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Pneub posted:I always forget that Raven was 7ft, and that Hogan and Goldberg were 7ft4
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1st AD posted:As bad as the Nitro/Thunder games were, they were at least charming in an arcadey kind of way. Mayhem and Backstage Assault were the worst things I've ever seen. Mayhem was kind of cool in that it had a PPV code thing, but the problem was that the roster was incomplete and a ton of dudes were fleeing to the WWF, so there weren't more than 2 events that actually used it. Also it was one of the first games I can remember with a shitload of commentary, but the game was so bad it was hard to notice. To be fair, when Mayhem came out it was actually a pretty decent game. It's just aged horribly. I'd say the same thing about WWF Warzone/Attitude. I rented Backstage Assault when it came out, and actually thought I had rented an unfinished game. I thought I had somehow ended up with a beta version EA had accidentally sent to the rental place. MassRayPer posted:I could explain that but then I would have to explain why Hulk Hogan was on fire. I love that intro, because it was like a Japanese interpretation of American wrestling. Loud senseless music, big trucks, and things on fire.
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The thing that stood out the most to me in Backstage Assault was inferno matches. Not only was the object to throw your opponent into a burning trash can/burn them with a flaming 2x4, they stayed burning after the match. So having two girls in those matches was especially dark, and I was wonder why the poo poo they thought that was a good idea in any manner. I never did any silly renaming in Revenge or No Mercy, I must not have been playing the right way. I was always OCD about trying to keep everyone costumes up to date though, changing them every single RAW and Smackdown.
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Magic_Ceiling_Fan posted:To be fair, when Mayhem came out it was actually a pretty decent game. It's just aged horribly. I'd say the same thing about WWF Warzone/Attitude It was less decent and more, "Everyone still played it". WWF Attitude is good for one thing: Custom entrance themes. BIOHAZARD
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I was really excited for Mayhem. FINALLY, a wrestling game made by the BEST sports game company on the planet! How could this fail?!
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El Duke posted:we should probably get Scotsman in here to review WCW Thunder. Thunder? I don't know what you're talking about. Now, SCOTSMAN REVIEW WCW friend of the family, I know what that means.
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I gave up holding out hope for a WCW Thunder review years ago, but I'm pretty sure Scotsman promised to review TNA iMPACT! more recently...
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Flameingblack posted:I never did any silly renaming in Revenge or No Mercy, I must not have been playing the right way. I was always OCD about trying to keep everyone costumes up to date though, changing them every single RAW and Smackdown. I am still flabbergasted that no company has simply taken the mechanics of No Mercy/Revenge and just slapped modern graphics and updated movesets on it. It has the best finisher system to date, the simplest and most intuitive grappling system, and the KO feature. Its the best, and i still play it once or twice a year.
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Flameingblack posted:
Haha, I do the exact opposite. Right now everyone in SvR2011 has pink tights/trunks because it's Pride Week in the WWE.
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Jul 20, 2011 16:37
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My favorite but was when you put the boston the crab in someone occasionally it would flip the person around and make it look like he was trying to violate them.
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Jul 20, 2011 16:38
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WoodrowSkillson posted:I am still flabbergasted that no company has simply taken the mechanics of No Mercy/Revenge and just slapped modern graphics and updated movesets on it. It has the best finisher system to date, the simplest and most intuitive grappling system, and the KO feature. Its the best, and i still play it once or twice a year. Ever play Def Jam Vendetta? It uses the AKI engine, and is a pretty decent Wrestling game for the PS2/Gamecube era. The engine still holds up, but the roster makes it unplayable. triplexpac posted:Raven did a lot better than Hardcore Hak. Lance Storm did pretty well though... didn't he have 4 titles at one point? US, Cruiserweight, Hardcore, and... TV title? Or was that sometime after Scott Hall threw it in the trash and Jim Duggen found it?
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WoodrowSkillson posted:I am still flabbergasted that no company has simply taken the mechanics of No Mercy/Revenge and just slapped modern graphics and updated movesets on it. It has the best finisher system to date, the simplest and most intuitive grappling system, and the KO feature. Its the best, and i still play it once or twice a year. Its owned by that company and they use it for rap fighting games.
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The only thing I didn't like about the N64 games was that if your guy's finisher was a submission move instead of being able to just apply it you would have to grapple and do a powerbomb and then the finisher. It's really nitpicky but dammit if I'm Chris Jericho I just wanna put people in the Liontamer while they're on the ground.
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Astro7x posted:Ever play Def Jam Vendetta? It uses the AKI engine, and is a pretty decent Wrestling game for the PS2/Gamecube era. The engine still holds up, but the roster makes it unplayable. You are so wrong. Any game that allows you to use L'il Kim to beat the everliving poo poo out of Henry Rollins is the opposite of unplayable. I'm dying for another one of these, and not that Def Jam Icon horseshit.
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Karmine posted:The only thing I didn't like about the N64 games was that if your guy's finisher was a submission move instead of being able to just apply it you would have to grapple and do a powerbomb and then the finisher. I am almost positive you could. That might have been an improvement between games
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Jul 20, 2011 16:51
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Liontamer was a regular move so instead of only being able to use it when your Special meter is blinking, you can lock it at any time. This allowed for false finishes but also still injured the leg. I can't entirely remember but there might have also been a special leg hold slot, but even if there was, all leg submissions were available at any time. It's just in the front grapple they gave you the option to do "X into Y" specials and people tended to use that every time they wanted to use the finishing move. If you wanted to beat a guy with a submission, it was usually best to try your submission once while the guy makes it to the ropes to soften him up.
