is now advertising for something called the The Geeky Kink Event

Yeah.

# ? Jul 18, 2011 11:27

Vicissitude: Jan 26, 2004; You ever do the chicken dance at a wake? That really bothers people.

Red_Mage posted:

That being said the most awesome monk build was Monk1/Sorceror bunches. Punch spells through fists all day every day.

# ? Jul 18, 2011 12:13

Cabbit: Jul 19, 2001; _{Is that everything you have?}

Vicissitude posted:

And thus the secret origins of Mr. Huge were revealed to the world.

# ? Jul 18, 2011 15:24

AriadneThread: Feb 17, 2011; The Devil sounds like smoke and honey. We cannot move. It is too beautiful.

Edit: Bwuh, how did I post in this thread instead of the generic webcomics one?

# ? Jul 18, 2011 15:38

LightWarden: Mar 18, 2007; Lander county's safe as heaven,
despite all the strife and boilin',
Tin Star,
Oh how she's an icon of the eastern west,
But now the time has come to end our song,
of the Tin Star, the Tin Star!

Vicissitude posted:

There are actually Sorcerer and Wizard builds in 4e that explicitly gain big boosts to the damage of their spells by having high strength modifiers. The sorcerer builds can even use Strength instead of Dexterity for their AC, because why the hell not?

# ? Jul 18, 2011 22:52

Soonmot: Dec 19, 2002; Entrapta fucking loves robots; Grimey Drawer

Just going to show how much 4E owns!

# ? Jul 18, 2011 23:21

Speedball: Apr 15, 2008

Huh, you know, I never really hated Thog as a villain until this arc. His comedic sociopathy has gotten decidedly less comedic.

Come on, Roy, kick his rear end!

# ? Jul 18, 2011 23:27

Strudel Man: May 19, 2003; ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

Speedball posted:

Huh, you know, I never really hated Thog as a villain until this arc. His comedic sociopathy has gotten decidedly less comedic.

Come on, Roy, kick his rear end!

Maybe you missed where Roy broke his tusk?

Guy deserves whatever happens to him after that.

# ? Jul 18, 2011 23:32

FredMSloniker: Jan 2, 2008; Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

Speedball posted:

Huh, you know, I never really hated Thog as a villain until this arc. His comedic sociopathy has gotten decidedly less comedic.

# ? Jul 18, 2011 23:42

Cliff Racer: Mar 24, 2007; by Lowtax

Speedball posted:

Huh, you know, I never really hated Thog as a villain until this arc. His comedic sociopathy has gotten decidedly less comedic.

Come on, Roy, kick his rear end!

Huh? He hasn't even onscreen killed anyone. Or did you fall for Roy's big, dumb speech?

# ? Jul 18, 2011 23:44

ImpAtom: May 24, 2007

Cliff Racer posted:

Huh? He hasn't even onscreen killed anyone. Or did you fall for Roy's big, dumb speech?

Uh, pretty sure he murdered one of the guardian faeries the very first time he showed up, all the while thinking about puppies and ice cream and while she was screaming for him to stop.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0051.html

Yep.

# ? Jul 18, 2011 23:51

Cliff Racer: Mar 24, 2007; by Lowtax

I meant this arc. All of his killing has been done back when he was "enjoyable."

# ? Jul 19, 2011 00:03

SlimGoodbody: Oct 20, 2003

Cliff Racer posted:

I meant this arc. All of his killing has been done back when he was "enjoyable."

Didn't he also talk about how he killed a whole town full of people or something at the beginning of his match with Roy?

# ? Jul 19, 2011 00:23

Nilbop: Jun 5, 2004; Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...

The point with Thog is once you get past his fearsome exterior you see a mantle of cuddly naivety. But under this cuddly mantle is a core of pure loving psycho rear end in a top hat.

Stop defending Thog, he needs to be gone and Roy needs to kill him.

# ? Jul 19, 2011 00:26