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The best thing about Revenge is many of the wrestler alternate costumes would be basically their skin color. Many a title was won by "Naked Goldberg". Also I always named Ming Chee "baby huey" and made the color scheme on his outfit look like a diaper. Ok I lied...the REAL best thing is stealing your opponents taunts. Raven dancing like Alex Wright or Disco Inferno...priceless!
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WoodrowSkillson posted:I am still flabbergasted that no company has simply taken the mechanics of No Mercy/Revenge and just slapped modern graphics and updated movesets on it. It has the best finisher system to date, the simplest and most intuitive grappling system, and the KO feature. Its the best, and i still play it once or twice a year. I'm pretty sure the old Gamcecube WWF games have that system. Wrestlemania x8-19 and Day of Reckoning 1/2. I need to get to the local rummage market to see if I can find them, X8 has a pretty sweet roster and I loved being Scott Hall. What was everyone's favorite wrestler or team in Revenge? I went with Saturn and Scott Hall for singles and as a team together.
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THQ going to Yukes and dumping AKI was bad enough, but them having an actually good engine for DOR 1 & 2 and then not using it again might be even worse. The SVR games are finally decent now, but it wasn't worth 10 years of mostly bad Smackdown/SVR titles to get there when AKI could have been making them the entire time.
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DrewFoundGlory posted:The best thing about Revenge is many of the wrestler alternate costumes would be basically their skin color. Many a title was won by "Naked Goldberg". Also I always named Ming Chee "baby huey" and made the color scheme on his outfit look like a diaper. Priceless was playing DDP against Booker T, with a run-in by Benoit, dumping Booker to the outside, followed by stereo DDP taunts. That poo poo rocked.
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Taking control of managers on Revenge was also a neat little secret.
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Golden Bee posted:Why is the hardcore champion a black guy I've never heard of? This is loving awesome.
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Lone Rogue posted:Liontamer was a regular move so instead of only being able to use it when your Special meter is blinking, you can lock it at any time. This allowed for false finishes but also still injured the leg. I can't entirely remember but there might have also been a special leg hold slot, but even if there was, all leg submissions were available at any time. it was like that in Revenge and Wrestlemania 2000, but by No Mercy, there was just straight up specials for essentially every grapple/non striking slot. For example there was a special grapple from the apron to the ring, a special facing up leg submission, a special rear suplex with oppenent on the turnbuckle slot. The only thing there wasn't specials for were running grapples. Jericho's front grapple special in No Mercy was the triple powerbomb that maybe pinned as well. There were a few moves I really missed from Wrestlemania 2000, essentially the counter from when your opponent has a rear grapple. They'd release german suplex you and you'd roll back, turn back and sprint toward the opponent and do your running strike. It looked hilarious with pretty much everyone.
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Revenge had a bunch of reversals & moves that weren't in the other games as well. They had that wacky ninja combo thing that certain guys could do, I remember that one for sure.
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triplexpac posted:Revenge had a bunch of reversals & moves that weren't in the other games as well. They had that wacky ninja combo thing that certain guys could do, I remember that one for sure. The striking/MMA character settings are the primary reason I still prefer VPW2 to No Mercy, dammit.
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triplexpac posted:Revenge had a bunch of reversals & moves that weren't in the other games as well. They had that wacky ninja combo thing that certain guys could do, I remember that one for sure. This is why Virtual Pro Wrestling 2 is the best of both worlds. Plus Baba body.
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The American Dream posted:
Every answer is wrong unless it's AKI/THQ man.
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Gavok posted:Then we reached the fictional characters based on Japanese wrestlers and decided to start making things up. AKI Man = Pepsi Man And then the alternate outfits were Coca Cola Boy, Dr. Pepper and SURGE!
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Going back to WCW discussion, WWE Classic on Demand preview of the NWO with panel composed of Kevin Nash, JJ Dillion, Jim Ross, and Michael P.S. (Piece of poo poo) Hayes with Mean Gene as the moderator. Unsurprisingly like the other panels, Michael Hayes doesn't shut the gently caress up about things he was never involved in and interrupts everyone. gently caress him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7CM82u_hT0
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Lone Rogue posted:It was less decent and more, "Everyone still played it". 500 pound, blue skinned fat women doing hurricanranas made that the funniest game released on the n64
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My favorite silly name edit was changing Giant's singlet brown in Revenge and naming him "Poop Giant"
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Dschingis Khan posted:My favorite silly name edit was changing Giant's singlet brown in Revenge and naming him "Poop Giant" Mine was altering Too Cool and Rikishi's other costumes into other wrestlers, so you could make anyone do the dance. My fav was Bikertaker, Kane, and Paul Bearer
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How can you say Hayes wasn't involved? Dok Hendrix was on the frontline of the war!
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He was on the hotline at minimum.
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I can't hate Michael Hayes interrupting poo poo. Especially since his interruptions during the "Best Canadian Wrestlers" thing were completely fair. Pat Patterson was the one being an idiot.
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I think it was on 'No Mercy' that if you changed the wrestler's main costume/appearance then when they appeared in the intro they kept that appearance. Changing everyone who appeared in the intro to a large, fat black man provided hours of amusement.
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I always wondered... was Sting injured in 1996 which is why he never wrestled and just did run ins during his crow persona transformation? Or was that intentionally done to build the epic build up to Starrcade against Hogan?
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Astro7x posted:I always wondered... was Sting injured in 1996 which is why he never wrestled and just did run ins during his crow persona transformation? Or was that intentionally done to build the epic build up to Starrcade against Hogan? Intentionally done
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People say Eric had one good idea, but holding off Sting & Hogan was really well done. It showed patience you don't see anymore. Not sure how much of that was him, but since he was in charge at the time I assume he could have made the match happen whenever he wanted.
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